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I'm talking about if they traded him before the Rule 5 draft. 40-man rosters are locked weeks before in relation to that. That's why a trade happened now. Any type of trade discussion like that would have had to be happening in early November.
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I don't think he could be placed on the 40-man after such a move to protect him from Rule 5.
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Knew it was coming in reference to Burdi, which is why I would have had him in my "for sure" adds to 40-man group. Think it's pretty easy for the Phillies or whoever to keep him given his injury status. The way I look at it, if Kinley is the guy the Twins selected, who would you rather have? Burdi or him? It's unequivocally Burdi if you ask me (heck, I'd rather still have Bard too). I think this is a mark in the negative column for the FO. Burdi is going to close games if he can stay healthy. That's the big question though. How healthy will he be? There was enough on his medical report for the Braves to say no on a trade for him. Edit: Twins must have good presence in Dominican Winter League. Kinley's numbers there thus far: 2-0, 0.00 ERA, 18.0 IP, 4 H's, 8 BB, 29 K's, 0.67 WHIP.
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Twins Sign RHP Michael Pineda
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Winter Meetings - Search For A Starter
Steve Lein replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
No, he's in triple-A next year. I know he had a bad 2nd half. But we seem to forget how good his first half was when everyone was on board saying "yeah he's definitely our #1 prospect" mid-summer.- 169 replies
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Winter Meetings - Search For A Starter
Steve Lein replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
What type of player do you think fill-in corner outfielders or 4th outfielders are? The way I look at it, the Twins "nothing but rain drops" outfield is all center fielder quality. Varying degrees obviously, but that's what they are. It's nice to have a 4th OF-er who is also CF above average, but they already have that and corners are way easier to fill. Granite is a 4th outfielder for the Twins. Look at who the Twins have had in that role recently: Sam Fuld, Logan Schafer, Jordan Schafer, Danny Santana, Shane Robinson, Darin Mastroianni, Clete Thomas... Bench outfielders and corner guys are definitely a dime-a-dozen. You're worrying too much about this and if he's a guy Pittsburgh is targeting, I say good for them and him.- 169 replies
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Winter Meetings - Search For A Starter
Steve Lein replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
While you hope you don't have to rely on them in CF, they are plenty capable to fill in. There are literally numerous corner OF options. On the 40-man: Grossman, Garver, Adrianza. In the minors: LaMonte Wade, Edgar Corcino. Then they are a dime a dozen on FA market. Granite should not hold anything up.- 169 replies
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Winter Meetings - Search For A Starter
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Um, Rosario and Kepler say hello. They can handle it. Plenty of guys who can fill in a corner.- 169 replies
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Winter Meetings - Search For A Starter
Steve Lein replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If that would be the actual cost for Cole, I'm doing that trade. While a lot of people love Archer and his stuff, I'd honestly rather have Cole for what the price will be, and I've always thought of Archer as an enigma. To me he has the weirdest, non-competitive demeanor on the mound I've ever seen. Now, it's not like that has prevented him from striking a bunch of guys out and dominating at times, but something is just "off" there for me. Also, Archer's career WAR vs. Cole's WAR is only 11.9 to 11.4 (bref), and Cole has pitched one less season. Archer put up 4.3 in 2015 and Cole 4.5 that same season. They both gave up a bunch of HR's last year, but before that Cole was very good at keeping the ball in the yard while Archer's been giving them up at that rate 2+ seasons. What I'm saying is, I don't think Archer is far and away better than Cole to justify the price difference in a trade that it seems it's going to require. My first choice is sign Yu Darvish, but trading for Cole would be my second option and I don't see why they couldn't do both if they really wanted. Trading for Archer is a distant option for me and I realize I may be the minority on that.- 169 replies
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MLB's list is near the bottom for me too. I do like some of the things they do, but they seem to be the outlier far most often on guys.
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I've been reading all the prospect guys for a long time. Keith Law is one of the one's I trust the most. What I like about him, is he doesn't necessarily sugarcoat things. You have a #HotTake on a prospect? He'll call you out on it and tell you why. And to be honest (it's just the way he writes that I'm illustrating above), fans of every team would say he "hates them." It's because he's honest. Every team's fans like to think they have a bunch of future all-stars, but that's not nearly the reality, and is what Law's opinions generally illustrate.
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Yeah, except this doesn't happen because there is the MLB Players Association .
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Yeah, I would not sign Mauer to any "extension" as there are rules on what his minimum salary could be. You have to let him become a FA first at this point. Would love to see Darvish brought in, I don't care about the dead money there might be at the end. He moves the needle significantly.
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If you ask me, the Angels overpaid for Maitan after all this. Maitan was not anything close to good this year in his first season and won't be a top 50, let alone top 100 guy anymore. He was #77 on Baseball America, #32 on MLB.com, and #100 on Baseball Prospectus going into 2017.
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Hopes And Plans For Trevor May
Steve Lein replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'll show you where this narrative comes from: That 6-run start you're talking about? That was preceded by a 7-start stretch where he went 5+ innings each game, 6+ in 6 of them, 7 innings in 2, and had quality starts in 5. His final start of the season after that game was also of the quality variety. He lowered his ERA in those games from 5.40 to 4.37 in 50.1 innings before they transitioned him, including that 6-run start you mentioned (he took the mound in that game at 4.03). He absolutely was pitching well at the time the move to the bullpen was made if you ask me.- 33 replies
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Minor League Player Transactions 2017-18
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Yup, I get all that. He's likely still my #1 prospect because of all that, but it's going to take a lot of stuff I haven't heard about him at SS to make me believe he'll ever play there. I especially don't like hearing that he uses a "crow-hop" to make throws there, as an example (though I'm sure that will get taught out of him). Gordon, at a minimum, will be as good as Polanco defensively at SS. I think he will be better. I also think he's going to be a .300 hitter in the majors. If he moves to 2B, I don't think his value goes down much. I think he's got a good middle-infielder profile with his bat.
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Yup, I was saying if you're trading Dozier to the Dodgers and Bellinger was available, he was the guy you wanted, not the pitchers. If you're afraid of the concerns on defense for Gordon, you're really going to dislike them for Lewis...
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I think they just shut him down. Probably minor injury if one at all. They were already limiting him to 5 innings in several starts before then.
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Zack Granite's Impressive Plate Discipline
Steve Lein replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I wouldn't trust the small-sample size data he's using yet. While Granite has drawn an okay amount of walks in his minor league career, he wasn't elite there. (MiLB career .064 IsoD vs. .084 in MLB in 2017). Granite is more of a Revere type to me, but certainly will draw more walks then Ben did. Has the bat control to make contact with pretty much anything he wants to swing at (which I think his data is saying more than he has elite "plate discipline"), but he's not going to draw walks like that moving forward. I hope to be pleasantly surprised on that last part. -
Byung-Ho Park Signs With KBO’s Nexen Heroes
Steve Lein replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'm sad that Park didn't work out. I never really understood the signing at the time, but I liked the possibilities. Even got his jersey for my birthday (in May) after he came out hot with a bunch of #ParkBangs. You all can blame me. -
No, I wouldn't bump his stock other than what I talked about above. This comment was more about the injury concern part. It does worry people, and for a lot those players need to earn back that trust. Thorpe (i think) has done so at this point while Kirilloff hasn't even started to.
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I think it's more the fact that Thorpe was back this year and pitched well. Being back is step 1 to regaining that trust. Performing again is step 2. Thus, to me at least, Thorpe is 3 steps ahead on this coming back from injury curve than Kirilloff. So yes, he does get the benefit on that.
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Couple guys on here who I probably wouldn't have put as high yet. Not because they don't have the talent to be there, but I like a few others better. Graterol would be bumped for Thorpe, Baddoo probably dropped a spot or two (but potential to move up a lot again in 2018 - he wasn't in any top 20's coming into year). Might have to get Zack Littell in there too. I'd probably have Wander Javier higher as well. He was #6 on TD's list going into 2017. I know this is Seth's ranking and this may not be the case, but I would have at a minimum held his ranking, but definitely not downgraded it after his season in Elizabethton. I'm also not one to drop guys down because of injury in my lists, but due to the seasons some others put up while he was out, I would probably would have bumped down Kirilloff into this section. So, something like Baddoo, Littell, Thorpe, Javier, Kirilloff 10-6 here for me. Couple guys I may bump Baddoo for as well. Definitely looking forward to how the top 5 slot!
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What can Minnesota offer Shohei Otani?
Steve Lein replied to Riverbrian's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
He'll make the MLB league minimum just like any other rookie coming up through a system. Yes, pool money is the max bonus he can receive.

