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  1. The minor league teams in the 90s was pretty great. Mientkiewicz, Cristian Guzman, Luis Rivas, David Ortiz, Torii Hunter, A.J. Pierzinski, J.C. Romero, Jacque Jones.
  2. Perhaps. But the book likely isn't written on him yet. When it is, they will attack his weaknesses relentlessly and we'll have to see how he responds.
  3. It takes time to refine your hitting skills even for the AA level. Even with a tremendous talent like Buxton, you don't just throw him into the majors and think he'll develop. Players need to be challenged but still be put in a position where they can succeed. Plus, the more time you waste on Buxton developing in the majors, the more service time you waste.
  4. Putting Buxton in AA for three months this season would be a mistake, no question. He's riding a high right now, that doesn't mean he couldn't be challenged and tested in the league he's currently in. Maybe he's not seeing many breaking balls yet, or off-speed pitches. A mid-season promotion to high A will be just fine for where you'd expect a player of his talent and production. He doesn't need to spend anytime in AA this year. He can start the year in AA next year, and if he's still hitting really well he'll get his cup of coffee at the end of the year in 2014, and that should be the absolutely best case scenario.
  5. Regarding Sano vs Arcia, if Sano ends up moving off of third base would he really have less defensive value than Arcia does now? If he does, it will be slight. If Sano can play a respectable third base, he'll likely have much more defensive value than Arcia. Sano does have contact issues, but Arcia has severe power issues compared to Sano. Most scouting reports I've read state that Sano has the hit tool to utilize his power. He probably will not ever be a .300 hitter but he could be a .270 hitter, combine that with a good on base percentage and potential 40 home run power and it should be pretty clear why Sano is listed unanimously as the much better prospect. Also, it should be noted that right handed hitters actually take a bit longer to develop than left handed hitters, so you should take that into account.
  6. Rosario is a 5 tool player? Being a 5 tool player doesn't change based on what position you play, it just means you aren't utilizing all of your tools depending on the position. He has the hit tool, he is on the fringe of having the power tool, but I'd be willing to bet that his power tool is more in line with league average, which is still good! In fact, I'd say Rosario is probably a 1-2 tool player, but the rest of his tools are near in line with league average which makes him a very good prospect.
  7. the arb/super 2 game is a different discussion. I'm specifically talking about the ridiculous arguments that 'if Trout/Harper played for the Twins they would only be in A ball right now'. There seems to be this myth that the Twins don't promote fast enough thru the rk/A/AA levels. If some had their way any decent prospect would be promoted after a month of decent production similar to what the Mets did with so many prospects. Aside from a couple of college pitchers like Slowey/Garza/Gibson there have not been any prospects (that I can think of) that deserved to be fast tracked. I definitely agree with this. A lot of people are very critical of the Twins promotion methods, but as you said we just haven't had the type of prospects that you aggressively promote. Arcia has been promoted fairly aggressively but there's a reason for that.
  8. Kevin Goldstein and Jason Parks have said that the White Sox have the worst farm system in the minors. Their best prospect is a relief pitching prospect. The fact that we didn't even get a top prospect in that system isn't encouraging.
  9. Trout is getting Mickey Mantle comps thrown at him, most teams wish they had a guy like that.
  10. Well, for starters he's a 5 tool player, so he has 5 tools. A tool doesn't have to be 80 in order to be good, 80 is obscenely good. We're talking about raw tools here, what are his present tools? I'm not sure how to rank him as I've never really seen him play but according to scouting reports he's a five tool player. A guy that shows legit power in BP (not Sano but probably 60 power), and is beginning to show it here. If scouts say he's a 5 tool player, they think his bat tool is above average as well. We're talking about tools that are still a bit raw. I mean, Sano may have 80 raw power but he sure as hell doesn't have 80 in game power presently.
  11. The rest of the prospect world hasn't quite caught up, but I think Hicks is probably the best player in our system right now. He has the elite tools to be as good as anyone in the system, with a possible exception of Byron Buxton. Hicks is hitting quite well. Combine that with the other things he does really well and his proximity to the majors and I'd put him #1. Arcia is close though.
  12. I don't think there is any legitimate basis for this. Bone graft tests, which aren't perfect but are telling indicated he had to be 16-17 when he signed. At least, there's no legitimate basis for it outside of the typical concern that you'd have for player's signed out of the Dominican Republic.
  13. I saw it on Amazon.com yesterday. It was very well done. Pittsburgh ends up looking really bad in this movie with the way they tried to strong arm Sano into signing with them.
  14. What about arm? Not everyone who has hitting power has throwing power. Also, glove is the only one that's a bit different. It relates to the raw athletic traits a guy has that could make him a good defender at a specific position. That's not why plate discpline isn't a tool, and I don't think what you're saying is entirely accurate. Plate discipline isn't a physical ability. It's important to developing a good hitter, but it isn't a tool.
  15. No one said the 5 tools account for everything. The 5 tools are mostly supposed to represent things that aren't learned. They are considered to be physical talents, for the most part. Taking walks and having a great eye at the plate is very important but doesn't really factor into the 5 tools. Revere is still a three tool player, funny enough two of those tools are probably 80s (run and glove) and his hit tool is probably close to an 80 as well. The fact that his power is a 20 is the biggest limiting factor. You're right that he'd be a lot more valuable if he could walk at average rates, I'm not really sure what the secret is for him to do that. Maybe he's just too good at putting pitches in the zone in play.
  16. I'm not surprised. I hadn't crunched the numbers but I knew that Gallo was going to be a more expensive sign.
  17. Sickels didn't write that, Matt Garrioch did. The only guy that we didn't sign in this draft that I'm interested in watching is Joey Gallo right now. He's absolutely destroying rookie league, granted it's rookie league and he's young but hot damn if he isn't tearing things up. We would have had to pass on Berrios to sign Gallo anyway so I'm not sure that would have been the best idea, but I'll still be watching Gallo to see how he does in the coming years.
  18. Why is contact half of a tool? That's a whole tool. Plus his defense is a tool, so he's a three tool player and yes, a lot of what he does with those three tools is contingent on his speed tool. It really hurts him that his power and arm tools are probably 2s.
  19. I don't know how much a hitting coach impacts the performance of a hitter. Ultimately, I suppose a lot of it really depends on how well a hitter implements the changes that they are given. He's not going to turn turds (which is mostly what resides at AAA) into gold, I don't think any hitting coach past, present, or future will be capable of that. I do know that Brunansky started with this organization in 2010 with the Twins rookie league team and is now the hitting coach of their AAA affiliate. That speaks pretty highly to his abilities. Brunansky never coached Plouffe, my mistake. The fact is that Aaron Hicks has been a very toolsy player with legit 5 O'clock power since he's been drafted, but he hasn't done very well to convert his hitting tools into in game action, though he is making strides this year. I assume that he'd benefit from what is probably the best level of hitting instruction that we have in the minors. Do you disagree with that?
  20. I know, but I believe Revere had mentioned working with Brunansky specifically, he helped to make his swing more compact and tweaked a couple other things. Either way, Brunansky is a good hitting coach. Hicks will benefit from his instruction.
  21. I'm interested to see if Tom Brunansky can get even more out of Aaron Hicks in AAA next year, given his recent success with guys like Plouffe and Revere. This recent performance with Hicks has been very reassuring after last season.
  22. I guess it depends on how close the person on the losing team is to the other guys on the winning teams. If the difference is negligible or the guy on the winning team is just slightly worse than I could see an argument, depending upon their performance in clutch situations, or their impact on the last month of the season. I really don't think Trout would be in high A if he were on the Twins, I could see him in AA or AAA though. He's been absolutely fantastic from the moment he was drafted. He's never really struggled at any level outside of the first couple hundred of major league at bats he had last year.
  23. MVP is really a measure of, or at least should be, the best player in the league. Mike Trout can be that even if his team were not to make the playoffs.
  24. and it shouldn't. One player, even MVP caliber ones, aren't always enough to get a team into the playoffs.
  25. He would have a very strong argument, though Hamilton could win it as well depending upon how healthy he is. Trout is just unreal though. Generational talent.
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