70charger Verified Member Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 Also is Mark Sobolewski who we picked in the AAA phase (a good defensive 3B who hit 20 HR) the addition to push Plouffe? Good question. Do any of our minor league mavens know anything about this guy?
Mchans24 Verified Member Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 Seems like a "C" prospect to me. Actually, he doesn't. The most damning thing about his stats that I can see is that at the end of this year, being used only as a reliever, he struck out 21 in 27 innings at AA. In fact, he's bounced between starter and reliever throughout his minor league career. So even the hope that his stuff will be amped up out of the 'pen seems unfounded. He is the longest of shots to stay with the team this year, IMHO. It might just be that the Rule 5 just isn't worth paying attention to any more. Or it might just be that the Twins, who have had the #2 and #4 picks the last two years and come up with almost nothing, just don't know how to really take advantage of it any more. Can anyone remember of any Rule 5 picks from last year for any team that look like they're going to be worthwhile? Scott Diamond was a rule 5 pickup if I remember correctly?
CDog Provisional Member Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 Seems like a "C" prospect to me. Actually, he doesn't. The most damning thing about his stats that I can see is that at the end of this year, being used only as a reliever, he struck out 21 in 27 innings at AA. In fact, he's bounced between starter and reliever throughout his minor league career. So even the hope that his stuff will be amped up out of the 'pen seems unfounded. He is the longest of shots to stay with the team this year, IMHO. It might just be that the Rule 5 just isn't worth paying attention to any more. Or it might just be that the Twins, who have had the #2 and #4 picks the last two years and come up with almost nothing, just don't know how to really take advantage of it any more. Can anyone remember of any Rule 5 picks from last year for any team that look like they're going to be worthwhile? Scott Diamond was a rule 5 pickup if I remember correctly? Kinda-sorta. For one, it was the year before last. And for the other, they ended up trading to keep him rather than keep him on the 25-man roster all year in the pure Rule V sense.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 99% of the time Rule 5 players make no real impact, the Twins have hit the jackpot three times with Diamond, Santana and Mack. I'm not real worried about what happens with this guy, I'm more glad we didn't lose anyone from the system with an upside or whatever.
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 Serious question. How are any of these scrubs better than Slama?
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 6, 2012 Posted December 6, 2012 No idea, but they clearly do not believe on Slama.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 As we talked about in another thread, the two pitchers in this draft with a significant chance for impact in 2013 were Josh Fields and Danny Rosenbaum, unfortunately, the Twins were just "good enough" in 2012 W-L to draft one pick after they were taken. They went with the guy who could give possible pen help in 2013. Still, they should have gone after Braulio Lara or Juan Sosa, I'm disappointed, especially considering how they drafted in June and traded for Meyer and May here recently. This was worth the gamble when it was clear they couldn't get Fields or Rosenbaum.
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 I asked this in the live Rule 5 thread but no one is reading that any more. So my question is ... Who the heck was the guy we lost in the AAA portion. I can't find him on any roster. Also is Mark Sobolewski who we picked in the AAA phase (a good defensive 3B who hit 20 HR) the addition to push Plouffe? I don't think you got an answer on Tom Boleska, the guy taken in the AAA portion. The Twins purchsed him from the Fargo indy league team about a month ago. My belief at the time was that he'd close for NB with a chance to move up to Rochester at some point. Really surprised he wasn't on AAA reserve list. The point I continue to bring up is that teams shouldn't officially sign these guys til after the Winter Meetings. The Twins lost Dickey the same way a few years back.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 7, 2012 Author Posted December 7, 2012 I chatted a bit with Tom Boleska today. He signed with the Twins from the Redhawks, but he said at that time that the Orioles were really trying to sign him too, so he isn't surprised he was taken. Going to another team that really wanted him.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Boleska was listed as being taken from Pittsburgh. Ah, well...one of those oddball Twins.
old nurse Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Serious question. How are any of these scrubs better than Slama? velocity on potches
Physics Guy Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 I can think of worse picks... This is the type of guy you can stash in the pen and him not be a complete liability to the team and then send him down next season. Whether or not he can ever develop into a decent starter remains to be seen, but this isn't a bad option either. I don't disagree with you, but the bullpen is getting awfully crowded: Perkins, Burton, Duensing, Fien, Burnett, Swarzak, Robertson, Roenicke, DeVries?, Pressly? I guess that doesn't bode well for Slama's chances, not that he had any. This pick is defninitely a yawner. But let's be honest, anyone available in the Rule 5 is iffy, at best. With Boston drafting a Twins minor leaguer later, maybe there's a shot at simply trading one for the other and allowing both teams to keep the players they drafted even if they don't greatly impress. This is probably how we keep him.
Physics Guy Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Serious question. How are any of these scrubs better than Slama? velocity on potches Given the choice I'd rather have guys with higher velocity, but Marcum averaged 86.5 mph with his fastball last year and had 7.9 K/9. Slama averages over 10K/9 in the minors. Give him a legit chance and if he doesn't cut it, let him go.
beckmt Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Twins keep adding pitchers. This guy should be stashed if he has a decent spring. Maybe he replaces Swarzak as the long reliever or keeps De Vires in Rochester. Pitchers if they have a chance should be played out.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 I can think of worse picks... This is the type of guy you can stash in the pen and him not be a complete liability to the team and then send him down next season. Whether or not he can ever develop into a decent starter remains to be seen, but this isn't a bad option either. I don't disagree with you, but the bullpen is getting awfully crowded: Perkins, Burton, Duensing, Fien, Burnett, Swarzak, Robertson, Roenicke, DeVries?, Pressly? I guess that doesn't bode well for Slama's chances, not that he had any. There's a lot of yawners in that list. Perkins, Burton, and Duensing are really the only ones I have any confidence in being some sort of shut down reliever. I do think Slama deserves a shot and hope he gets it, especially if 2013 is considered a "punt" year. Pressly is similar. I think he can be a decent reliever now, at which point they try to do a Santana and send him down to start in 2014 at Rochester... not a bad plan... hopefully Cuellar can teach him some magic while he's here too..
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 KLAW likes Pressley to have a chance to be worth a win....
East Coast Twin Verified Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 Ryan Flaherty got a lot of playing time for that Orioles team. He'll likely split time with Casilla at 2B next year. Rhiner Cruz also stuck all year with the Astros.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted December 7, 2012 Posted December 7, 2012 I was hoping for a starting pitcher... But I have no idea on the value of any of these guys.
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