Brock Beauchamp
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Article: Which Pitcher Will Lose His Job?
Brock Beauchamp replied to bwille's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think it's safe to say Walters is next in line to lose his job. -
He was close to the top 50 on a couple of lists. On the other hand, his value had dropped significantly by the time he was traded. It was such an awful trade. Overpaying with a guy whose value had (probably temporarily) dropped for a mediocre reliever. Facepalm.
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Winning trumps all and it looks like there's a good chance that Moore just blew the Royals' shot at winning. Unless they pull it together in 2014, their window could slam shut. No matter how you look at it, taking a 3-4 year window, gambling with a prospect, and reducing that window to 1-2 years is a pretty sketchy idea. So I'll take a patient route over impatience, bad decisions, and grandstanding. An addendum: this does not excuse the Twins from spending money. They could easily be chasing 1-3 year contracts without hurting their future one bit.
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Yeah, pretty much.
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Are you responding to me? If so, what do the Royals trading away prospects have to do with the Twins acquiring a free agent like Matt Garza? And the simple reason why you shouldn't trade prospects for established players before you're competitive is cost and window; established players cost more money and you don't get them for six years. Again, look at the Royals. They jumped the gun without making certain that their offensive prospects were ready, traded off a piece that could help them for six years, and they lose Shields after next season. This Shields trade could have single-handedly dismantled the potential of one of the best farm systems in the past 20 years because the GM got impatient.
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I don't remember Ramos in any top 50 lists.
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I thought the trade was awful. You let your young kids break out and then you go pick up a "final piece". You don't pick up a guy in his prime that you'll have for only a couple of years and cross your fingers that the young players will break out. Doubly so if you have to trade one of those young guys to pick up that in-his-prime player, thereby reducing the number of failures you're allowed to have and still succeed as a whole. The Royals have the bulk of their young players for 4+ more years. What's the rush? You get your own house in order and then you upgrade. It's not a difficult concept.
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I think the most important thing we can take away from Kansas City's situation is that it's really freakin dumb to trade away a AAA masher for a pitcher before you find out if your other young mashers can actually mash the ball. Can't hit homers, eh? Well, there's a young kid in Tampa who could have helped a bit with that. After all, he already has two homers in 42 PAs.
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I'd rather punch myself in the face every time I pick up my phone than follow FanaticJack on Twitter. Because, at the end of the day, those two things are pretty much the same thing.
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Very true but as Joe is showing this season, he still has a couple of years left to actually bring his career averages up before the decline sets in. Also, there's a good chance that Joe ages in the way that Paul Molitor, Wade Boggs, or Tony Gwynn aged... Basically, they kept putting up numbers close to their career line into their late 30s. Low power, control hitters seem to do really well, provided they don't get injured. Even John Olerud held on with decent numbers until his age 36 season (after which he retired), but he was also more power-based than anyone else I just listed.
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I think Worley and Diamond's problems stem from the fact that neither is all that good at pitching. Same goes for Pelfrey but he's coming back from TJS. It's not shocking to see him scuffle. With that said, I think both Worley and Diamond will return to being serviceable pitchers. We just need to give them a little time and it's a good idea that some of that time come in Rochester.
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Yep, all of this.
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I guess it all depends on preference. In my opinion, if the Twins have legitimate MLB talent to trade, it's time to start asking for more than low minors, high upside guys. Ask for close-to-MLB talent in return to start prepping for the arrival of Gibson, Hicks, Sano, Buxton, Meyers, etc. If the only return you can get is high upside, low minors (say, for a Willingham type), then you take it. But not for Perkins. And no "good prospect and filler" trades for in-demand MLB talent. I'd say "marquee prospects or no deal". Filler is just that... Filler. The Twins don't need filler. They have an organization full of filler talent. They need to start laying down a hard date for a "launch window" and be ready to compete at that point. My opinion is that date should be 2015.
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Eh, not for Hanson. Taillon, for sure. I think some are underestimating just how important it is that Perkins is signed for 3 1/2 seasons for like a buck-fifty a year.
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I think there's a good chance Plouffe is good enough to stick at third and the Twins end up trading him when Sano is ready. But yeah, Dozier is probably a utility guy. A pretty good one, too.
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They'd make me crazy, too. No one in their right mind would even consider Plouffe at short again. He was awful and it wasn't nerves. He doesn't have anything except the arm to play short (and his arm is erratic). As for Dozier, well... He might play a "not horrendous" shortstop but it would still be pretty bad. He doesn't have the arm to play short but has enough range to not embarrass himself. And it's not as if his bat is going to make up for his defensive deficiencies. Simply put, the Twins need to look outside the organization for an adequate shortstop.
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On the topic of catchers, I was thinking "man, Pudge (I-Rod Pudge) was so good for so long" and then I looked at his stat line. Yikes. His offense fell off a cliff after his age 32 season. I knew it dropped a lot but I had no idea it dropped that low that quickly. He went from a 137 OPS+ in his age 32 season to never cracking 100 again in his career.
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I haven't seen anything that makes me believe catcher WAR is worth a damn.
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Eh, then you have to argue that "math" undervalues them. I think it's pretty clear that, given their typical use, closers are not worth $10m+ contracts for 4-5 years. They're fickle, have a tendency to spectacularly collapse, and are one of the most under-utilized assets of most baseball teams. Where a good closer shines is a one-run lead in the ninth inning. How often does that happen a season? 15, 20 times? Closers by nature are not lacking in value. In fact, you could argue the opposite... Closing a game means a win. Wins get you to the playoffs. What decreases their value is the absolutely asinine way in which the closer, who is often the best pitcher on the roster, is utilized by management.
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Really, I'd limit it to a SS or SP candidate but yeah, I think we mostly agree here. All I'm saying is that the haul better be a good one to trade Perkins because if it isn't, just hold on to him. Given his contract and age, he's just as tradeable this offseason or next July.
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If he gets someone a little more highly regarded than Alex Meyer in return, that's a deal you have to make. Otherwise, I'd just keep Glen. He's one of the best relievers in the league under a ridiculously cheap contract.
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No way could I say that name with a straight face. Pass.
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It's a mistake to use straight OPS when comparing players of different eras. Sure, Piazza was an offensive monster. So was everybody else in that era and many of them played in smaller ballparks, to boot. Career OPS+: Piazza: 143 Bench: 126 Mauer: 136 Piazza is still tops but the gap narrows quite a bit once you adjust for park and league.
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Given the Twins' track record over the past 25 years, the best long-term fix for shortstop is for the Twins to start petitioning MLB to eliminate the position of shortstop. Time to start thinking outside of the box.
