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  1. I got your point and know that Gibson has zero value to anyone outside this organization as anything more than a reclamation project. Odorizzi has a career 8.2 k/9 and the twins analytics team has insight to the pitching prospects from TB. In fact the team was connected to him even before last season. Is he an ace? No. Would he be a top-3 starter this season for us? Yes. With Santana out to start the season, he would probably even be our opening day starter. Would I rather have Archer? Yes, but we could do a lot worse than getting Odorizzi as part of a package. As for holding on to Kep, I'd love to keep him, but I know that he is a player that TB is interested in. If we got Archer, I'd feel better about trading him - but I'm not going to sweat a #6 hitter that struggles with LHP and who very well could be a career platoon-option. Besides in any deal to better this team, we could agree to take on Denard Span's ugly contract in lieu of dealing additional prospects. Span wouldn't be too large of a dropoff in production from Kepler next year and hopefully we could then use some of this "FA money" that we didn't throw at Darvish to sign another decent starter (Cobb/Lynn) and a potent RHB for the bench.
  2. and in response TB would not accept just Kepler for Archer. Kepler has yet to prove he is more than a platoon-level OF'er at the MLB level. I think he will be, but SP is our position of need LHB RF is not.
  3. I don't think Gibby would be dealt - TB wants Kepler (with their large quotient of LHB I don't know why) - for him - Kepler is the key piece.
  4. I'll take Tillman or Garcia for 1-9 / 2-18 prove-it deals to be back of the rotation (roster fill in) types but not as the ace.
  5. now if we could get Arrieta on 1-year 20 w/team option for 2019 and 4-60 for Cobb I'd be cool with that but nevertheless dealing for Odorizzi or Archer seem like the smarter option. Or maybe reconsider a deal for Teheran or a cheap deal for Collin McHugh or Brad Peacock from Houston.
  6. no one is talking arrieta because most think he is on the rapid decline. I'd only give him a deal like 1-year prove it or 1-year with a LARGE 2nd year team option. If I'm going to sign one of these big four on a 3+ yuear deal it is Cobb and Cobb alone.
  7. I want archer a lot but even I think that is too much. If that is what Archer commands - trade them something less for Odorizzi and sign Cobb. For Archer, I'd do Thorpe/Kepler/Gordon and offer to take on Denard's contract.
  8. I am always a fan of building from within, but the Twins are truly well into the onset of their window to compete. With the rebuilt bullpen, the two remaining biggest holes for this team is a RH corner OF/1B bat and a true #1 SP. Although we obviously also need at least one more veteran SP as a contingency with question marks surrounding the position. We have the trade capital to land that #1 if an opposing team is in fact shopping one. We need to go on this, and then use our FA dollars to land that veteran lower-rotation veteran arm and that RH bat. We've already missed out on Cole, I hope we make every effort to land Archer because I doubt there are any other teams considering shopping a young controllable top-of-the-rotation type pitcher.
  9. I'd be willing to deal Kepler or Kiriloff along with Gordon and a MiLB SP prospect in a deal for Archer - but if we can get Teheran for something a little less I'd be fine with that too. I wouldn't deal Lewis in a deal for either of them.
  10. I still would try to do it on the cheaper side - sign Cobb, and give Tillman a 1-year prove it contract - like 1-6 or 1-7, with perhaps a club option for like 10 the following year. Then I would look to trade for Archer or as has been suggested on here Teheran. This would give the team a rotation as follows: Archer/Teheran Santana Berrios Cobb Gibson with proven backup options ready to fill gaps/injuries: ​Tillman Mejia along with injury recovery options: Pineda May Hughes Duffey and finally the rookie crop: Slagers Enns Gonsalves Romero Jorge et al I'm assuming a trade for Teheran or Archer would cost at least Gordon and perhaps one of those rookie SPs. Considering how our rotation would shake out for the next few years (with contracts expiring) - I'd do it in a heartbeat.
  11. I'm not sure the Twins could afford to pursue JD Martinez, but if we could it'd be a nice get. As for Teheran, I'd love to land him and still sign a top SP like Darvish or Cobb.
  12. I agree that Morrison would be a huge get but he is a lefty and we really need a better righty bench bat - if the team doesn't trust Vargas, I'd cut both him and Adrianza, sign Morrison as the everyday DH/backup 1B, and then pursue bringing back Eduardo Nunez to be a super utility type. He could play 3B if Sano is suspended and he can back up Sano, Polanco, and potentially both corner OFs. I'd guess the team would even choose to start him regularly in RF as a platoon partner with Kepler. By having Morrison start at DH most days, Grossman could become a quality bench bat who as a switch hitter (with a very good OBP) would give the team a valuable PH late in games.
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