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  1. I wonder how many players have won the dual awards before? Confirms what I saw on Sunday. Pretty impressive, and even more head-scratching evidence that belies the Twins reluctance to continue his development at the next level. As I said in the companion thread, Meyer is not very far away from having the best knee-buckling change-up, as well. http://twinsdaily.com/topic/14761-meyers-blistering-performance-leaves-little-doubt-in-louisville/
  2. Garver finished second to the Johnny Bench winner two years in a row at New Mexico, once behind Turner. Our on-site correspondent SD Buhr gives Garver's plate-work a thumbs-up at the Low-A level. It looks like it's going to take a Turner injury for Garver to catch up to him for the time being.
  3. Short rest for Milone on Saturday... May fits better, but don't forget, the jury might still be out on Kris Johnson FWIW, Monday, August 18 against Cleveland would be Pino's start and this date fits pretty well with Meyer's current schedule.
  4. Turner is probably never going to carry a big stick to the majors. But to be fair, Turner has been excellent for Ft Myers at the plate since May 25, where he's slashed a nice .294/.377/.412/.783, with a strong K/BB ratio, which suggests at least he's heading in the right direction. And given how the Twins lineup-potency projects by Turner's 2016-17 ETA, the Twins can likely afford to sacrifice a little AT the plate (unless it's Butera-Esque, of course) if they can get Molina-esque defense BEHIND the plate.
  5. Based on how differently they assessed and handled Hicks (failed twice after a AA promotion) and Santana (AAA to start out behind Florimon), Twins' management opinions aren't all that accurate for ranking purposes, either.
  6. Uhhh, how many Johnny Bench awards does Hermann have again? Behind the plate Turner is WAAAY better than Hermann, I don't think it's even close.
  7. You nailed it Tobi, at least from what I observed in his latest start- that largely accounted for the 3 walks from Sunday. I should have kept better record on the B/S for each of his 3 pitches, but I would estimate that slightly less than half of his change-ups were in the strike zone, and at least for Sunday night, about 85% of his FB were in the zone (I can't emphasize enough that he looks to have strong command at getting the FB where he wants it to be in the zone). Meyer only reached 3 ball counts in 4 out of 22 batters faced. And in all 4 cases, the lack of control of the change led to the 3 ball count- one called ball change on one PA and 2 called ball changes on 2 other PAs, also including a called ball four on a change on one of his 3 walks, plus he threw the change a couple of times on 3-ball counts that led to foul balls. (As I said, the game looked like more of a training exercise for Meyer than a competitive game- he's clearly trying to add the pitch into the mix for all situations- perhaps throwing that ball confidently on a 3-2 count is one of the criteria TR has established for Meyer to have the chance to punch his ticket?).
  8. How about small jackrabbits who came close, but no cigar, to qualifying for Honorable Mention? I know Tanner English was on the DL for most of the month.... but he was back by the end of the month...and in 31 PAs he slashed .296/.387/.481/.869. Manuel Guzman in GCL slashed .338/.430/.426/.857... in 80 PAs he had 2-2B, 2-3B, 11 BB, 7 SB. Switch hitter and plays 2B/SS. I would like to hear a little more about him to see if he might be a legit prospect or not.
  9. BullsEye! (Ed Ames would be proud). http://www.tvacres.com/images/weapon_tomahawk_ames.jpg
  10. Actually his current K/9 is 18.75 (his low point for the year), which is more than 2 batters an inning. Not sure about his lofty ranking @ #11, but he needs to be in Ft Myers or New Britain yesterday).
  11. Yep. For the record, I concur, Meyer has made the case without the Big Unit comp. But now the latest straw being grasped in holding Meyer back was the rise in BB/9 rate. The pitcher's physical similarities- the resulting command and control issues that accompany 6'9-10" guys, plus both having the ability to throw 100 MPH deep into games make the comp for this stage of their development an apt refutation of that concern. (Nothing else in the comp has been implied about Meyer being a HOF pitcher like Johnson).
  12. The numbers I derived are simple and straighforward. For now, as Nick pointed out in posting Meyer's game log, he is pretty much strictly a 6-inning pitcher. Thus, 2014 BB/9 4.42 X .667 = 2.95 walks per appearance @ 6 innings. 2013 BB/9 3.73 X .667 = 2.49 walks per appearance @ 6 innings. That's .46 more walks per game, .92 more walks per two games. Pretty inconsequential for a power pitching/ground ball pitcher, your concern for his BB/9 uptick is somewhat out of proportion to the "problem". And...taxing the pen has been an issue all season, nothing new to see here, and the guys Meyer would replace are having their own struggles pitching more than 5 innings, let alone 6 innings. We're somewhat in agreement on Meyer pitching out of the pen, except it should have already happened months ago- at this point, I think he would best benefit developmentally by getting 5-6 major league starts and then get shut down. Again, based on viewing him in person on Sunday and the seemingly effortless 91 pitches thrown vs. Louisville, he will not derive any further benefit from pitching more AAA innings.
  13. Multiple reports have been posted about the new change up and his struggles with consistency with the pitch. Plus, I got to see the pitch first hand on Sunday, my eyewitness viewing confirmed that he hasn't mastered full control of the pitch yet.
  14. I love you Doc, but you mischaracterized what I said.... that's not what I wrote, this is what was stated: Can anyone disagree that May's stuff is more pedestrian than Meyer's? You and I agree on the assessment of May, and you stated May's ceiling potential quite well. I've been a backer of May's potential for durability from Day One. And I've really been impressed with his cerebral approach in his quest to becoming a true "pitcher". I rated him at 50-50 to eventually becoming a middle-end, #3-type major league starter last season. I think that the odds have now gone up in that regard, and there's now a little light at the end of the tunnel for him in reaching his ceiling, which may be a little higher. A credit to him and the coaching staff, to be sure. But Meyer and Stewart have the chance to be true aces (and possibly Berrios, as well), there is a qualitative difference between them and May.
  15. Aneurysm in his throwing arm, which involved surgery and rest.
  16. I'm all in favor of using kid gloves for a potential future ace. But, assuming he stays on the same routine, how does Meyer more greatly risk injury by pitching his remaining innings with the Twins instead of Rochester?
  17. Great get, Steve. The evidence continues to pile up. And after watching him on Sunday, Meyer is not too far from winning a third award from BA for "Best Knee-Buckling Change-up".
  18. I don't often laugh out loud browsing the threads. Mission accomplished, Hosken!
  19. We disagree about the facts that were presented, which is fine. To me an extra walk every other game isn't a big worry when you've got a guy striking out more than one batter an inning, and has the rare ability to specifically "get" the strikeout of his choosing when the situation calls for it. Randy Johnson's minor league walk rates were bad, and they jumped for his first four years in the majors, yet, because he was the type of power pitcher that Meyer also projects to be, he was able to keep his ERA/FIP rates below league average. Besides this important comp data, the factual circumstances for why Meyer's BB rate increased this season is primarily due to mastering the new change up- an issue that will gradually fade away over time.....can't stress the point enough, when the pitch was working on Sunday, it was devastating).
  20. It would nice to see him up with Ft Myers in the next week or so, finish strong, and get tapped for the AFL. He's got Burdi breathing down his neck for a Twins bullpen slot, perhaps in late 2015. A little healthy competition is not a good thing, in this case it would be a great thing.
  21. As has been demonstrated in a companion thread with statistical information to back it up, the walk concern is vastly overblown for a High K-rate power-pitcher with a high GB% who also produces a high percentage of weakly hit balls in play. As I stated after seeing him pitch in person, he's certainly not a finished product, but if the Twins are acting under the premise on waiting for something close to perfection in the control department, it's going to be a long time coming. Randy Johnson had 4 straight years with the Mariners until he was nearly 30 with horrendous BB/9 rates, before it finally clicked for him. Meyer has had much better minor league BB/9 rates than Johnson, so he's actually well ahead of the Big Unit in that regard.
  22. I remember the thread well. Despite the fact that Meyer was dominant throughout Spring Training and into early May at the time in question- ( it was the rerun of Gibson's early season in 2013, only a whole lot better)-..... In the thread I (sadly) predicted that the Twins would most likely not call Meyer up until May 2015- not because I have a crystal ball- but because they had just purchased so many alternative options in the offseason (Nolasco, Hughes, Pelfrey, Johnson, Pino), it was pretty obvious that Meyer's 2013 shoulder fragility and the financial considerations for starting Meyer's clock had precluded him from their 2014 plans. (Rob Antony's comments at the time clinched it for me...he mentioned what a huge hurdle it was going to be for Meyer- despite coming off of his consecutive double-digit strikeout games on April 23 and 28- between the low-pressure AAA environment and MLB).
  23. After tonight, Colabello appears to be the odd man out, although he will likely be gone when Mauer comes back, which could be the same day. In which case, KC could be gone, or May if he performs poorly.
  24. Thanks for the attaboy, kdrupp09. I really enjoyed my visit to your state. And now, we have lots of things going on in Lousiville concerning the Wings. Both Hicks and Milone make their Red Wing debut this evening. A little addendum to Sunday's game, gone largely unnoticed given Meyer's dominating performance, the Red Wings rallied to tie the game in the 9th, and won it in 15, with catcher, Dan Rohlfing making his first appearance as a pitcher and getting the save. H/T to Alex Meyer for being a team guy to the end on Twitter: Alex MeyerVerified account ‏@Meyer17A What a game and a huge congrats to @DanRohlfing for coming up huge with the save tonight!
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