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  1. To address your actual comment, Kansas City really threw in a lot of redundancy and stagnation in their system. I understand that a lot of names were there, but Myers and Odorizzi were the headline players in the deal, and for 2 years of Shields and a cost-controlled Wade Davis, I can get why they did that. Mike Montgomery had really stagnated in their system after surgery and Patrick Leonard was really a throw-in prospect that the Rays were hoping would bloom (and early returns are pretty poor). Price is a more elite-talent pitcher, but Shields has proven to be one of the most (if not THE most) durable pitchers in the game, so it depends on what you value in making a proposal. If I'm the Rays talking with the Twins, for example, I try to get one of Buxton/Sano in the deal, and then push for Alex Meyer, knowing I'll likely end up "settling" for a Berrios type as the secondary piece behind Sano/Buxton. Then, you add in probably one more top 15-20 prospect, and you're at a reasonable proposal. A team like the Braves can offer more "major-league ready" talent in a deal, but would have to offer more prospects because of the lack of guys like Buxton/Sano in their system.
  2. It's an old BYTO meme, sorry for those who weren't familiar.
  3. Trade rumor fail: does not include Duensing.
  4. They could, especially with the expected influx of income from the new stadium, but it'd sure help if a new owner stepped up and bought out Liberty Media because they have no incentive to fight the current TV deal (rated the 2nd worst television contract in MLB by Sports Business Journal) whereas a new owner would likely be looking to start new and prefer the opportunity at higher income over the stability of a set contract. The Braves have only the money they put forth this offseason going forward, and most of those contracts will leave plenty of spending room to fill out a roster. It will be interesting to see how the money starts to work going forward as they anticipate their new stadium's revenues.
  5. Unless they intend to seek out a penalty, they can tell you today what they will have for cash for the draft and international signings. Moving Correia wouldn't change that amount. That said, I don't want to get into a whole other money and utilization of those resources debate.
  6. I would agree, but I'm not sure they'll get a good enough return for him to move him in season.
  7. This would make a lot of sense, and both sides speculated that the fit would be right, centered around a package headlined by either Gattis or Bethancourt along with Lucas Sims and Joey Terdoslavich with a few more final pieces to be added. In fact, the Rays and Braves had some heavy talks around the deadline last year with a similar framework, but the Rays would not allow the Braves to talk with Price regarding an extension before the trade was finalized. That's apparently paramount for the Braves before they'd make a move for Price, and with the price it'd cost (pun unintentional, but it works!), I completely agree with that stance. At this point, the Braves wouldn't make the move for him midseason, I don't believe. It doesn't work with their budget or team-building philosophy. I'm not even sure if there's room for Price in the current budget.
  8. If it doesn't happen before the first pitch of opening day, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't pitch the entire season with the Rays.
  9. I'm pretty sure I'd take Jake Odorizzi over Correia any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
  10. While I know not many here are familiar with guys like David Hale, the Braves have guys in place that will certainly put up a league average line at #5. Frank Wren has also said that the team is done acquiring "veteran" players in multiple quotes after the Beachy news, so I'd wager to say if he's going to make a move, it will be for someone like Carlos Carrasco or Randall Delgado, guys out of options that could start the season in the rotation and either win the spot outright or do well moving to the bullpen. I would say that rather than Correia, he'd have some interest in Diamond, Worley, or Deduno if they're not going to make the squad, but I don't see Diamond or Worley transitioning well to a bullpen role, and Deduno has enough unknowns in his line that he may not do well with that transition either.
  11. Frank Wren was on the radio after the Santana signing, and Beachy was already struggling, and he talked about how the team still had 7 starters without Beachy that he'd be comfortable going into the season with once they had Santana on board. There's some rumor going around that Randall Delgado may be in play going back to the Braves as well, and while I think his future is as a reliever to maximize his value, he could certainly be an effective #5 that threw up numbers in the NL East.
  12. You mean with only Raffy Furcal, Javy Lopez, Odalis Perez, Bruce Chen, Julio Teheran, Vinny Castilla, Martin Prado, Yunel Escobar, Elvis Andrus, Jair Jurrjens, and a host of bench/bullpen pieces like Eddie Perez, Gregor Blanco, and Luis Avilan? They're still sitting pretty good.
  13. The Braves have gotten more WAR per dollar spent in Latin America than any team in the National League in the last 20 years. Their development of international signings and undrafted prospects is quite heralded throughout baseball. Correia is not better than what they have right now, and that's just pure and simple. The Twins would be overjoyed if they could get a 15-20 Braves prospect for Correia, but it's simply not going to happen without something major happening to another pitcher in the rotation, and if that happened, I would wager you'd hear them linked strongly with guys like Jeff Smardzija, Josh Beckett, or even swinging for the fences in Chris Sale or David Price, not pursuing subpar starters like Correia.
  14. If a top 15-20 Twins prospect was included, that'd be a possibility.
  15. Garcia and Hale both produced for the Braves last year. Hale is better than you're assuming. I think you're mistaken on the Braves and their feelings toward both players.
  16. Excellent move for the Twins. Local guy, effective in his job, and now signed cheap into the point where his 40 saves don't constitute 70% of the team's wins in a season.
  17. The Braves would be looking for someone low, low-cost to replace Beachy. They did come into the spring with 7 starters competing for 5 spots, though, and that was before Floyd returns in May/June, so they're still sitting okay, just not with near the depth they had. Their current rotation sits along the lines of: Minor Teheran Santana Wood Hale, with Garcia starting the season in either Minor or Santana's spot. The Braves don't have a need for a 5th starter for an extended time into the season, and if they did, there's a large group in AAA that would be able to make a spot start as needed.
  18. I really, really, really hope you're kidding. I was trying to think of a prospect matchup for Correia, and it wasn't anyone on the Braves' top 30. Regarding the "weak" system, individual prospect rankings aren't always the best gauge. Jason Parks from BP recently interviewed with me, and in our exchanges, he stated that the Braves have a very upside-heavy system, specifically in their international signings. Perhaps the Braves would trade someone like Aaron Northcraft, but that's probably as deep as it'd go.
  19. Interesting takes here. I can tell you that Frank Wren has said that outside of an "impact" player, the payroll is maxed out, and Correia is just not a pitcher that would interest the Braves. They have three guys just like him in AAA that have already been sent to minor league camp. Sorry to burst the bubble.
  20. Vasquez is a guy I've had my eye on in dynasty style leagues for a while. He's got big power with solid defensive skills. Think a Miguel Olivo type with better ability to draw a walk, but probably similar batting average.
  21. They went above after my last view of their status. That's still a pretty steep penalty considering where they are in pool allotment this year. The Rangers would be a different story as their pool allotment will be much smaller.
  22. Thanks for the kind words on the Braves org. I rather enjoy hearing guys like Keith Law rip into their farm system as it currently sits because there are no impact guys at the top, yet they're the youngest team in the majors currently. One small thing that Hanson never had TJ. His stuff was all shoulder-related, which is a much scarier situation for any pitcher. I'm very pleased with the depth the minor league system has, and I think in a couple years guys like Victor Reyes and Jose Peraza could be elite level prospects, along the lines of where Freeman was.
  23. LOL! Not meant as a put down on the Twins' handling of the situation. I was just impressed that money seemingly was not an object for a team with such tight financial restrictions. I'm quite intrigued to see how Santana works in the NL, and especially in the NL East, which really has two lineups of any worry, and one of them is his own team.
  24. Remember that the Cubs and Rangers acquired most of that extra money. They didn't end up in the penalty (unless their numbers ended up higher than was initially reported) because they made a number of deals for IFA slot money.
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