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  1. Take a picture folks. We had a shift on
  2. The Rays sideline guy... interviewed Joe Maddon after commercial break. Q: Why is Zobrist playing 2nd today? A: Well Moore and Hellickson are fly ball pitchers but the Twins put the ball on the ground more than most teams. Seems to be working so far
  3. Ya I love the logic there. Team full of slap hitters, one or two power guys (cuddy, Morneausy) wanna move the fences in. Selfish
  4. Rays announcer: 40 games in which Twins starters have failed to go 5 innings. Make that, 41
  5. Yes the FO pandered to the rubes who after 2011 contructed a toughness dichotomy whereby Mauer, Morneau were 'softies' and Pavano, Capps, Nathan, were 'tough guys.' The FO was and continues to be in denial regarding their susceptibility to the current league-wide TJ epidemic. In reality, the Twins are as immune to broken elbows as Aunt Jemima is immune to diabetes. If the doctors hastened to perform TJ then the blame falls to the soft-tossing contact philosophy and thus the FO who preaches it at all levels of the system.
  6. The convnience you're ignoring is the absolute objective WAR, where Liriano is comparable to Sanchex, or even faborable. He's also lefthanded, and poichting in the American league. 2 more slices in his favor. True Infante is a valuable piece but only valuable in the replacemenent sense. Not much upside there from the 30 y/o perennial .713 part time outfielder / bench player.
  7. Why the F are we bunting with the .310 speed demon guy with 2 outs?
  8. No, I don't. Maybe i'mve, dumb. Twins bullpen is solid, getting to it, with a lead, is the problem.
  9. I'll say it was realistic, on the same basis of information you have atm - nothing. Hernandez is a much lousier pitcher than Liriano. All of the downside, none of the upside. There is ample evidence to suggest that allowing Liriano increased liberty with his slider would increase value "immediately," as the CWS claim and which is - something amenable to strikeouts and therefore contrary to pitch to contact / Anderson=Pohlad theory. Still, the issue which no one has even addressed - disproportionality. How does Liriano net a bag of balls compared to no. 1 and No. 2 prospects (plus 2+ more prospects) not warrant an inquiry? I think you defenders are naive. Liriano was not Greinke / Hamels, but he was on the tier of Sanchez (arguably, a tier above). Jr. blew it, plain and simple. No reason Liriano should have been traded after Sanchez.
  10. Damn near perfect bunt Nice try Danny
  11. Atta boy, Fien. Throw him the hard fastball on 3-2, make Alexei hit it. Different flavor of guile there, but still guile.
  12. oops wrong thread
  13. See intermediate comments. the assertion is not that Greinke=Liriano. If anything, Liriano ~=~ Sanchez (who caught the Tigers No. 2 overall prospect - a much better farm than CWS too). It is the disproportion raising flags. Even the Astros go the Pirates 8th best prospect (better farm than CWS) for a 33 y/o who's career WAR compares closely to Liriano's.
  14. One thing you can never accuse Gardy or the Twins coaches of... using transparent catching signals. Mauer has run through a number of combined signals, including 2 sets: 1 on the body, and a 2nd subsjequent, on the fingers. Very tough to figure out quickly.
  15. CWS defense is so bad, not even elementary baserunning biffs can destroy a rally.
  16. Mauer's 2012 spluits: .322/.405/.448 vs RHP .340/.445/.443 vs. LHP Better than 90% of switch hitters
  17. No one claimed Liriano was a consistently great pitcher like Greinke or Hamels. He is still, overall, an above average pitcher, and lefthanded, and comparable in objective value (WAR) to Sanchez (Liriano has actually been more valuable since 2006). The haul is disproportional, and it signals that Jr. mishandled the situation. The difference with Milwaukee, is that the Brewers were not selling Greinke so much as trying to re-sign him. With Florida, they had, and are having a firesale. The Twins are putting Span, Willingham, Morneau on ebay with an unrealistically high minimum researve. But Liriano they seemingly dumped on the curb and slapped a cardboard "4 sale" sign on him. This from the team whose biggest clearest weakness is starting pitching. To negotiate effectively you have to be willing to walk away, and instead Jr's FO did everything to indicate that the Twins were not going into August with Liriano on the staff.
  18. The rental they traded for a club's number one prospect and two pitchers of Hernandez's quality, if not better. How much marginal value over 12 starts does Greinke provide to Liriano? I'll put the over under at one, with a distinct possibility Liriano has a better final 2 months then Greinke outright. The Brewers frisked the Angels by posturing as pursuers and offered Greinke just below market value. The Twins did the exact opposite - excluded themselves from the pool of Liriano pursuers, softened the buyer market, and got a bag of balls for a guy who will probably be only marginally less valuable than Greinke or Sanchez over the next 12 starts.
  19. The Brewers did it.
  20. We knew Liriano wanted to test free agency. So, what harm is there in calling a meeting, lowballing him, having it rejected, and then letting Twitter pick up the fact that the Twins are pursuing an extension with him? Instead, we get Jonathan Stark, saying the likelihood of Twins trading Liriano is 100%. In other words, lowballers welcome.
  21. There is of course the option to float rumors of extending Liriano so as to bait potential buyers, rather than desperately shopping him to anyone who will listen.
  22. Do you think TR considers 2 players currently on a MLB roster to be low ball, high ceiling prospects? What he has done is in direct contradiction to what you claim he said he was after.
  23. His line that game is not what I tried explaining. I shared my observations of his "stuff" since that 1 appearance is the only thing freely available at this (if you have mlb.tv). If you have a milb.tv account then by all means tell us what we saw on 7/18 was slower, flatter, and more hittable than what is typical. Everyone knows Liriano will have days like Hernandez had, but he will have days where he is unhittable due to his raw stuff being better. Also the White Sox are purported to believe they can 'fix' Liriano. Based on a comparison of velocity and action, Hernandez will have days where he is shelled and no days where he is lights out, and can't be fixed due to far less talent. Hernandez is cheaper and walks fewer hitters, that's it.
  24. See prior comments. He said the opposite as well, and traded thusly. Its clear his intention was to get a replacement level AAA type pitcher with few hours on the arb. clock.
  25. There is no leak yet of what Jr. turned down from other orgs - we can presume, based on prior comments to the media, that Jr weeded out lower ball, higher ceiling prospects in favor of the "ready to go" route and thus traded for 2 players who were currently on a MLB roster. Certainly no other club offered him that. We can't argue that other offers were "better" but we can bust him for the faulty approach which targets your typical low-budget patchwork of players that have failed for 21 years running.
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