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Pedro Hernandez leaves game early
jokin replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
If there was an underlying injury when the trade was made with the Sox there might be grounds to quash the trade for Liriano, but then again, Hernandez was probably given the AOK/All Clear by the Twins medical staff in the first place, so, nevermind. -
While I, too, question the medical staff of this team (see the Pavano article), I think luckylager's post is about right. So essentially the answer is: "We just don't care that much." ....Which is an early indicator of soon-empty stadiums, bags over the heads of the dwindling actual attendees, falling TV ratings and ultimately long-term rearrangement of the professional team pecking order in a given market. Followed by the asteroid impact and the end of all life on Earth. Someone apparently wasn't around when the asteroid hit the Twins club in 70's.... and again in the 80's........followed by the 90's......and the early 2000s......Scorched Earth time, empty stadiums, 7 year battle to contract the team that ended up in court- which was led by the owner.
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What will they do with the extra game balls?
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While I, too, question the medical staff of this team (see the Pavano article), I think luckylager's post is about right. So essentially the answer is: "We just don't care that much." ....Which is an early indicator of soon-empty stadiums, bags over the heads of the dwindling actual attendees, falling TV ratings and ultimately long-term rearrangement of the professional team pecking order in a given market.
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There are open stand up MRI'S Google it. They are pretty rare, and I'm sure Span didn't think it would be an issue going into the MRI. Since they are so rare (the stand up) it wouldn't be shocking if they weren't able to get him to one the same day. Except that the phobia issue likely came up during his first MRI on Monday.
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We all know you have TR on speed dial and intricate knowledge of the inner workings of the front office. Nobody here has any idea what Ryan is thinking or what he's going to do with the medical staff. It doesn't make sense to fire people with less than two months left in the season. After all, you still need doctors to treat players if the season is happening. Nothing in my comment connotes that I have Ryan on speed dial. I did reference his very comments from 9 months ago upon resuming his role as GM. I have not advocated firing people with less than two months left in the season, but you would have to admit that this is a systemic problem that goes back quite a while and now borders on tragi-comic. To pretend that this doesn't call for a greater sense of urgency to reassure the players and fans alike that they are fully focused on getting a better handle on this issue is burying one's head in the sand.
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Did you read through to the end?: "The Twins might be running out of patience, however, if this goes on more than a couple more days. Stay tuned."
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Sweet Jesus are you kidding me? Please tell me that is satire. Give me the The Onion or Harvard Lampoon link. please!
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To be honest, I'm good with that answer. It's not like the team uses pinch hitters often, and there is depth enough. Depth enough? They played 2 games with Butera and Casilla as their bench depth. Begging the question, but they don't use them because they don't have them.
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and down a little more A couple of things are really scary here: - First of all he was hurt since ST (Like Baker - pretty much but different part of his body) and they kept trotting him around so basically giving up on every fifth game. - This whole attitude that if something is hurt because of a repetitive motion and hurts while you are repeating that motion, if you keep doing it will hurt less, is Medieval. Like if you are running barefoot on gravel I am sure that it will hurt less at some point. Eventually. Keep doing it son... it builds character. This goes beyond the medical staff. It shows front office and pitching coach and manager attitudes as well. i'm sure there's a metric for DL time somewhere, surely the Twins have to be at the top for 2011-12. What does this systemically dire situation say to the potential free agents and their respective agents who might be considering the Twins as a potential fit in the offseason?
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Pretty good story by Shipley. Good story, yes, but as many questions that are answered, at least as many more come up. One trip to specialist Dr. Altchek in New York City solves what apparently wasn't figured out by the entire unnamed "Twins medical staff". Twins Assistant Trainer Tony Leo is praised for "working his butt off" on Pavano's rehab, but all for naught and apparently improperly overseen by the "Head Trainer" when no results were forthcoming due to working with an improper diagnosis in the first place. If this was just one isolated incident, it could be chalked up to an unfortunate isolated event, but this has happened over and over and over and the Twins FO and their apologists have little solid ground left to stand on to plead their case.
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Nice first post. As much as the Twins medical staff seems to leave much to be desired; it's hard for me to believe that their culpability is so obvious or so legitimate, and that the Twins would be so willfully ignorant and stubborn to stick with an ineffective staff out of some myopic notion of loyalty. Not sure if the Twins FO notion of loyalty is myopic, perhaps just a shared fealty to ineptitude?
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Nice first post. As much as the Twins medical staff seems to leave much to be desired; it's hard for me to believe that their culpability is so obvious or so legitimate, and that the Twins would be so willfully ignorant and stubborn to stick with an ineffective staff out of some myopic notion of loyalty. And yet the circumstantial evidence continues to ooze from the horrible results, as well as from former and current players' testimony of their bad experiences with said staff/FO.
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Not a lot of direction to go comedically with the Twins-Way-One-Note-Samba.
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I think the team did a pretty good job fixing/restocking the bullpen, honestly. Coming into the season that was everyone's nightmare. Before the season there wasn't a lot of concern over the starting pitching (some but it fell behind the bullpen and lineup). As to the medical staff, I'm interested in what Ryan says about it. I'm not an expert so I won't accuse them of screwing things up (others are doing that enough anyway). But we certainly aren't the only team going ballistic over our medical staff - KC and Boston are right there with us. I come down on the side of Nolan Ryan, Jack Morris, Bert Blyleven and others. It comes down to training for proper mechanics, developing arm strength by throwing more, not less and regular lower body anaerobic conditioning. So the strength and conditioning coaches have to go too? Or are they part of the medical staff? Holy night of the long knives, part deux. I think it's fair to say they are vitally interlinked, especially concerning injury avoidance/prevention and rehab/maintanence once injury has occurred.
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I think the team did a pretty good job fixing/restocking the bullpen, honestly. Coming into the season that was everyone's nightmare. Before the season there wasn't a lot of concern over the starting pitching (some but it fell behind the bullpen and lineup). As to the medical staff, I'm interested in what Ryan says about it. I'm not an expert so I won't accuse them of screwing things up (others are doing that enough anyway). But we certainly aren't the only team going ballistic over our medical staff - KC and Boston are right there with us. I come down on the side of Nolan Ryan, Jack Morris, Bert Blyleven and others. It comes down to training for proper mechanics, developing arm strength by throwing more, not less and regular lower body anaerobic conditioning.
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If I was them I would do both, every time. In high school I had shoulder/lat weakness that cause me to drop my elbow and it messed with my elbow. I also broke my hand and had hand/wrist weakness. The doctor said I was good and didn't need any rehab, so most any high school senior would do, I went out and started throwing, my first bullpen session I had a very sharp pain in my shoulder and I was done for the year because I was overcompensating for my wrist with my shoulder. Moral of the story: it is a decent idea to check both on the chance one caused the other. In this case maybe the bruise caused the shoulder or throwing with shoulder issues caused the bruise. Apparently the Twins Medical Staff might want to get current in the field and go browse through the "Dizzy Dean Injury Cascade" syndrome, peculiar to pitchers. It's only been common knowledge now, for what...? 70 years or so.
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Where are all those folks who kept insisting all year that Ryan needs to be given more time to fully assess the situation? Answer: Running for the tall grass... I'm still here, I believe Ryan will get this organization all on the same page and moving forward by next year. I'm certainly not going to say everything has gone according to plan and that hasn't burned some goodwill but I'm willing to wait until next year to see how he reacts, not how he overreacts. With regards to the pitching staff, I'm hard-pressed in saying that anything has gone according to plan. The closest I can come to finding was Jared Burton--- But was Burton a plan? Or more of a prayer?
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Does TR get a Good Stewardship Conduct Medal for the ~$2M saved by dumping Liriano?
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Stop writing so quickly, Ryan can't assess the situation that fast.
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Where are all those folks who kept insisting all year that Ryan needs to be given more time to fully assess the situation? Answer: Running for the tall grass...
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If you can't laugh at the ridiculous state of the Twins medical staff, the diagnosis must be a bruised humorous.
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Bollinger: Twins set to recall Liam Hendriks
jokin replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Let's call him Liam... or Hendriks. Hendy just doesn't sound right. I was just trying to pre-empt Gardenhire's name-mangling usage if/when Hendriks pitches a good game. -
It's not a commentary on the quality of the pitcher. It's a commentary on the term "ace." Felix is clearly an elite pitcher and Seattle's No. 1 starter but if he's never pitching meaningful games why get caught up with labels? In my opinion, an ace is the leader of a good rotation on a contending team who clearly gets the ball in Game One of a postseason series. By my definition, there aren't even close to 30 aces in the league. But that's a separate issue. I realize it's a subjective definition of a subjective term. Anyway, the central point is that Diamond is not going to be the No. 1 pitcher on a good pitching staff. I'll stand by that. Anyone who believes he'll continue to maintain a ~3.00 ERAin the long-term or will be the next Radke or Buehrle is, as Mackey puts it, getting carried away. On this I concur, with the caveat that Mackey gets a little too carried away with his own self-important self more than his characterization that all the fans are in a general uproar getting carried away to nominate Diamond as the next Stephen Strasburg.