What are you talking about? I never appealed to Ryan to back up my position. I just said he is probably right more often than any of us, including me. And that was in response to someone asking if we should believe him - not necessarily in response to anything specific about my point.
Fair enough but I also come from the school of thought that there are only 10-15 or so top of the rotation guys. So in that sense you can be above average and still be a backend type.
Yes pick and choose. I don't agree with everything Ryan says or does that would be silly. I respect the man and think he is a damn good GM but I'm not a robot.
I suppose on the issue in question (the depth of the free agent starting pitcher last offseason and his description of it as thin) it is quite easy to examine the list and come to your own conclusion. I agree with his assessment.
I would argue that 3-4 total guys above backend status represents a lack of good options. There are 30 teams in baseball, including many that would be more desirable than teams coming of consecutive 90 loss seasons.
I stand corrected - the clearly robust free agent pitching market that included one top of the rotation guy, one decent 2-3 type, a 3-4 type or two and a bunch of backend guys. Huge depth there. Just because Terry Ryan says something doesn't automatically mean it's wrong.
Well sure some of the 30 will do better than who the Twins signed. Some will do worse, some will get hurt and most will probably do similar. I think it is easy to criticize who was signed, pretty much anyone they signed was going to be criticized - mostly because it was going to be underwhelming because of the nature of the poor free agent class.
It was aa good read but my big takeaway is that advanced pitching numbers quantify what is and always has been obvious. More strikeouts and groundballs, less walks and home runs. Truly groundbreaking stuff.
Twins also did it for a decade. And if you haven't noticed the Twins are breaking in and seeing what they have with many young players. While also trying to win! I congratulate posters for taking the controversial stance that the Twins should sign quality free agents. I still think this is raging against a hypothetical. Closet analysis shows how few quality free agents there actually were last offseason.
The more we talk this out the more I think signing a FA pitcher for the length required at that price at that stage of their career is a risk that is better off avoided. There could be exceptions but Greinke and Sanchez were not it.
The Adam Johnson pick was unfortunate but to say it is going to haunt them for decades is a little unfair. The 2000 draft was historically awful. Wainwright and Utley were the only big leaguers worth anything to go in the first round. Sure it would be nice to have those two but if the team only had a 7% on hitting on a contributor in that round can't fault them a whole lot.
I agree we are arguing a moot point but probably for different reason than you. I still believe it would have taken 8/200 to get Greinke and 6/120 to get Sanchez and I wouldn't touch either of those contracts available money or not. The more I have researched Greinke as this debate has gone the more I would avoid him. Locking up his 9th-15/16th years seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Gibson pitches tonight for Rochester. Wouldn't be surprised at all if his next start is at Target Field. Hernandez can have a role, just needs to be a LOOGY.
Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment but I like him. I agree he should probably do an inning or two less a night, but I don't mind him as a change of pace and he and Provus have pretty good chemistry.