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    5th Starter Candidate: Mike Pelfrey


    Seth Stohs
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    Last week I looked at the Minnesota Twins’ centerfield position and provided several options for what could happen in spring training. One other position that will be up for grabs in spring training is the fifth starter role. Unless there is an injury, we know that Phil Hughes, Ervin Santana, Kyle Gibson and Ricky Nolasco will be in the rotation on Opening Day. However, there are several candidates for the fifth starter job and we’ll take a look at them over the next week, starting with Mike Pelfrey.

    The Background

    Pelfrey is a big, 6-7, 250 pound right-hander. He was the Mets first round draft pick (ninth overall) in the 2005 draft out of Wichita State. The Scott Boras client came to the Twins before the 2013 season on a one-year contract. He had undergone Tommy John surgery in April of 2012 but reports indicated that he would be ready for Opening Day 2013.

    Was he ready? Was he healthy? Either way, the numbers were just not good in 2013. He made 29 starts and pitched 152.2 innings, but he went 5-13 with a 5.19 ERA and a 1.55 WHIP.

    For whatever reason, that performance turned into a two-year extension with the Twins last offseason. Unfortunately, it was another rough season for the veteran. He went 0-3 with a 7.99 ERA and a 1.99 WHIP in five starts before being shut down. He clearly wasn’t healthy as he walked 6.8 per nine in that time.

    At Twins Fest, he told a handful of writers, “I feel bad, like I’ve taken money from the Twins. It’s been frustrating. You play this game to play, and compete, and be successful and do it well. Obviously that hasn’t happened.”

    He spent the entire 2014 season rehabbing. Recently he said, “Rehab kind of stinks, but we got through it. I felt good. I think if the season had gone maybe another week, I probably could have pitched, maybe out of the bullpen or something just to do it.”

    The 31-year-old says that he “got a little extra shoulder program that was more maintenance, strengthening stuff.”

    For the first time since 2007, he says, Pelfrey will have to compete for a starting job in spring training. Back then, it really wasn’t a competition. “It was El Duque (Orlando Hernandez) or me, and if he was healthy, it was him.”

    The Mets handed Pelfrey the job when Hernandez was injured.

    Pelfrey is excited to get spring training and this competition underway. “It’s the first time in a while I have to go in and win a job. I have no one to blame but myself. Staying healthy and not performing… That’s on me.”

    The Hope

    Though he has never been front-end starter, he has a couple of years that were very solid.

    In 2008, he went 13-11 with a 3.72 ERA and a 1.36 WHIP in 200.2 innings. In 2010, he went 15-9 with a 3.66 ERA and a 1.38 WHIP in 204 innings.

    Those aren’t great, elite numbers by any means, but if a 2015 Mike Pelfrey can reach 200 innings with a sub-four ERA, Twins fans should be thrilled. That would be terrific for a fifth starter.

    The Alternative

    Pelfrey understands that there is some quality competition for the fifth starter job.

    “There are some young guys with very good arms. Tommy Milone has a pretty good track record too.”

    So what if Pelfrey loses the competition for the fifth starter job. Would he be willing to go to the bullpen? “Ultimately, I probably wouldn’t have a choice.”

    However, he would embrace it. He understands that it would be an adjustment as he has never really done it before. However, he would see it as another challenge, one he would be up for. “It’s still the same game, it’s pitching.”

    However, he isn’t going to go into spring training thinking about a job in the bullpen. “This is the best I’ve felt since before Tommy John surgery. I’m ready to go in and win a job!”

    Pelfrey Percentage

    So, if I were to venture a guess for the chances that Mike Pelfrey begins the season as the Twins fifth starter job, it isn’t a simple "No" as many may think. Now healthy, he deserves the opportunity to compete for the position. However, despite being owed $5.5 million for 2015, I would put the odds at only about 20%.


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    As far as his pedigree is concerned, he was the 9th overall pick in 2005 and was BA's 20th ranked player in 2007

    I hesitate to interrupt the genital hijinks to get back to the topic, but I must.  :)  The pedigree also needs to include seasons at age 24 and 26 where he pitched 200+ innings with better than league-average ERA.  That represents a valuable property; being league average at an important position is always a trade chip if nothing else.

     

    His record says to me, when healthy he can pitch.  Health has been the issue ever since, not the pedigree.  Four years of bad health (I'm going to chalk up 2011 to some kind of degeneration) leads me to be skeptical, but along the lines Brock says above I am content to let the new on-field brain trust make the judgement this time.

    I hesitate to interrupt the genital hijinks to get back to the topic, but I must.  :)  The pedigree also needs to include seasons at age 24 and 26 where he pitched 200+ innings with better than league-average ERA.  That represents a valuable property; being league average at an important position is always a trade chip if nothing else.

     

    His record says to me, when healthy he can pitch.  Health has been the issue ever since, not the pedigree.  Four years of bad health (I'm going to chalk up 2011 to some kind of degeneration) leads me to be skeptical, but along the lines Brock says above I am content to let the new on-field brain trust make the judgement this time.

     

    I am not blown away by the two years.  We are going back five and seven years to find the good years. Two of his nine in the big's.   That was in the NL and pre-TJ.....and his FIP/xFIP numbers those years were a very non-earth shattering 3.96/4.45 and 3.82/4.31.

    I am not blown away by the two years.  We are going back five and seven years to find the good years. Two of his nine in the big's.   That was in the NL and pre-TJ.....and his FIP/xFIP numbers those years were a very non-earth shattering 3.96/4.45 and 3.82/4.31.

    I'm not blown away either.  Someone asked what the pedigree is.  This seems pertinent.  Pedigree doesn't assure success.

    I'm not blown away either.  Someone asked what the pedigree is.  This seems pertinent.  Pedigree doesn't assure success.

     

    Nope.  I merely brought it up because it seems that guys with a strong pedigree get many more chances to prove they can be useful.  I'm not sure a Luke Hochaver, Jason Isringhousen, Zach Britton or Glen Perkins gets as much leeway if they previously weren't a high draft pick or highly rated prospect.  Their stuff was well respected at one point so these guys likely get more chances as there likely is hope that the positives scouts saw at one point can still be salvaged.  Sometimes it can.

    Edited by nicksaviking

    I'm not blown away either.  Someone asked what the pedigree is.  This seems pertinent.  Pedigree doesn't assure success.

     

    I guess I wasn't following the "when healthy he can pitch", given how limited of a sample size he has had of success over nine years, and the relative mediocre-ness of that success.

    His record says to me, when healthy he can pitch.  Health has been the issue ever since, not the pedigree.  Four years of bad health (I'm going to chalk up 2011 to some kind of degeneration) leads me to be skeptical, but along the lines Brock says above I am content to let the new on-field brain trust make the judgement this time.

    I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss 2011.  His poor 2009 season was virtually identical to his 2011 one.  And even his two good years share many common peripherals with his bad ones -- basically those two years he shaved off about 1 H/9 and 0.5 HR/9, which is obviously good but doesn't strike me as a skill given the rest of his record.  By xFIP (which normalizes HR/FB rate), he's basically been the same pitcher his entire career.

    Personally, I feel that it is Milone's job to lose with May starting the season in the bullpen as a long man/spot starter and Meyer starting in AAA. I would expect to see Meyer in June.

     

    Now injuries could happen and it could be an injury on another team. I think they dangle Pelfrey to see if anyone bites. That being said, I would expect to see a lot of him early in spring training as an audition for other teams. I wouldn't expect to get much for him even if we pick up some salary.

    Mike Pelfrey wore the same sweater to Twins Fest this year as he did at Twins Fest two years ago in the dome. That's consistency, and that's what TR and the Twins value. Also, if you squint a little, Big Pelf looks like a sasquatch. That's something of value. Hitters should fear that.

     

    But, unfortunately, he's not actually a sasquatch, and hitters aren't squinting at the baseball. We will all wonder how Big Pelf was able to get a two year deal from the Twins, but we may never know. I think it's safe to assume that his super mega awesome agent got one over on the generous Twins front office. Whoops!

     

    I think Pelf should start the season in the pen. See if his stuff plays up at all. No use sending him to AAA. Build up some value in the pen, and likely have him spot start as needed when arms start falling apart.

    I still don't see the upside of a low leverage relief role. It does nothing to develop a talent for the future, the role has little impact on the team's won loss record and there is no trade market for low leverage relievers.

     

    It does hurt the future to give him that role only to see him leave at the end of the year. They just develop any potential relief talent for another team's benefit in 2016.




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