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  1. If these are your top three that need to step up, we are much better off than anybody thinks. Miranda - I can agree with Lopez - probably 10th on the "step up" list Jeffers - was mitigated by the Vazquez signing, not even on the "step up" list Mahle, Maeda, Kepler, Buxton, Polanco all deserve a place on this list ahead of the three you mentioned (except possibly Miranda, who would be in the mix somewhere)
  2. I have no insider information here, nor am I looking to pass judgement. So many decisions in our society today are based off of perception. Facts and truth seem to take a lesser role. Not even charged, he has been decimated in the court of public opinion. The Dodgers and MLB itself were hosed the moment this became debated in public. Guilty or not, public perception found him guilty right away. From a baseball standpoint, there is no reason to release him. From a PR standpoint, Bauer was/is hotter than the Sun. MLB had to suspend him regardless of what they though internally. If the rumors of him being a clubhouse cancer are true, fine. That I get. In an example like Colin Kapernick, his ability does not outweigh the negative attention he will bring to the team. That may or may not be the case here.
  3. Let's look at something different today... Lets run under the assumption that Trevor Bauer is going to be released by the Dodgers (based on their spending habits this winter, it looks highly likely). Should the Twins take a flyer on him? He is only 31 Would not require player capital to get Would probably slide into the 2/3 spot pretty easily Minnesota would be the type of place he could work on rehabilitating his image, outside of the large market scrutiny. Personally I think the Twins should take a REAL hard look at him. Would require a ton of PR stuff (think Josh Hamilton and Michael Vick) from both the player and the team, but it could be doable. What do you think? Save the vitriol for your FO rants, give me viable reasons why they should or shouldn't take a look.
  4. Even rebuilding teams need veteran leadership. Gray is also reasonably priced, no need to move him just yet. I hope everyone sees that this "rebuilding" team that you are describing is pretty close to what we have.
  5. You all are a bunch of wimps... -11 degrees with -35 degree windchill? Come talk to me when it is -30/-50. I didn't even zip up my coat... There is a reason rich people are rich. It doesn't happen by throwing money out the window. That is why it is such big deal when one decides to make it rain.
  6. I agree with your assessments, though Escobar has a team friendly contract, brings intangible values, and lifts the bench floor. He would be a fit here.
  7. Apologies... I feel appropriately chastised.
  8. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/twins-designate-mark-contreras-for-assignment.html View full rumor
  9. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/12/twins-designate-mark-contreras-for-assignment.html
  10. I posted this elsewhere and am posting it here as well. Taken from a Buster Olney paywall article: Early in the offseason, the Twins made it clear they wanted Correa back, and according to industry sources, they offered $285 million over 10 years. When you factor in state taxes and the length of the proposals, rival evaluators note that Correa is actually making markedly less annually in his deal with the Mets than he would've gotten with the Twins, let alone the Giants. But Correa has always been a big-stage personality, someone who gravitates toward the brightest lights -- in this case, Cohen's lights, in New York. Correa's final decision was not about money.
  11. Buster Olney doing the dirty work... I am going to pull a quote from his paywall article today: Early in the offseason, the Twins made it clear they wanted Correa back, and according to industry sources, they offered $285 million over 10 years. When you factor in state taxes and the length of the proposals, rival evaluators note that Correa is actually making markedly less annually in his deal with the Mets than he would've gotten with the Twins, let alone the Giants. But Correa has always been a big-stage personality, someone who gravitates toward the brightest lights -- in this case, Cohen's lights, in New York. I have said this in other places. Correa's final decision was not about money.
  12. Don't be so sure they didn't. Could be that the term and dollars that were offered were capped there for a reason, be it insurability or otherwise.
  13. Wait... You mean we can't blame the FO anymore? Doggone it. What are we going to talk about NOW?
  14. Here is another question for debate: If the Mets happen to fail him (which I 99% doubt), should the Twins still sign him? Even at their last offer? That would be two teams to pass on him physically.
  15. Maybe nobody. Maybe it was tactical. Maybe they made decent runs at 5-6 guys and none of them panned out. We don't know. Stop looking to blame because you don't like the tack they took.
  16. Ok... First of all, people need to stop throwing numbers around like monopoly. Nobody here has skin in the game. You are talking about 10-20-35 million dollars like it is nothing. Like it or not, baseball is a business. The Twins are a business. This ownership group has acted this way for years, they make no bones about it. To continue to complain about it is asinine. Come talk to me when you are willing to front $35 million of your own money. The Twins knew what their number was on Correa, they weren't willing to move on it. As fans, just accept it and move on. Second, everybody needs to stop talking about direct correlation. A does not lead to B. It was not Vazquez/Gallo or Correa. The signings/situations were totally independent of each other. If you think signing Correa would have stopped this team that had 1 catcher on the 40 man roster from signing Vazquez, you are wrong. Same with Gallo. Everybody is mad because the Twins had basically two routes they could go. Spend tons of money on FA or see what the young guys bring to the table. Personally I was hoping it would be closer to spending, but they chose option B. Everybody that has been complaining about not giving the younger guys the chance... now you are getting your wish. Deal with it.
  17. Actually it's not skimping, that is sound business. You do you your cost/benefit analysis and figure out how much you are willing to pay. Once you reach your threshold, that's it. The Giants offer was insanely high. The Mets offer was insanely high when you factor in the luxury tax. If the Mets weren't crazy, what are the chances Correa would be a Twin right now with their offer? Probably pretty good.
  18. This article feels like trolling... Assumptions everywhere that the Twins did nothing and watched the world go by while praying to the church of Correa. Salary was not the ultimate hurdle in Correa going to the Mets. He went to the Mets to play in a bigger market with more revenue opportunities and to play on a team that has a very strong chance to win for years to come. Nowhere has there been any comments made that even if the Twins had matched the insane Giants offer, that he would choose MN. The same can be said about his deal with the Mets. We seriously need to stop putting the lack of Correa coming here squarely on the shoulders of the FO. Sure, the FO decisions may be part of it, but stop this "failure" blame game.
  19. I have been wondering about Trevor Bauer lately... I wonder how players look at him and what the behind-the-scenes POV is as well.
  20. Amazing how RD comments still show up almost 40 years later... considering how strong he was in NY, this one was very disappointing.
  21. Many proclamations of doom have been made over the last few weeks regarding the moves the Twins have made (or lack thereof). What to expect out of players or teams. Personally, hearing the same drum beat over and over is getting a little tiresome. Let's change things up a bit. I am calling out all prognosticators: what have you been wrong about? What move did you rail and rail on that ended up going the other way? Did somebody you wholeheartedly praise totally fall apart? Everybody here is willing to shout their opinions from the mountaintop. Are you just as willing to admit you were wrong? Here is your chance to confess your sins and fess up... Me: I was convinced the Berrios trade would come back to kill us. So far, not so much. Same with the Garver trade. As always, be respectful
  22. An argument can be made they will get that back and more with a healthy roster. There is still plenty of time to make some moves, but it is looking more and more like they will stand with what they have and make a go at it. I am probably more positive than most. With a healthy team as constructed, .500 is reasonable. If Maeda, Mahle exceed and a couple of the kids jump out, this could be a playoff team. (If Buxton decides to stay healthy for 125 games, who knows...)
  23. It is one thing to give them a chance, it is another thing to put all of the weight on their shoulders. IF they are healthy and IF they make the roster, they will play. Gordon and Miranda both showed that last year. There may be 100 reasons why they don't play, but they will need to take advantage of the opportunities when they happen.
  24. By long time veteran you mean an elite defensive OF who has solid experience playing all 3 OF positions? Umm... sure. Before you respond: He is an elite defensive OF. He should play more CF then he already has, but he has spent a lot of time on the corners as well. He also has 90+ games at 1B and 3B. The guy is a defensive stud. Now you can argue semantics, but there is a definite possibility that he is Buxton's insurance policy. Doesn't matter if you agree, it is a possibility. His other positional flexibility fits right into what the Twins look for as well.
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