I think that in areas of personal beliefs, one might wish that people would be able to articulate a position respectfully, with a sense that all sides are seeking what is best for all. If that is what you mean by hoping Torii becomes more enlightened, I'm with you on that. One more thing. How on earth does Torii's retirement speak to the Front Office and their handling, or mishandling of decision making and roster management? [Let me say this as respectfully as I can...] These are the sorts of comments on TD that I appreciate the least. When the article is Torii's retirement, and a comment is aimed at how bad the FO is. Sorta gets old my friends. To quote Rodney King; "Can't we all just get along?"