alarp33
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I'm having trouble quoting from my iPad, but go to MLB trade rumors article on the trade, very bottom of the article
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No. What I'm saying is they agreed to keep the 2016+2017 payrolls the same, they swapped out Nolasco for Santiago but will be paying the same amount in payroll. They could've picked up all but say, the $3.5 spy cake suggested, and had a payroll in 2017 that was about $3 million less than its currently slated to be (factored in a rookie contract for say, a Mejia)
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The Twins are paying Nolasco $4 million next season, they did not cut the Angels a check for $4 million. That seems to be the disconnect were having
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I'm not getting the alien reference? The Pohlads likely aren't involved in baseball decisions, Antony couldn't have come to them and said instead of a straight salary swap (Santiago/Nilasco), we're gonna save ~$3.5 million next year?
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Again, I don't think Santiago is clearly better. If he was, I'm guessing he could've brought back more than a clearly inferior pitcher and extreme long shot Yes, Nolasco will make $12 million next year, but the Angels (or team they will hypothetically trade him to) only will be paying $8 million of that. He's not on the hook for $13, he's on the hook for $1million buyout.
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I think we're talking different things here. I mean 2017 trade deadline, if both are out there. They will be owed about the same amount of money. I have no issues with you dismissing him. Just saying, the best the Angels could do for Santiago was Nolasco and Meyer. I think around the league he is probably seen in a similar light to a Tommy Milone, very little value.
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Well in terms of next deadline, or whenever, they are making the same amount of money, since the Angels will owe Nolasco about what the Twins will owe Santiago. I'm struggling with the people who on one hand completely dismiss Meyer, and are overjoyed to be rid of Nolasco, but for some reason think Santiago is going to magically have value soon (he just got traded for Nolasco and Meyer...)
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Well I would take Meyer over Light. Was just pointing out the location issues. I replied to your other post with more thoughts. Im not excited in the least about Santiago, so I would've preferred to keep Meyer and buyout more of Nolasco
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I'm not willing to concede we have a much better starter out of it. Marginally better at best. So I also won't concede flexibility, as it relates to flipping Santiago, because I don't think he'll have value next summer either. I also would be shocked if he was non tendered, but with the new regime I guess that's possible.
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Good thing Santana is so versatile, instead of hitting him in the face that flyball may have rolled to the wall
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Meyer will be 26 until January, let's not age him too much. Pat Light can't control his pitches, even more so than Meyer, is 1 year younger and doesn't have Meyers stuff. The general consensus here was he was a good pickup (I was fine with that deal). Considering where baseball salaries currently sit, I certainly think Meyer is worth a $5million flier. 6 years control for a potential backend bullpen guy (I have no faith he is a starter long term).
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Ditto, I have not the slightest idea what th market would've been for him. I have a very hard time believing a team would've given up a higher end prospect and taken on the entire contract
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You implied no one liked any available catcher, since Norris wasn't moved either. I simply pointed out Norris is a far different case than Suzuki. No parallel. Padres had no need to move him. I'm not a Suzuki fan, but he's been a well above avg hitting catcher for 2+ months. Pierzynski comparison? He's almost 40 and has his OPS reached .500?
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I think most of us in the option Santana camp (not necessarily cut, good chance he would clear waivers) don't see modest upside. That's probably where the disagreement comes in.
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I was using baseball reference, I should have clarified earlier
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Right. He's up to a -0.4 bWAR and 81 ops+. I'm sorry I don't see any value in that when he's not the 4th Outfielder, backup infielder, a pinch hit option, or someone you would use as a defensive replacement.
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Sorry for not clarifying, the worst player in baseball since the start of 2015.. not just this seasons small sample. -2.8 bWAR
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You called it preposterous to want to cut him. He's the worst player in baseball (by WAR). He starts nearly every night.
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I'd rather see what I have got with players who have a future on this team. Its preposterous to want to cut the worst player in baseball, rather than continue to start him. Just a reminder, his Minors track record isn't much better than his Majors
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I love the "25th man" argument that we see around here on occasion, like that somehow is a positive.
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Useful, how? He can't hit, field or steal bases. Value in which way? He's been the least valuable player in baseball since the start of 2015. Yes, I am.
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55 plate appearances certainly seems like a relevant sample size. It's too bad the previous 427 PA led to a 49 wRC+ and .224/.255/.309 line. Or else we could have another Mike Trout on our hands I could play all of those positions as well, it doesn't mean I would be any good at them
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We can only dream
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Quite a few said he totally changed their minds and they would consider him for the full time job... based on trading Nunez, Nolasco, Meyer and Abad.....
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When a team has the best farm system in baseball, more resources available than anyone in baseball, and all bad contracts coming off the books just in time to line-up with perhaps the greatest FA class of all time... I think it's reasonable to conclude that they are pretty likely to be successful in the future.
