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Game Thread: Twins vs Orioles, 5/10/16 @ 7:10 PM CT
Riverbrian replied to Sir_Eugene11's topic in Archived Game Threads
We will appreciate it in the same way you would appreciate someone pulling that ice pick out of your eye. -
I think Spycake is right. I think the Twins will look around and see a bunch of Suzuki types and sign the devil they know. My fingers are crossed that JR Murphy will have fixed what ails him by that time and my hope is taht Suzuki will be re-signed as a backup to JR but that... well... That is gonna... Well... I'm going to wait until the off season to give Murph more time to show what made him trade worthy in the first place.
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10 catchers had 475 PA's in 2015 and none of them were Suzuki and he seemed to play a lot last year. I think the Twins would have to get back in contention in order for the goal to be reached. Otherwise Suzuki playing time could get pretty sparse in August and September.
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You are using 2016 data... If the Twins stay at .160 for the entire year we should probably just throw Arcia back there and say... there ya go... fixed it. You will see larger swings in data with less data. I'm not comparing to other positions to be unfair... I'm doing so to illustrate that you pay alot for a little. Yes you can upgrade the C position and have that advantage over other teams but in order to do so... you will have to downgrade another position that typically produces more. In a nutshell... If I have 10 bucks to spend Swihart costs 10 bucks Jackie Bradley Jr. also costs 10 bucks I'm going to get more production from Junior and that's who I'm spending my 10 bucks on .
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OK Consider my excitement officially muted.
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My Bad The .550 OPS you used was for Suzuki I got all Escobar when reading it. Anyway... I'm glad you wouldn't trade Berrios because that is what Boston will be asking for. One more thing... The difference between .301 OBP and .324 OBP is around 10 more walks or hits over the course of a season. You pay a premium for slight upgrades when a position is scarce unless... well... I don't believe in WAR.
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I'm curious why you chose to slightly inflate Swihart's 2015 OPS and then use Escobar's 2016 OPS to make your point. I'm also curious why you chose to only use Escobar's OBP. Escobar has more at-bats than Swihart and the exact same career slugging. Now... If you'd like to give up Berrios for that. I can't stop you but I'll be asking for Terry Ryan to come back and replace you as GM.
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Hope your day at work gets better and don't worry about the snark... You and me are cool. I just think you were missing my point. The reason I'm comparing the potential output to other positions was to illustrate what you get in return. Yes you can upgrade the catcher position but the price tag will be high and you have most likely downgraded another position to upgrade the catcher position and you end up with someone who hits like Escober. I don't know what stats you are using to state that the Twins have the worst catching in the league... I can believe that they have the worst catching in MLB but I also think it's quite possible that the difference between 30th and 10th isn't that large because catching sucks offensively around the league. Keep in mind... I'm not a WAR guy so that won't help change my mind.
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C'mon Mike... You know I'm not saying that. I'm saying how much do you want to pay for a guy who will sit every 3rd game to rest and only hit as well as Eduardo Escobar if you are lucky.
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Catcher comes with other considerations. Such as defense and the ability to work with Pitchers and call a professional game. Also... Managers are prone to rest them more than other positions because it's a hard physical job. If you get a Mauer or a Posey... They start looking for another position that they can play so they can play that bat in the lineup every day so you end up starting your backup frequently anyway. Hey if you can get a Posey or a young Mauer... Do it but the price is going to be bone crushing. Swihart for a #2 starter? That's a horrible price for someone who might hit as well as Eduardo Escobar if you are lucky. BTW... The Twins don't have anybody who fits that description unless you are willing to trade Berrios. On top of that. Swihart just lost his job to someone who probably hits a little less but was better defensively and that kind of shows the willingness of most clubs to punt the position at least offensively.
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You pay a premium either way
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I'm Ok with that but it's the most likely way to get a Posey type C. Unless you find one on the international FA Market.
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Don't overpay for position scarcity. You've already made your move for John Ryan Murphy... Don't do it again. The best hitting catchers perform like below average hitting outfielders so don't overplay for position scarcity again please. Every team has weak hitting catchers and these weak hitting catchers are expensive because of this position scarcity. Herrmann is backing up in Arizona and Fryer is the backup in St. Louis because of this position scarcity and we all thought they were going to fall off the face of the earth. Draft the best college catcher this year. Wait for Murphy to become that .260 BA with 9 HR ceiling that he could become. Call up Turner and grow your own. Trade for Lavarnway for Cash Considerations because his production will only be a little bit worse or a little bet better than every other catcher on the planet not named Posey. All of these are better options so don't give up anything of value for somebody who is just going to bat 8th in the lineup. If you are desperate to get rid of Suzuki... You will be desperate to get rid of the guy who replaces him as well because catchers just are not that impressive.
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Seriously? This should cause another closed door meeting at 1 Twins Way. Watch the wire for a Weatherman placed on waivers.
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I'm not sure but we are better than every other team's game thread so I have bothered looking.
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Experience followed by less experience. It's clearly what Paul tried with the lineup.
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The baseball gods looked at the lineup and said... "Mauer batting first? I don't think so" Then they made it rain.
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The Twins are the only ones racing a Prius at Daytona.
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Right in the middle of the Super Market I'm guessing.
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This didn't originally work for me until I sung it to the melody of the Axel F Theme.
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Yes... Without a Doubt. And we need a base running mistake. Would someone put those in
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Happy Hour at Huberts
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Awesome we got 3 runs in the 2nd inning and Berrios on the mound. (High Five)
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Twins Being Overwhelmed By Underperformance
Riverbrian replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
LOL Yep... It's that scrap heap that Milone and Fein and O' Rourke and Graham just discovered. BTW... Hicks batting 2nd for the Yanks tonight -
I actually like Dozier in the 3 better than 1 or 2 because it's closer to 5 or 6 so I'm happy with the progress. Dozier approach at the plate is like a big power hitting drive em in dude so Bat him in the order like someone who approaches his plate appearances like a big power hitting drive em in dude. All in All... Not the way I would do it but I applaud the shake em up style. One last thing... Look at the lineup again. Besides Suzuki... Vets at the top of the order... Youth at the bottom. Molly's handling of youth continues.
