Twins Daily Admin Verified Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.com/content.php?r=1745-Caleb-Thielbar-Promoted-Kyle-Gibson-Next
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I couldn't be happier for Thielbar. I love stories like this, and another local story. He's been terrific, especially in those last 8 outings when he's gone 11.1 innings and given up just 4 hits, walked 5 and struck out 15. As for Friday, I think the easy pick is Gibson since it is on his scheduled pitching day, and we'll find out probably Thursday. However, with two guys able to go on the 60 Day DL, it's also very much possible that they could add Sam Deduno, PJ Walters or even Andrew Albers to the 40 man to make a couple of starts.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I agree with Seth, we don't know it will be Gibson. And this is how a MLB team should be managing the roster, using AAA for depth as appropriate. Nice job of that.
Highabove Provisional Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Two years ago, I was watching Thielbar at Midway Stadium, quite a story.Mark Hamburger is another live arm who is on the Saints roster this year.I hope the Twins are taking a close look.
Twins Daily Admin Verified Member Posted May 20, 2013 Author Posted May 20, 2013 I couldn't be happier for Thielbar. I love stories like this, and another local story. He's been terrific, especially in those last 8 outings when he's gone 11.1 innings and given up just 4 hits, walked 5 and struck out 15. As for Friday, I think the easy pick is Gibson since it is on his scheduled pitching day, and we'll find out probably Thursday. However, with two guys able to go on the 60 Day DL, it's also very much possible that they could add Sam Deduno, PJ Walters or even Andrew Albers to the 40 man to make a couple of starts. What kind of odds would you need to get to bet $20 that it won't be Gibson?
StormJH1 Verified Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I totally admit I hadn't heard of Thielbar until just now, but having looked up his track record in the minors, it looks excellent. You could argue that he's been a bit old for each level of the minors he's been at, but a lefty with decent control that strikes out 9.0 K/9 (or better) in the minors...what's not to like? Anyone (Seth?) know what his stuff is like? Decent velocity? Does he have a second pitch he can miss bats with?
joeboo_22 Verified Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I believe he has a low 90's fast ball with a very good curve ball
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I couldn't be happier for Thielbar. I love stories like this, and another local story. He's been terrific, especially in those last 8 outings when he's gone 11.1 innings and given up just 4 hits, walked 5 and struck out 15. As for Friday, I think the easy pick is Gibson since it is on his scheduled pitching day, and we'll find out probably Thursday. However, with two guys able to go on the 60 Day DL, it's also very much possible that they could add Sam Deduno, PJ Walters or even Andrew Albers to the 40 man to make a couple of starts. Odds are, it's Gibson because of the 40-man issue. If they had found some damage in Wood's shoulder, maybe. But the MRI came in clean. So they probably don't want to 60-day DL him.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 From the Fargo Forum: Twins call up former SDSU pitcher Thielbar | INFORUM | Fargo, ND How can this team seriously justify demoting Pedro Martinez!!!
jay Provisional Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Odds are, it's Gibson because of the 40-man issue. If they had found some damage in Wood's shoulder, maybe. But the MRI came in clean. So they probably don't want to 60-day DL him. He's already been on the DL for the entire season, so he's already filled up most of the 60 days. I don't see much harm in move if they need a roster spot. The only downside would be the need to get him back on the 40-man to call him up.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Someone told me that Thielbar is reminiscent delivery-wise to Perkins. He's a low-90s guy with a couple of pitches. He's a little wild at times. I think he's similar to Duensing, which I think any team would be happy to take. Can't make too much out of whatever he shows over these three or four days, but it's exciting. He came back aggressive. I talked to him at Twins Fest, and I'll have to check my transcription. Great story!
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Congrats to Thielbar, what a great story. Super thrilled for him, really. It's great.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 What kind of odds would you need to get to bet $20 that it won't be Gibson? My money is on Walters.....pitched well on Saturday night....
YourHouseIsMyHouse Provisional Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Could be Gibson, but he hasn't pitched consistently well.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 Looking at their stat lines in Rochester, Gibson and Walters are pretty close so far. Both have gone deep in games, which is what the Twins staff so desperately needs. I'm hoping Gibson but guessing Walters.
Oldgoat_MN Verified Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 How much longer would Gibson have to stay in AAA for the Twins to have another year of control? Gotta be so close now that they would wait if the time hasn't already passed.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 I like the fact that the Twins pay attention to their own back-yard. Minnesota isn't a baseball hot-bed, but if you corner this market, you might get a h-o-f'er or two. Minnesota ball players seem to roost as well, although toward the end of hallowed careers. Still, Winfield, Molitor, Morris, Mauer, Steinbach, perhaps Perkins, that's a pretty nice welcome mat to roll out to Minnesota prospects.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted May 20, 2013 Posted May 20, 2013 They do need a starter for the next Hernandez start. Gibson is on the exact schedule. I really do not see anyone else coming up...
goulik Verified Member Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 One source I found said Thielbar was hitting 92 MPH on his fast ball last year. He throws primarily a fast ball/ curve combo and has been working on a change up
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 I hope the Twins aren't using AAA stat lines to decide who is ready to be called up to the starting rotation. The only measures that might be stable at this point are ground ball rate, fly rate (70 balls in play) and K/PA (70 PA). W/PA may be close to stable (170 PA). Those numbers towards stabilization are at the major league level. My guess is the increased variability in the minors would increase those levels. That doesn't mean the decision on who is most ready to be called up can not be performance based. It should be. It only means that the assessment of those that have seen every game and pitch should carry the weight. There is no way anyone who has not regularly seen these guys pitch can make a reliable assessment based on 2013 numbers.
snepp Verified Member Posted May 21, 2013 Posted May 21, 2013 How much longer would Gibson have to stay in AAA for the Twins to have another year of control? Negative 30 days. They passed that point a month ago.
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