I'd agree on the player bit. I value catching a lot (particularly when compared to the average catcher) but Joe's ability to stay behind the dish is suspect. Still, he's a top 30 player. I don't think there is any real doubt to that (and to say he's not is making the argument that every MLB team, on average, has a better player than Joe... I just can't see that argument made with a straight face). Catchers that OPS above .800 are extremely valuable and rare. Catchers that OPS over .800 in Target Field are even more so. To elaborate a bit, Mauer was 11th or 12th in OPS+ last season. Once you adjust for ballpark, his ranking jumps a lot. And that still doesn't take into account how OBP-heavy Mauer's stat line is compared to most players, which jumps his ranking even more. Then factor in his catching and it jumps even more... Anyway, I think we mostly agree here, I'm just a little higher on Mauer than you are. I think this season will be very telling. If he catches 100+ times and OPSes between 850 and 900, his value is a top 20 player. If he DHes 50 or more games, then his value drops considerably. As for salary, I tend to ignore it. Mauer is paid a lot and is a very good player, probably a first-ballot HoFer if he does this for 3-4 more years before tailing off. It'd be nice if Mauer "put the team on his back" but I'm not even really sure what that means. To me, putting a team on your back is going out there and performing at a level unrivaled by the rest of the team. And Joe already does that, so I don't put a ton of stock into it. He's not a ra-ra guy. I'm not a ra-ra guy either so I probably skew toward not caring about that as much as some people. And FTR, BBTN is mind-numbingly dumb. I tend to put zero stock in almost anything they say.