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  1. No arguments that I think the Twins should have started playing the youngsters earlier, I just think the idea that they'd be markedly better is a bit overblown around here. The Twins won't be good until Buxton, Sano, Meyer, Berrios, et al are playing. Up until around June of this year, they simply didn't have the horses in the farm system to compete... Which, unsurprisingly, is when I started becoming more critical of the front office as May and Meyer stayed in the minors instead of logging MLB time. But in 2012 and 2013, the Twins simply didn't have good options anywhere. Arcia got time when he was ready, Gibson was a bit slow but they did the right thing and promoted him in 2013 and gave him innings so it's mostly a moot point. Past that, the Twins basically had three options to play: - Bad veterans - Raw minor leaguers without much talent - Awful AAAA players No matter what you do in that situation, you're going to field a bad team that isn't going to meaningfully improve because the players have a ceiling of mediocrity. Sure, I wanted to see Parmelee play more in 2013 but ultimately, it doesn't really matter because Chris Parmelee is not a very good baseball player.
  2. Oh, I wouldn't predict that the Twins leapfrog the Astros, simply pointing out there's a decent chance it happens if Sano, Buxton, Meyer, and Berrios hit the MLB squad in 2015. A lock? No. A moderate chance of happening? Sure. The Twins might graduate four top 50 prospects in 2015. That's incredible to think about.
  3. Eh, both teams finished with the same record. While I agree that the Astros are "in a better place" because they played a metric ton of young players this season, they also had a full season headstart on the Twins (not to mention three additional years of top 15 picks before that point... going into 2011, the Twins farm system was atrocious). Given that both teams finished 70-92 while the Twins farm was absolutely decimated by injury to top prospects, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Twins leap-frog the Astros in the next 24 months despite doing it with less draft picks and in a one year shorter timeframe. And if that happens, then it's pretty apparent the Twins had the more effective rebuild.
  4. While I differ in opinion about the concept of "rebuild", this isn't a fair statement. The Astros were in full-blown "we suck, we're starting over" mode when the Twins were still in the playoffs. I'd hope they are ahead of the Twins because they've been awful for a long time. The last time the Astros won more than 76 games was 2008 and they blew up the franchise in 2010 while the Twins were were facing the Yankees in the postseason after a 94 win season. Not to mention that the Astros finished this season with a 70-92 record. The very same record sported by our Minnesota Twins.
  5. My first choices as well. At first, I was deep into the pro-Molitor camp but after considering it a bit more, I've started to warm up on Mientkiewicz. He's young, can definitely relate to the young core of players, and was in the same situation as a player in 2000 when the Twins emerged from obscurity. Either is fine with me and I don't envy Ryan having to make this decision.
  6. I was sitting in Angel Stadium that night, watching the Angels face the Red Sox in the playoffs. I was wearing a Twins hat and people kept shouting updates to me. Surrounded by BoSox fans (including my friends sitting with me), we were all united against the Yankees. And then Nathan came out for a third inning. Despite the fact that the Red Sox were beating the Angels, the entire section deflated a bit because Sox fans were so desperate to see the Yankees lose (and subsequently not face them in the ALCS) that the entire section briefly became Twins fans. I was livid at Gardenhire that night.
  7. You're tilting at windmills. I didn't come into this thread swinging or anything close to it. I stated an opinion why I don't want to see the Twins emulate the Royals. That opinion happens to be different from your opinion. Yet you continue to hammer away at it. Why? This is not an argument you can win, as we fundamentally disagree on the details and being that terms like "success" are subjective, we're not going to change the other's mind.
  8. Honestly, I'm pretty open on the next manager... There are several good options out there, I just hope they choose someone who doesn't make my stomach turn (eg. Ozzie Guillen).
  9. Dude, just let it go. Seriously. We differ on opinion. That's okay.
  10. And that's fair. People have different goals and different measures of success. I lean more in the direction of "compete, then push for multiple division titles". I'm skeptical that the Royals are capable of doing that long-term.
  11. Again, I don't want to get into this argument for the umpteenth time but you're essentially arguing that James Shields is +12 wins over Wil Myers.
  12. Eh, I disagree but that's another argument in itself. With the new wildcard rules, I don't consider playing 163 games a great success.
  13. Now we just need to get Correia back in this rotation and we're ready to rock.
  14. Yeah, the team had a lot of good years with Gardy. I had as many issues with Gardy as anybody but this is still kinda sad, even though it needed to happen.
  15. Yep, and I hope he finds success in another organization. I often disagreed with Gardy's on-field practices but overall, I kinda liked him. It was time for both parties to go their separate ways and I hope there is little/no animosity there. This had to happen.
  16. I'd love to see Ryan pursue a Vargas or Arcia trade. I like both those players - I like them a lot - but the reality of the situation is that the Twins are overflowing with no-defense players and those two have the most value.
  17. It all depends on context. There are far too many variables to make a blanket statement about how long a rebuild should take.
  18. That's assuming a lot of things. Going into this season, Myers was fresh off a RotY award. Sure, he stumbled this season - partially due to injury - but it's not as if his ability has suddenly fallen off a cliff. Anyway, I'm tired of rehashing this argument. Everyone here knows my stance on the Shields/Myers trade, I see no reason to continue flogging that horse in another thread.
  19. Five years? Teams are able to go from 70 wins to 90 wins in five years all the time. But it's really hard to do it in one.
  20. Too good to even consider at this point, and I quite like Ryan as General Manager.
  21. If the Royals lose tomorrow, did it really work though? They'll have spent two years of James Shields for a one-game playoff that ended in defeat. That's not the type of rebuild I want to see the Twins emulate. Trading away the #4 prospect in baseball for a near-miss and a WC berth in this era doesn't really feel like "mission accomplished" to me. Sure, the Royals *should* be competitive next year but it's going to be really hard to replace Shields. But hey, they could win tomorrow and that makes the trade look loads better instantly... Oakland is very beatable right now. On that topic, what the hell happened to Oakland? Man, they looked so good going into the deadline and just fell apart.
  22. No, hoarding prospects isn't the right move all the time. But I believe trying to jump from 70 wins to 90 wins in a season through trades is the wrong move. If the Royals finished 2013 with 82 wins and picked up two years of David Price for Wil Myers to put them into the 90 win range in 2014 and 2015, I'd be all for it. Get to 80 wins through savvy pick-ups and internal development, then go for broke. Otherwise you're just trying to force the issue.
  23. Absolutely not. The Royals have quite a bit of talent but let's remember one important thing here: With James Shields, the Royals have won 86 and 89 games. How many are they going to win without him? They're a fringe contender with James Shields. It's going to be really hard to be better without him even if more young players step forward in 2015 and if the Royals are going to continue to make postseason appearances, they're going to need to be better than 86 and 89 wins a season.
  24. This. Giving up Sano-level talent at this point is foolish, just as I thought KC was foolish for doing it two years ago. Rebuilds take time and the Twins don't have an abundance of talent at any position, certainly not enough to start trading top prospects. If you want an "ace", go buy one. Unlike the Royals, the Twins have the money to do that. Personally, I'd bank on May, Meyer, and Berrios in 2015 and let it ride. It's time for the kids to play. If that fails spectacularly, then go find a pitcher next offseason.
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