Just like the shinny new out door stadium , the fans of Minnesota want nothing more then to cheer for there teams , especially if the owners are willing to live up to there promises, signing both these guys would have driven up season ticket sales, and increased attendance, while i wouldnt expect them to go 29 -12 pitching with last years Twins defense, I would expect a 10-12 game swing directly from there efforts, and I would also expect the rest of the pitchers to step up there game,getting us to a .500 club and with that i would expect an additional 600-700,000 in attendance , maybe they wouldnt pay for them selfs, maybe ownership would have to cough up an extra 6-10 million per season...but to me it aint **** compared to having a chance to knowing your gona get bent over game after game..it also is ...they would ABOUT pay for themselfs