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Again, I didn't say this, so if you want to continue the debate it would be best to stop putting words in my mouth. I said buyout Nolasco, as in release.. DFA. I never said they could get a prospect for him, so where did you get the quotes from
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It's odd to even bring the name Andrew Miller up if you didn't want to create some sort of parallel. Excuse me for being confused. Again, you seem awful certain about this generate a better return that Tommy Milone, when the only evidence we have for is his value is for Ricky Nolasco and Alex Meyer "less of a chance than finding an ocean in Arizona". I'm disagreeing based on what we actually know about his value, not what I want to believe his value is. Also, Target field is more of a home run park than Anaheim. So we'll see how his home run rate does here.
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I'm not a Pohlad pocket protector, so I would've preferred buying out Nolasco to including a prospect to rid themselves of the contract. I would've liked to see Meyer in the Twins bullpen in 2017. Where did I say he could get a stud catcher or shortstop?
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Right, he could net something like a bad contract and a pitcher that has as much chance of figuring it out as me finding an ocean in Arizona, according to the post I was replying to. Every player in baseball could be traded, we just saw that with Nolasco pairing with a prospect to go out the door. The point I am trying to make is lets not act like on one hand, Meyer is a nothing prospect, and Nolasco is the worst pitcher in baseball... but on the same hand, the guy we got for them is going to be the missing piece or flipped for someone worthwhile. The Angels are taking a flier on Meyer, they gave up Santiago because they know he's nothing special and didn't have better options to deal him
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You are missing the point. You can still say the same about Ricky Nolasco. He didn't generate a return, Alex Meyer did.
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By writing this "I'm not saying they would get an Andrew Miller return. But.." led me to believe you think he has real trade value. I would put him in the category of Tommy Milone trade value
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The Angels have seen Hector Santiago for 2 years, and thought it was worth giving him up for Nolasco and Meyer (who according to you has no chance of figuring it out)... but he has some immense trade value? Color me skeptical
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We've seen what Tommy Milone's value has been around the league the last couple of years, and we've now seen what Santiago's value is. Flipping him for anything of value seems like a long shot at best
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I didn't buy into the Meyer as a starter steam that started up again with a few good starts this April. But yeah, I imagined him as one of the better bullpen options next Spring. Who knows about the Shoulder, if the Angels were comfortable with it I imagine the injury isn't too bad.
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I don't have a huge issue with giving up Meyer either, but this team doesn't lack #5 starters so I'm not sure why Santiago was a need
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Because he gave up Meyer to get something back. I think it's likely Santiago performs better than Nolasco (not a high bar to clear), but lets not act like Nolasco brought back Santiago.. Meyer did
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Duffey back to the rotation, Milone to the pen
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If Milone is going to the pen so they have another lefty, then get Boshers off the team already and get Chargois up. -
Right, they could've DFA'd Nolasco. Essentially instead of choosing that option, they traded Meyer for Santiago. I'm far from sold on Meyer ever figuring it out, but its certainly possible, and this deal could be a big loss if he does.
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I think "fine with it" is a good way to put it. I'm shocked at the people bending over backwards to congratulate Antony. They are still paying the same amount of money next year and Santiago is no sure thing to be anything more than a #5 starter
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I'm curious how he changed your mind? Did you think he was incapable of making a trade? Running this organization takes a hell of a lot more than flipping Abad for a wild fireball reliever. I thought all 3 trades were ok to good, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Antony will not be in charge by October, but potentially he can be an asset for 2017 while the new Pres/GM gets acclimated. If Alex Meyer turns out to be a shutdown reliever, which is absolutely possible, I'll wonder how "creative" that trade was.
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That report was false. He was told not to even come to the park
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
alarp33 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Did you see I specifically only commented on his defense and leading a young pitching staff? Read again They would trade for him because currently he's an offensive upgrade for some teams. Also, I wouldn't have expected a big return- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
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Anything is better than nothing, and I believe I only said he was a terrible defensive catcher, in reply to a post that was specifically saying he should be kept around for his defense- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
alarp33 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Because he has been a terrible defensive catcher and the Twins have the worst ERA in baseball with him as their catcher? That leadership would be sorely missed?- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
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I'll give him a C+. Really nothing to the Abad or Nunez deals, they flipped them for decent returns (I would've done both but I'm not going to give much credit). Not trading Suzuki or Kintzler is a big swing and a miss for me.- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
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I don't buy the "catcher trade market waiting on Lucroy" at all. Who gives a bleep what the market for Suzuki is, he's meaningless for the next 2 months, send him to Cleveland for their 12th best prospect and call it a day.- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
alarp33 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
You don't have to trade him. But there's really no reason not to trade him.- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
alarp33 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Fernando Abad. Already 30 and couldn't even get a Major League deal last offseason. Meh.- 553 replies
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Pat Light. Reliever that should be up soon Per MLB... Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 40 | Splitter: 55 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45 Light set a Monmouth record with 102 strikeouts in 2012 and became the highest-drafted player in school history that June, going 37th overall that June. He had little success early in his pro career, missing most of his first full season with a torn hamstring and getting shellacked as a starter in Class A Advanced in 2014. But added velocity, the return of his best secondary pitch and a move to relief got him on track last year, when he rose to Triple-A. His fastball began reaching triple digits at the end of 2014 and did so more often last season, when Light usually dealt at 94-98 mph with very heavy life. His heater is extremely difficult to lift, generating plenty of swings and misses and groundouts. He took off when the Red Sox let him resume throwing his nasty splitter, a mid-80s offering that tumbles at the plate. Light struggled as a starter because his slider and since-scrapped changeup were unreliable, as was his command. He has trouble at times repeating his mechanics and struggled to do so after he got to Triple-A last June. He made his big league debut this April but will need to improve his control and command to serve as a high-leverage reliever.- 553 replies
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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread
alarp33 replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Suzuki will be a FA in 2 months and the Twins are in last place. A bucket of balls would be an offer worth taking (but of course they can do better than that). Kintzler is a dime a dozen relief pitcher that might never have even minimal value again after this deadline- 553 replies
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