Dantes929
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See that's it. I saw the bunt, put my boy to bed and came back in time to see him give up the hit. I blame myself.
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Colon walked the leadoff guy and then fell behind on the next guy but he did ok otherwise. I really need to turn the TV off when Pressley comes in. Great stuff but he just never does well when I watch. I was with Dick by the way. I think we caught a break on Buxton's bunt when he seemed to make a turn after running past the base. Great bunt though. Again we see good things happen when he is on base.
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MIN 3, TOR 2: Buxton Blasts Walk-Off HR
Dantes929 replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Well, if we don't make the playoffs it might because Sano wasn't in there but we will never know one way or the other. If he is healthy then he shouldn't be playing at all if our general odds of winning are not increased while he plays. Funny thing about the team game aspect of baseball is that it could very well be that if Sano had been in there all along we might have lost some games that we have won. I thought that without Sano we had a much smaller chance of making the playoffs when in reality not having Sano might be the reason we do. (knock on wood, kow,kow) An Escobar that is hitting well trumps a slumping Sano but there again we will never know.- 64 replies
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MIN 3, TOR 2: Buxton Blasts Walk-Off HR
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Its true but I think the feeling right now is that aside from a catcher, all we have got is good hitters. What a switch from earlier in the year and all of last year.- 64 replies
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MIN 3, TOR 2: Buxton Blasts Walk-Off HR
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Thank you for that. I had a hard time finding the stat. So he is 5 for 5 against lefties but it is still hard get a read against them. I assume Buxton has the green light at all times and can go when he has a good feel for it. The whole board thinks the bunt was a bad idea unless he was going for a hit and I am in line with that thinking as well. It is one of the rare times a move has been criticized even though it worked better than hoped for. I respect that. Ok, its unanimous that Rosario shouldn't have bunted. Not a whole lot of discussion about what happens then even though you brought it up in your original report. I think they should have tried a double steal because I said to my wife at the time that Vargas was either going to strike out or hit into a double play. You mentioned the possibility of subbing for Vargas in order to sacrifice the guys to 2nd and 3rd. I liked that idea. Would this move meet with unanimous approval I wonder.- 64 replies
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Its why I think it is possible Rosario bunted on his own. I think he likes to think of himself as a complete player that has a lot of weapons. Of course it is fun to hit walk off home runs (I assume) but its a lot of fun to bunt for hits too. Polanco looks like he swings pretty hard to hit homers but Rosario and Buxton just seem to have a lot of natural power. I don't want any of them thinking they are home run hitters but rather good hitters that can sometimes hit home runs.
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Most play in games to win a WS then?
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Well, I would take the way Gibson is pitching right now over Les Straker even though I liked Straker. I have often taken both sides on Blyleven based on whether I thought he was getting too much or too little credit for what he did. I jumped in on the needing two dominant starters part. Of course it helps to have great starters but there are a lot of ways to skin a cat and a lot of different cats to skin different ways. I have read that you need home run hitters because the pitching is too good to have extended rallies by playing small ball and that you need two dominant starters to have a chance in the playoffs so what I really should have cited was the 2015 Royals. Now maybe they were an out flyer but I look at the 87 Twins that way also. There were arguably 8 or more teams that were better that year. They are the team I would always point to when giving the current team a chance. 91 was more legit. That was just a solid team all the way around. Anyway, playoffs are SSS. Its why guys like Billy Martin and Bucky Dent and Gene Larkin along with hundreds of other non stars have been playoff heroes.
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Look at their monthly stats. Belisle has had a much better 2nd half of the season also. I'm not discounting Reardon's value but the reason for his value wasn't how good he was but how good he was compared to the other guys on the relief staff and how good he was compared to what they had the year before. They had lost tons of games where they had led or were tied after 7 innings in 1986 so Reardon was extremely valuable because he was competent rather than that he was great. Its why Berenguer was so valuable also. And then yes,Reardon had a very good September. He was good but he still gave up runs and he still gave up leads. Its just that an 80% success rate was what that team needed. I also grant that the role was different but if that team had had a Kintzler, Belisle, Rogers and Hildenberg Reardon would not have stood out.
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I guess I will quibble. He kept teams in ball games and benefited from having a pretty good offense himself. That is what the 23-14 record tells me. Great value in that and there were times in his career that he was dominant. I just don't think that he was that year and I didn't think it at the time. I thought he was a good pitcher but there wasn't a playoff game that he started where I thought we had a better than 50/50 chance of winning because he was going against pitchers as good or better, IMO. Viola was dominant and Blyleven was good. Nothing wrong with that. I still believe good pitchers are capable of throwing great games. If you are going to call him dominant then we have at least two dominant pitchers on this current team. Berrios and Santana both have OPS+ north of 115
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MIN 3, TOR 2: Buxton Blasts Walk-Off HR
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Great stat and TY but what is Buxton's success rate against lefties? Also, this strengthens the case that statistically Buxton should have tried stealing instead of sacrificing but do you think he knew those stats at the time? All he sees is a lefty.- 64 replies
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MIN 3, TOR 2: Buxton Blasts Walk-Off HR
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It might not have been his idea but with a lefty on the mound I am guessing he thought he had a decent chance of getting on by bunting down the 1st base line. I love fast guys bunting for hits. Its one of the more exciting plays and I don't think major leaguers and particularly pitchers, do a great job of defending it.- 64 replies
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Viola was awesome but what about 1987 Reardon separates him? 8-8 record and 4.48 ERA.
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You are basing dominance based on wins? Why not losses which would put Blyleven behind all Cards pitchers or ERA which would put him behind 3 of them? Also, Berrios has 12 wins in 23 starts to Blyleven's 15 wins in 37 starts. Obviously, Berrios is on a way better pace. Santana is already at 15 wins. Are you saying we already have two dominant starters?
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MIN 3, TOR 2: Buxton Blasts Walk-Off HR
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Your point is fine except they brought in a lefty to face Rosario and maybe as much to keep Buxton from stealing. I couldn't find the stats but I know he isn't 25-26 with a lefty on the mound. It was a great bunt and one of the reasons it worked was because it was a lefty on the mound. I think Rosario wanted to move the runner but not convinced he was thinking sacrifice. 1st and 2nd and no outs was a great result. Some have suggested now was the time to bunt but I was thinking now is the time for a double steal. Worst case scenario is guy on second with 1 out. Best case, 2nd and 3rd with no outs.- 64 replies
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Blyleven was 15-12 with a 4.01 ERA. Is that dominant?
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Do relievers qualify for big status? Busenitz and Hildenberger look pretty decent. When we resign Kintzler will he qualify?
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There are losing teams and there are losing teams. The ones the Twins have played are those that are within a game or so of .500 and also playing for the WC spot and 7 of those were on the road. Really not so bad when you consider the Twins are barely above .500 themselves. Odds makers would probably have said we should win 6.5 of the games in September thus far. We don't know what is imperative to close out the schedule. There is a very good chance that 8-9 will get it done but always the possibility of someone getting really hot and making 10-7 not good enough. If I could bank 9-8 I would but like I said we don't know what it will take.
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Tommy Herr. One of my least favorite Twins because of his attitude. I loved the trade at the time because one of the big weaknesses of the 87 Twins was offense from the 2nd baseman. Herr had a nice track record but did not want to be here. Not too long before I didn't want him here either.
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4 teams would be kind of cool. I don't want the Twins to just win the WS. I want them to also set a record for most postseason wins in one year.
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I don't care to do the math but since there are a fair amount of games left with wild card hopefuls playing wild card hopefuls what would be the fewest wins possible for a team to make the WC. Now statistically all of the teams are pretty close to .500 after 144 games or so and would be projected to go 50/50 from this point so the Twins could go 8-10 from this point, win 83 games and edge out the Angels or go 7-11 from this point with a play in to WC game. Of course looking at it statistically reminds me when three statisticians went out hunting, and came across a large deer. The first statistician fired, but missed, by a meter to the left. The second statistician fired, but also missed, by a meter to the right. The third statistician didn't fire, but shouted in triumph, "On the average we got it
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Scrawled through 7 pages and there is a name I haven't seen yet. I understand it. He split time between being a sub and a starter. He played hard, could play a lot of positions. Just your run of the mill player. No one really ever seemed to have an opinion on him for good or for bad. Just the kind of guy that goes out there and plays and no one really seems to notice much. In fact I wonder if anyone on here even remembers him. Does the name Nick Punto ring a bell for anyone?
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From your summary it looks like it is also reasonable that 84 or even 83 wins could be enough.
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Don't know if you should even mention Pags without his platoon partner Scott Leius. I never thought the 91 WS team should have miracle attached to it. That was a really good team If you want to say miracle then 87 would be the year. Just look at BR page for that pitching staff. I was going to say if there was a weak link offensively to that 91 team it would be at 3rd base but a quick look says the platoon was solid. The weak link was Gladden.
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Remembering Bostock led me to checking him out on Wiki. Interesting guy. Didn't play his first two years in college (choosing student activism instead) but somehow was still drafted by the Cards. Played the next two college seasons and was drafted by the Twins. Runner up to the batting title to Carew's monster year and was 4th after Carew, McCrae and Brett another year. Controversy for that title I believe. Was one of the first free agents but when he got off to a bad start offered to return his salary and when refused by the Angels, personally reviewed thousands of requests from charities so he could donate the salary of that bad month. He was still the leading hitter on the team by the end of the season. Then got shot by the husband of a woman he had just met 20 minutes earlier because the guy mistakenly thought they were having an affair based only on them getting in a car together.

