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  1. Brock Beauchamp
    The A's and Rays would love the opportunity to threaten contraction to get a new stadium. Everything else they've tried has failed. No, the fans shouldn't shut up and take anything they don't like... On the other hand, your list is pretty damned subjective and what you consider a failure, others may view differently. What happens if the Twins are an 85 win team next season? Is Ryan still a failure? Did he just get lucky? Again, disagreement with methodology is not the same thing as failure. I think everyone on this board has disagreed with the front office at least once in the past twelve months. That doesn't mean the front office is wrong about everything they do and after his last run as GM, Ryan certainly deserves at least two years to right the ship. And again, that "inflated win total with postseason failure" could easily apply to the Oakland A's. But you don't want to do that because you like Billy Beane.
  2. Brock Beauchamp
    You're talking about the Oakland A's here, right? Because other than the modern scouting techniques, the description pretty much fits. Beane has done all of these things in the past, yet is heralded as a God by statheads. I love Beane, don't get me wrong. But if we're only going to look at rings, he's been pretty awful at it. Which is why the playoff argument is a bad one.
  3. Brock Beauchamp
    And what if Benson was a good player right now and was manning CF for the Twins? The Twins didn't trade Benson because they needed OF production. Unfortunately, that didn't pan out... for anyone. I agree with your sentiment about trading from prospect strength but I disagree with the Benson example. After all, the Twins picked up three pitchers because Ryan was willing to deal from a point of strength this last offseason.
  4. Brock Beauchamp
    Oddly enough, the Twins did rather well in later rounds. It was the first round that killed them, as strange as that seems. Teams have bad runs of drafts. It happens to even the best front offices. We could speculate all day on whether Ryan would have rebounded from those drafts but I just don't see the point. I'd prefer to talk about what he's doing now... and so far, it looks pretty good on the draft front.
  5. Brock Beauchamp
    During his tenure, for sure. His last few drafts were pretty bad. That also tends to happen when you pick in the bottom ten nearly every season for 5-6 years. The real question is whether Ryan would have adjusted his approach had he stayed as GM. And we'll never know for sure because he left the position. But now that he's back, it's pretty hard to complain about his drafts thus far. They've been pretty bold and different.
  6. Brock Beauchamp
    I think you'll be hard-pressed to find a "Terry Ryan 2012 Free Agents Fan Club" section of this forum. I give Ryan a pass in his last tenure because he had no money. I'm willing to hold my nose and disagree with him over the last offseason. But at some point, he's going to have to spend money or fans will be in open revolt. I think we can all agree on that much.
  7. Brock Beauchamp
    Has Ryan's approach stopped working? He left a winning team and came back to an awful one that is now improving. In 2-3 years, I think we'll be able to say whether his approach has stopped working. Now, I'm not agreeing with everything the man has done. I hated the free agent pickups this offseason. I don't like the fact that Gibson isn't on the roster right now. There are plenty of things I don't like about this team right now and there are plenty of things I don't understand. But I'm not going to confuse "lack of information" with "that person has no game plan". It's a bit presumptuous.
  8. Brock Beauchamp
    Why would the Nationals make that trade? And why would the Twins make that trade? Aside from prospect-for-prospect deals being rare occurrences (though I think they should be more common), why incentive is there for the Twins to break up what looks to be a solid core coming through the minors at the same time? It's very rare where a team will see 3-6 impact guys hit the roster within 24 months of one another. You don't screw that up because you're bored and want to see if you can do it faster.
  9. Brock Beauchamp
    They did pick up players. Reed, Stewart, and then... mostly crap, really. Maybe I'm forgetting someone. Ryan was too cautious in the second half of the 2000s, IMO. I'm not against trading any prospect. I think it's a good idea to occasionally let a B or C prospect go to boost that year's team. Not every season, but it won't kill you if you do it every so often. But after posting on Twins forums for the past 14 seasons, there are many people who think it's a good idea to trade someone like Buxton for a run at 2014 (supposing the Twins are in contention in 2014). And that's just dumb. And it rarely works out for anyone other than the team receiving the prospect in return for the veteran.
  10. Brock Beauchamp
    The Jays are in a difficult situation that doesn't apply to the Twins. They're in the AL East. They can't let a slow trickle of prospects develop and then build a franchise over a 5-6 year period. They'll never be good enough to compete with the Yankees and Sox, so they choose a season where both the Yankees and Sox look weak and they go for it. I don't fault them for that. But the Twins don't have to play by that system. They're in the Central, a division that they can win (and remain dominant) by allowing a slow trickle of prospects to continually feed that well. Do it enough times and you will win a ring.
  11. Brock Beauchamp
    This, this, this. I hate to be the guy who yells "Scoreboard!" as proof of anything, but it needs to be done in this thread. We're not lacking in examples here. Just look at the past 20 years. It's a selective memory that forgets all those teams that pushed their chips to black and watched the ball land on red. They're far more common than those teams that actually won after risking it all. Risking it all is a bad bet, particularly on a game that relies so heavily on chance. The best team in history still lost 25% of its games. This isn't the NFL or NBA.
  12. Brock Beauchamp
    Then use the Brewers. Or the Dodgers. Or any number of teams that have banked everything on 1-2 years and absolutely collapsed because of it. The failures are far more common than the success stories.
  13. Brock Beauchamp
    Ding ding ding. Winner, winner, chicken dinner. Ask Giants fans what they thought of Sabean from 2005-2008. Or Tigers fans what they thought of Dombrowski in the early 2000s. Or As fans what they thought of Beane in the late 2000s. This argument is based on survivorship... Basically, the examination of success stories only at the time they are succeeding. Four years ago, the Twins would have been included on that list? Why? Because they were winning. That list is not constructed by philosophy, attitude, or any other metric not called "winning". Which is the wrong way to compile a list. Because winning is fleeting for anyone with tenure and a GM you would have considered good at his job three years ago is now bumped off that list because his team stopped winning. Or, in the case of Brian Sabean, that GM was the laughing stock of much of baseball after the Pierzynski trade, had a handful of losing seasons, was considered a failure, and now is on that list due to recent success. Was he an awful GM in 2004 and is now a great one? Unlikely.
  14. Brock Beauchamp
    Only nine albatross contracts? Hell, I can think of a few posters who have advocated more than that by themselves.
  15. Brock Beauchamp
    This is why last offseason was so frustrating. Hey, I understand the reasoning to not pursue Anibal Sanchez or Edwin Jackson. The Twins were a long way from competitive and they could spend $30m+ to waste 2-3 years of those players' prime years. But that doesn't mean you don't spend any money. And when this team is competitive again, they damned well better open that checkbook. There's simply no reason not to do it. I agree with the premise of "strong farm equals strong franchise". I don't believe in going for broke most of the time and rolling the dice on a single season. On the other hand, if you're not going to trade away prospects, you damned well better buy from free agents, especially if you have the money to do it. And the Twins have the money to do it.
  16. Brock Beauchamp
    There are plenty of teams that don't "go for broke" every time they have a winning season. Those teams also seem to maintain a pretty high level of competition year in and year out. That's hardly a coincidence. You can be the Brewers or you can be the Cardinals. Which would you prefer? An all-out shot at glory for 1-2 seasons (that can still ultimately fail) or a steady hand getting to the playoffs every season and then seeing what happens from there? I'll take the latter every time, as we've seen how often those "go for broke" teams fail in the playoffs. And your idea of "wallowing in the middle" is vastly different from mine. The Blue Jays perennially wallow in the middle. The Twins, on the other hand, went to the playoffs six times last decade. Would I have liked to see them walk away with a ring? Yes. Would I have liked to see a few more aggressive trades? Sure, if they made sense. This team is very conservative. But that's not only a weakness, it's also a strength and part of the reason why they were so successful in the 2000s. You may disagree with their actions but that doesn't mean the front office is stupid.
  17. Brock Beauchamp
    Quit complaining and get back to moderating.
  18. Brock Beauchamp
    Lineups: Twins: Brian Dozier 2B Joe Mauer C Ryan Doumit RF Josh Willingham DH Justin Morneau 1B Trevor Plouffe 3B Oswaldo Arcia LF Clete Thomas CF Pedro Florimon SS (Kevin Correia P) White Sox: Alejandro de Aza CF Alexei Ramirez SS Alex Rios RF Adam Dunn DH Paul Konerko 1B Conor Gillaspie 3B Dayan Viciedo LF Gordon Beckham 2B Tyler Flowers C (Chris Sale P)
  19. Brock Beauchamp
    Sounds to me like you should have tried a little harder. It worked for Nick Punto.
  20. Brock Beauchamp
    This team really tries its hardest to be completely unwatchable at times.
  21. Brock Beauchamp
    The question is "how much time". When it boils right down to it, there aren't any defensible reasons to keep Kyle in AAA. A month ago, you could make a valid argument about consistency but the guy has flat-out dominated in the past four weeks. It's time to make the call.
  22. Brock Beauchamp
    Gibson is on an innings count this season. That's why it matters. I was all for letting Kyle get some AAA innings under his belt. I think it was a prudent decision. But he doesn't need 100 AAA innings. That's just dumb.
  23. Brock Beauchamp
    The problem with Kyle Gibson is that he's not showing enough Gibson, as evidenced by his inGibson pitching early in the season. Over the past month of starts, Gibson has started to show a little more Gibson but he's not quite Gibson enough to warrant a call to Minnesota, where pitching coach Rick Anderson prizes Gibson above everything else. What Gibson needs to do is keep the ball down, focus on letting his defense play, and the Gibson problem with solve itself. Part of Gibson's Gibson problem is that he's not keeping the defense on their toes and letting the game come to him; instead, Gibson is trying to show a different kind of Gibson, and that is the ability to miss bats. While the Twins remain high on Gibson, this type of Gibson is not something they like to preach to young pitchers, for it complicates their current line of thinking, where Gibson will get more Gibson from pitching to contact. Gibson Gibson. Gibson. (thanks, snepp)
  24. Brock Beauchamp
    I'm stealing this. Everybody else should, too.
  25. Brock Beauchamp
    Hilarious.
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