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  1. Excellent post. I think I read so many comments and posts from imaginary baseball experts that I forget that the people actually playing/coaching the game know a hell of a lot more than us. Really like what Bruno said about only wanting to join the Twins org, despite the fact he was traded. I think that is why I am a Twins fan in Idaho--just like the way they treat their employees. Maybe we should call the Twins' struggle to develop MI "The Curse of Tommy Herr." And maybe cutting his son was a symbolic way to break that curse.
  2. Cool retrospective, Seth. My Twins fandom started with Kirby and was reignited by Torii. Fun to read about the previous torch-holders. Always good to remember there have been a lot of pretty good major leaguers over the years that I absolutely have never heard of. Puts things in perspective--it's tough to be really great for an extended period of time. I hope the best for Hicks--I was kind of surprised that he didn't get more time with Span or Revere before the torch was passed to him.
  3. Hudson: OK. Mulder was great in that he soon broke down and Haren was a stud. But they didn't get much for Haren or Gonzalez. The Andrew Bailey deal worked out pretty good. Not resigning Zito (like they had a chance) was smart. However, considering what he yielded in free agent dollars, how much could they have reaped by sticking to their "philosophy" and trading him for prospects?
  4. I'm not going to whitewash the past, but give the Twins some credit for drafting HS arms Berrios and Boyd with high picks. As for Bard, Melatokis, and Chargois (No-Run BMC), if even one of them develops into a viable starter, I'd be happy, especially if the other two made it as relievers. Imagine if all three were to make it as starter: Someone would write a book about how the Twins revolutionized draft strategy
  5. I think Butera suffers from the same thing Capps did--being associated with the Ramos trade. I.e. he's logged a lot of innings that Ramos otherwise would have. But leaving past misuse aside, I don't think he's a terrible option as third catcher--as long as he's stationed in Rochester and not the end of the bench. Check out Fangraph's positional power rankings for catchers:2013 Positional Power Rankings: Catcher | FanGraphs Baseball The list is littered with catchers who are almost as bad as Butera. Some of them are even primary backups. I'm hopeful Hermann and Rohlfing surpass Butera on the food chain this year, and that Pinto turns out to be a legit prospect. Until then, Butera has proven himself to be consistently replacement level and he has a pretty good knowledge of a lot of the Twins staff. And if Escobar or Clement can man the position in a pinch, there is absolutely no need to roster him.
  6. That was an interesting article. I'd probably do the same thing if I were in that position. I'd rather win $12 Million in the lottery today than $100 Million in 5 years.
  7. Nicely done! Chris could be one of those "Major League" type characters that help this team to a highly improbable pennant push. As much as I'd enjoy seeing Thome back, this guy deserves a shot.
  8. Reusse is right. Some fans will be angry regardless of any decision the Twins make. This is a pretty easy "told you so. "
  9. Drew Butera is the worst hitter in all of baseball. This may be true, but there are a lot of awful hitting backup (and starting) catchers in the league. Nice post, by the way.
  10. Yes. Thank you Seth.
  11. Arrgg! I'm so confused by this "year of control" issue! I keep seeing conflicting theories. Is it a year extra before free-agency, or an extra minimum wage year? I can't believe the Players Union would give up a year of free agency in exchange for a good player being kept down. That is a lose lose.
  12. None of the above as well. Did you see Anibel Sanchez get shelled in the WBC? Sort of kidding. What gets me is the inherent hypocrisy between #1 and #5 (Hicks on opening day). On the one hand you have people clamoring to spend more, and the other you have people who think it would be a waste of money to start Hicks' arb clock early. Are they the same people?
  13. But didn't they gain a "super two" year? You know, I really don't think I know what I'm talking about, so maybe I should quit this thread.
  14. I agree with Brock--things go in cycles. Picking in the top 5 for a few years in a row certainly should help an organization look good. To the Rays lovers--I understand geographical loyalty. I'm lucky--the nearest Major League team to me is 600 miles away, so I can just pick a team I admire, which happens to be the Twins. I get it--you love your logo but wish it stood for something else. Hang in there--recent history (Sano, Buxton, Meyer, et. al.) seem to suggest the Twins are adopting a more Rays like approach. This thread has gone pretty well despite the idiot comments. I've honestly been backed off my position that the extra year of cost-control doesn't matter. I still think that if Hicks earns the job he should come north. I don't care what job you have, if you're the best guy for the job, you should be rewarded. It sends a positive message throughout the org that if you work hard you will be rewarded. I'm sorry that hard work can't be quantified easily in some statistic. And I stand by my premise that the Angels bungled it with Trout. He's the kind of guy that should get a Longoria type contract, maybe even this year, rendering his "cost-control" years moot. The Angels spent a lot of money last year going all in, and perhaps if they hadn't of chiseled Trout out of a few weeks in the majors, they might have made the playoffs.
  15. So, let's say B.J. Upton has a truly stupendous breakout year. Are you saying the Rays (the paragon of well run organizations for so many) would have been smarter to stash him in the minor leagues for a couple of more years, so as to have preserved his cost controlled prime? I have a fuzzy memory of him mashing in the playoffs as an unprimed 23 year old... Please rebut with an argument or examples that go beyond "You are an idiot if you don't see things my way." Here's a couple of lobs which might work out in your favor if you have the time to research. Cano and Ellsbury. Pending free agents. Are the Yanks/Sox better or worse off (or neither) based on how they handled the pre-arb years? I'm truly curious. Could the Yankees put off the looming mega-payday by one more year had they done things differently?
  16. Since we're talking about 2020, here are my dreams: House paid off. Comfortable salary at a job I love. Two boys half-way to their Mike Trout -like Opening Day debuts at Target Field. Justin Morneau just re-signed to DH for the Twins Thome style. Mauer holding down the fort at second base. Aaron Hicks traded to make room for Buxton, for a bevy a prospects that will form the core of the 2030 team that my boys will both be a part of. Ahh, 2030! Can't wait till two decades from now!
  17. First off, can a site admin maybe fix this thread--it appears in three different places with three different sets of comments. This one is the least easy to find but has the most comments by far. Second, I'm firmly in the camp that you bring the best guys north--sends a message to the players in the org. that if you have our back we'll have yours when the time is right. I mean, do you really want to have a bunch of lesser players on "scholarship?" Third, IMO, the Angels have screwed up royally with Trout so far. They spent enormous amounts of money to contend last year and then repressed their best player to save money? And then the law of unintended consequences took over--in order to make good they traded a bunch of prospects for Greinke and then knee-jerked and signed Hamilton this off-season. Think they would have signed him if they'd had a good or great playoff run? I'm not so sure. And now of course the league minimum re-up. That's probably not as big a deal but bears watching. At any rate, whether it is six years or five years from now, the Angels will be trying to sign Trout for record setting numbers, right as he enters his prime, whilst simultaneously paying gobs of money to Pujols to DH. Finally, as others have stated, Hicks will have Buxton breathing down his neck soon enough. Get his career started already. As for Gibson, if he's ready, give him a spot. Skip a start here and there to extend him as far into the season as possible. Better to be around Andy and Cuellar and Mauer than in Rochester as the ace.
  18. "Hicks is not Trout or Harper." Exactly. He looks to be a better version of Span, but no superstar, so why worry about service time. He'll be trade fodder in three years anyway. Don't get me wrong--if he/they aren't ready to contribute, shelve this discussion. But if they are, what is the point of giving Brandon Boggs a roster spot (and potentially losing someone else off the 40 man) in favor of a distant future that may never come. Plus, if they've earned a spot on the team, perhaps rewarding them now would make them more likely to sign a team friendly contract later.
  19. I totally see your point of view. However, if they impress in the spring, bring them both north. A couple of factors: Last year's AAA hitting and pitching coaches are on the big league staff now, so instructionally, they're kind of getting the same thing. With Byron Buxton in the pipeline behind Hicks, I don't see the extra year of control outweighing the need for a lead-off hitting outfielder. This would also enable Mastro to be a late inning defensive sub. As for Gibson, he's 25 and deserves a shot, even if it means shutting him down Strasburg style. I know there is more than one way to limit innings, but having go through a normal spring training and then regularly pitch 5-7 innings seems like a good thing for his long-term development, even if it means ending his season early.
  20. I won't say homers are overrated, but in the case of potentially great all around hitters like Rosario, a hefty dose of doubles is almost better. Giving up a two run double with a man still on base keeps the heat on a pitcher and may lead to more sustained rallies than a three run homer would have. I say this because I think Rosario is a top prospect even as an OF. Sabers, feel free to debunk my hypothesis
  21. Three Men and a Baby (Buxton) Or, The Three Guys Who Were Blocking Eddie Rosario's Start to a HOF career.
  22. Is there a really good Puerto Rican 2B blocking Rosario or is his defense so raw they won't play him there? Or, to put it another way, is there a chance he could hit his way into a start or two a 2B? I'm sure it is a huge honor to play for your country, but it would be nice if he spent ST working on D, rather than sitting on a bench. Nonetheless, great boxscore for him today, and he fielded the final out.
  23. I was an international baseball scout when the Agency recruited and trained me. We worked together on bringing down that Columbian drug lord. I was also in on the Wilson Ramos rescue...if only we could have rescued him from the Capps trade, it could've justified both my professions. Seriously, this forum needs more humor like yours and less of the sixth-grade-turn Drew Butera's name- into-Peew Butt-aira type stuff.
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