They had a lot of players in and out of the lineup during that time that are gone now. Sean Burroughs is gone, Luke Hughes, Clete Thomas, Jason Marquis. Ben Revere was in the minors then too. I think they did a lot of experimenting and it all failed. Now they have solidified the lineup. Capps and Pavano have not been a part of this winning, so we can see they are not needed. 2011, they sure put together a big steak. I do remember that.