have you read the whole entire original thread, where he asks why no one criticized Punto (in direct response to me, point for point) among other things? It isn't a question....no way. It's an accusation. I'm not mad at all, I'm trying to: 1. Understand how criticizing a guy that makes mistakes college players don't anymore is even questioned as racially motivated. 2. Help you understand how, when someone replies to your posts point for point, that it is a direct response, and how that might make someone feel accused. 3. Help people get Chief's point....in this instance, raising race distracts from the power of actual racist behavior in teh sport and its fandom. IMO. 4. Help you realize that me continuing this dicsussion, is, actually, a discussion of race, and not me all made/angry/defensive, whatever else you are saying I am.