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Game Thread: Royals @ Twins 1:10 PM 5/30/2021
ChiefsKid replied to stringer bell's topic in Archived Game Threads
I don't think we should be applauding Rocco (or any coach, ever) for the strategy of "throw your best stuff."- 118 replies
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Game thread, Twins vs Royals 5/29/21, 1:10 PM CDT
ChiefsKid replied to Hosken Bombo Disco's topic in Archived Game Threads
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Game thread, Twins vs Royals 5/29/21, 1:10 PM CDT
ChiefsKid replied to Hosken Bombo Disco's topic in Archived Game Threads
Halfway to winning the Sal Perez bet! Got that going for us, which is nice. -
Game Thread, Twins vs Royals, 5/28/21, 7:10 PM CDT21,
ChiefsKid replied to USAFChief's topic in Archived Game Threads
Pop quiz answer: "yes." I'll take the over for Perez. Also my pick to click tonight is Garlick against the lefty. -
Grading Each Team in the Mookie Betts Trade
ChiefsKid replied to Andrew Thares's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins absolutely needed starting pitching. And a lot of it. Pretty simple to me, they don't view Graterol as a starter. Of the class of prospects that got their feet wet in 2019, he's got the best 'stuff'. If they thought he was ever gonna be a starter I don't see the value in trading him for Maeda. Once the Donaldson deal got done (which I absolutely love, btw), money got a little tight. Giving up Brusdar stings a little, but getting Maeda essentially paid for this year is pretty good value back for the Twins. Berrios Odorizzi Maeda Pineda Hill Bailey Chacin If only half of these guys catch fire, its gonna be a much better rotation than the last few years. Odorizzi is on one of those 'I need to earn my one big contract' years. And also, somehow the lineup is seemingly better than last year, if that's possible. And(!) Bringing in Clippard and resigning Romo deepens the bullpen. I was pretty harsh and skeptical of the FO when Ryu went elsewhere. But I'll gladly eat the crow here and give credit where credit is due. Quite a bit was done this offseason and I'm pretty impressed. This specific trade probably gets a B+, overall offseason gets a solid A from me. -
Tough to give up an arm like Graterol, but Maedas floor/ceiling and price tag is a pretty solid get for a 21 year old unproven flamethrower who's already been moved to the bullpen. Tells me they had little interest in Graterol starting in 2020 and probably 2021, and also have concerns about relying 2-3 SP spots to the rookies. I would have loved to see someone with a higher upside. But it seems like they are just going to throw enough mud at the middle of the rotation hoping something sticks. I hope something sticks, too.
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Ranking the Remaining Free Agent Starters
ChiefsKid replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yuck. But, I would imagine Walker (and honestly anybody from this list with any upside) is just gonna wait it out for a guaranteed MLB contract. No sense in signing an invite deal now, they could probably get that a week before pitchers and catchers report just about anywhere. -
Do the Twins Really Need to Add Another Starter?
ChiefsKid replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
To make an argument the Twins don't need additional starting pitching, particularly at the front of the rotation, is putting A LOT of faith in Pineda, Hill, and the crop of young guys. I don't have such faith.- 134 replies
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FEINSAND: Twins to Sign Josh Donaldson
ChiefsKid replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Valid. You're right. I was more speaking in generalities. Any individual player can make decisions for whatever reason they want, sure. But I've seen multiples mentions of "The Twins will never sign a big name FA because it's cold." Or there isn't a high Asian population in the region. Or the taxes are high. Make a respectable offer, and they will at least consider it. This signing doesn't prove they were willing to pay Bumgarner, Wheeler, Keuchel, or Ryu the same rates they accepted. It doesn't disprove it, either. We'll never know. -
FEINSAND: Twins to Sign Josh Donaldson
ChiefsKid replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Hard to find anything to dislike about this move. Donaldson is legit a frontline FA, and somehow 21M AAV seems like a discount. He just makes this team better, and significantly. Two thumbs way up. Two things moving forward though: This disproves any notion there's any reason outside of money that front end FAs won't come to Minnesota. Second, I believe this roster is now one front line SP away from being, at least on paper, a legitimate World Series contender. I'll eat the crow, and say this is a big move from the FO. I've been pretty skeptical of them up to this point, and this moves the needle quite a bit in the right direction for me. Whether it works out or not. -
FEINSAND: Twins to Sign Josh Donaldson
ChiefsKid replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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*If* Pineda and Hill come back. Pineda has had 8ish good starts in the past 3 years. Absolute best case scenario is to get 80 innings out of Hill. And I'd probably take the under on that. As it has been with seemingly every single move this FO makes, I don't hate the Homer Bailey signing. Just not as the only addition to the rotation. This starting staff is one Jose Berrios elbow injury from being one of the worst in baseball.
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Respectfully, I suppose I just disagree with the notion that a 4 year, 100M contract to Josh Donaldson is as big of a financial risk as you make it out to be. The Twins have about 25M committed to the 2021 payroll right now, and even less going forward. It's one thing to "run a stable business", as you put it. Its another to make claims of aggressive pursuit of top tier free agents and extensions in order to increase a potential World Series run and then scoff at every single opportunity to do so. Josh Donaldson is a hell of a baseball player. One of the better 3B in the league, both offensively and defensively. He would be out of his mind not to consider coming to the Twins, sit in the middle of this lineup and feast on the AL Central pitching staffs. The *only* reason he won't is because the Twins won't pay him his market rate.
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92 is not closer to 100 than it is to 85, first of all. But that's not the point. The point is the Twins are hung up on 3M per year and unwilling to make it happen. I've been reading quite a bit, and have seen absolutely nowhere that the Twins are offering even 92. Its gonna be one final kick in the gonads when Donaldson signs with Atl for 4/95-100 and the Twins were given every opportunity to beat that.
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Rich Hill: A 40-Year Old Mr. October?
ChiefsKid replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Will he provide anything for the Twins in the playoffs? Short answer, no. Long answer, also no. -
Twins Front Office Testing Fate in Waiting
ChiefsKid replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
This. A million times over, this.- 87 replies
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The idea that the Twins not making any moves now to significantly improve their chances of winning a WS in 2020 has any impact on their ability to make moves in the 2022 offseason to improve their chances at winning a WS in 2023 is the single most frustrating mindset of stomaching this giant disappointment of an offseason. In my eyes, there is absolutely no legitimate excuse for the Twins going into 2020 with a sub-par starting rotation. Also, we still don't have a first baseman, mind you. And hoping Josh Donaldson would magically take 80% of what he's going to get is not an excuse for that, either. Don't tell me they cant improve the 2020 team without sacrificing the entire future of the franchise beyond a 4 year, $85M deal for Ryu. I just don't buy it.
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Hayes: Twins To Sign Rich Hill & Homer Bailey
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I care. A lot. If you're asking me, the Twins are nowhere near a better team right now than they were in October. I do not believe Rich Hill + Homer Bailey make this team any better than it was going into the Yankees playoff series. Several players are bound for a bit of regression, the 'juiced ball' debate notwithstanding. The AL Central is bound to be pretty weak, yet again. There have been several opportunities in the FA market to improve this team. Most importantly in the rotation, where right now the Twins have an absolute glaring need. Desperate, I would even say. -
Hayes: Twins To Sign Rich Hill & Homer Bailey
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the Twins only pay him the $3M, this signing will somehow be worse than it is right now. Meaning, it didn't pan out and we're left starting Randy Dobnak in a playoff series. Again. -
Hayes: Twins To Sign Rich Hill & Homer Bailey
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
MLBTR says the deal has 9.5M in incentives, on top of the 3M base salary. -
Hayes: Twins To Sign Rich Hill & Homer Bailey
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins guaranteeing Rich (*$ing) Hill $12.5M for pitching barely 1/3rd of an effective season is the definition of an "overpay", if there is such a thing. Never mind that he's 40 years old and coming off surgery on his throwing arm. Going into the season, I wouldn't count on him being available come playoff time, if our 3 man rotation for half a season can get us there. Is there any other 40 year old you would guarantee 12.5M to for throwing 75 innings? Any?? Bailey is nothing more than a replacement level guy. Wrong side of 30 and on the decline. Also, he hasn't pitched more than 150 innings but once since turning 30, and only one time in his career posted an ERA+ north of 110. I guess this is what we should expect from here out. Low Risk, Low Reward. Any talk of "I'm sure the FO will acquire *somebody* before the season starts" is starting to feel like wishful thinking. All the talk of 'aggresive' pursuit of 'impact pitching' was, to this point, a blatant lie. Theres absolutely *nothing* aggressive about ANYTHING this FO has ever done, up to this point. Maybe Bailey puts together a fine, respectable season. Maybe Hill throws 90 innings of quality pitching. Maybe one of the young bucks surprises us and magically becomes a middle of the rotation arm. For a young team with a solid core coming off of a lot of breakout performances, this offseason has been overwhelmingly disappointing. -
Ryu To Sign with Toronto. Now What?
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not making a competitive offer and Wheeler/Bumgarner "leaving money on the table" are independent situations, worthy of independent debate. The fact that the Twins didn't even make competitive offers is the underlying issue of why I'm so critical of it. What upsets me is they claimed they would be aggressive in pursuit, but so far at every opportunity, they have been everything but. I'd put long term value in Ryu because I believe he's overwhelmingly better of a pitcher than Devin Smeltzer, therefore significantly increasing the depth of the rotation and gives the Twins a much better chance at winning postseason games. 4 years was the minimum to get him. That's what his value is at. Whether you think it or not, he wasn't going to even contemplate taking a shorter offer unless it came at a massively higher AAV. -
Ryu To Sign with Toronto. Now What?
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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Ryu To Sign with Toronto. Now What?
ChiefsKid replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sometimes players might choose to go elsewhere because they legitimately wanted to go there. Some of it is uncontrollable. Once or twice, sure. I'll buy that. But when it happens at every single turn, it starts to become an issue of the common denominator. The Twins just aren't in the running for "second tier" FA pitchers. The Twins being unwilling to include a 5th year in the offer to Bumgarner is the reason I'm pretty sour about it. And if I was a betting man, I would venture to say they lowballed the Ryu offer as well. There is zero indication the Twins offered even what Arizona did (the "discount"). The fact that Wheeler passed on an offer higher than the one he took is completely irrelevant to the fact that the Twins didn't make a competitive offer.

