Reginald Maudling's Shin
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Everything posted by Reginald Maudling's Shin
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First off, I know they went over $100M, the point is that management was willing to do so, not the actual number. 2nd, while getting rid of Hardy was a mistake, they weren't trying to do a salary dump there, as they paid $15M to get Nishi to essentially replace him. O-Hud was a nice player and I wish they would have kept him. But overall, what drastic changes would you make to a team that won ~96 games? I can't believe I'm forced to defend the org so staunchly. Some of you feel like you're getting hosed because the payroll went down on a bad team, that's actually not a bad thing. Again, it's been 3 years since the park opened. Lets not panic. Even as Levi has his doubts about Ryan, Rob Antony pretty much said they couldn't get guys to come here. They can't make that excuse when the team is better. If the payroll isn't up in 2-3 years then I'm with you.
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And my stance is they haven't been in a new stadium long enough to make any generalizations whatsoever about how they will spend free agent money. I don't understand why people are so upset they didn't piss away money on top of the line pitchers on a crappy team. I get bring mildly upset they didn't get slightly better pitchers, but Antony pretty much said they couldn't get anyone to come here. Whether you believe him or not its not unreasonable to suggest it might at least be a factor in getting players to come here. Yet people are up in arms like its a given that they could have signed Greinke and Sanchez (for example) for exactly what they got. Lets go with what we do know: $100M payroll in 2010, slightly lower in 2011. Mauer is signed for $23M a year which is fair market value (arguably more). This is what the Pohlads have done. Yet lets get all cranky because we didn't screw up the payroll for when (if) the team is actually ready to compete in 3 years. It doesn't matter who they would have signed this offseason. They traded away asserts in order to rebuild. You don't turn around and go schizophrenic on the deal and load up with veteran pitchers! What is do hard to understand here? They still have Pedro mother trucking Florimon at SS. Tons of unproven guys like Dozier, Parmelee, sacks of wet cement like Doumit and some dude named Wilkin. Oh yeah, and one starting pitcher out of five. They aren't umm, they aren't good.
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But what does this mean for any particular team? Certainly not "if you spend x more you get y more wins". I think the management capabilities of the team have far more to do with winning consistently, except perhaps if you are at the far ends of the spectrum like the Yankees and Red Sox (until very recently) and the Astros. The fact that there is a correlation to me is just statement of how things are, not a predictor of future success.
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You forget about the a $100M payroll 3 years ago? Wouldn't that qualify as evidence?
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Kuddyzer Soze
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Then why is Hicks on the team? You need to give him some confidence there, not PH him for a never-will-be minor league scrub. This is the kind of crap I'm worried about: jerking around the young guys. He should go manage his daughters softball team before he ****s this one up permanently.
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Not Drew Butera, I guess.
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I'm sure the reasoning for that is you took out the backup catcher. But I agree Doumit should throw his glove away. It sucks to have one dimensional players on the roster.
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An overlooked decision was batting Wilkin Ramirez for Hicks. I was sure Ramirez was going to hit into a DP. Instead he looked at two hanging curveballs for called strikes and hit that weak liner to Pedroia that almost was a DP. In that case if you let Hicks bat it's not likely with his speed he'll get doubled up. Plus obviously you have a crap outfield.
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Kind of funny how Bremer knew Doumit had no shot even though it landed at his feet. It was probably too far for Hicks to get it too but Gardy's managin' left that question unanswered.
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Ginger was easier. Stuck on that island, do you want to mess around and get the stop sign? Mary Ann=Vavra, Ginger= Ullger.
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Agreed.
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Two bits says he was safe.
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Damn...I wanted Nuke LaLoosh to finish it.
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Still, stretch him out after you get Napoli. Play the matchup game against good hitters and roll with whoever vs. the bottom of the lineup.
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Somebody doesn't have Gardy's spreadsheet open and working properly.
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I thought I heard Bremer call him Clay butt hole after last inning.
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Nahh, it's Oakland. Tickets aren't that hard to get. I'll need an excuse to go to the other two games anyway so come on down. I only live about 30 minutes from the coliseum.
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Hey, me too! Got 4 tickets already through work. Unfortunately we have to wait until September.
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Yep, you need to be looking Fastball inner half, not go chasing when the pitcher's on the ropes. Now watch Buchholz settle down and not give up another run.
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Not really. "Has this worked? Go back up to the graph and take a look. For the past decade, the average correlation between wins and salary has settled into a "natural" space between 0.3 and 0.5. There are still big payrolls, to be sure, and those teams are more likely to win games. But we haven't seen the extreme correlations between payroll and wins that we witnessed in the past."
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I think I get where you are coming from. You are thinking the Twins can find a way to get Greinke and not have it hurt them long term, which I disagree with but I see why you are trying to make the point.
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I think I'm one if the victims of this disease with you. You just can't put it through people's heads that you can't buy victories and get sustainable success. Anyone bitching about "taxpayer funded stadiums" as if that gives them, personally, a greater voice is just out to complain and isn't really looking at the big picture, nor are they looking for a discussion. They are looking for validation.
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I pretty much stopped following the Wolves when this clown drafted two point guards and passed on Curry. You could just sense he thinks he knows more than anyone and his ego would be his downfall. Hopefully Flip restores some intelligence to the team.
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Star Tribune commenter, not Twins Daily commenter. I would never besmirch the fine people in this forum.