and kab, you are helping me make my point-which i often have difficulty doing by myself if there was a rule that stated a team could carry only 10 pitchers, maybe 11 there would be so much less time wasted by pitching changes and warm up time one of the biggest gripes people have against the game is the length of a 9 inning game i would rather see a batter hit than the third or fourth pitcher of an inning take his seven warm up throws