Week 13 NFL

[nicksaviking]

On 11/28/2025 at 4:41 PM, stringer bell said:

Looks like the Vikings are truly #4 in the NFC North. I'm pretty impressed by the Bears. They have a lot of good young talent and it looks like Johnson is going to be a good head coach.

The Bears do look good.

And I think it's a complete sham. Caleb Williams does not look like he's actually improved off of last year. His competition percentage has actually gotten worse and he absolutely cannot get the ball to his best playmaker and receiver, Rome Odunze. It seems the thing Ben Johnson has fixed with him is taking fewer sacks, but that's probably partly a product of him getting rid of the ball faster, and partly a product of Chicago's successful offseason attempt to fix the OL. 

[nicksaviking]

13 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

NFL hot take… Sounds like Pittsburgh fans are turning on Tomlin and after 20 years it’s probably time both move on. Wherever he goes next I think he goes on an Andy Reid type of run winning 2+ super bowls. He’s had jack squat at QB for the last 7-8 years and still keeps that team competitive 

I hope he does, but he'd have to become less stubborn about what kind of offense he runs. You can't win while being a ball-control, run heavy team with a statue pocket passer in this league any longer. You either have to have a high-flying passing attack, or you need a stud O-line and a QB that's as dangerous on the ground as the RB. Based on his track record, Tomlin wants nothing to do with either approach.

[nicksaviking]

3 hours ago, gunnarthor said:

I haven't really paid attention to the Giants disfunction this season but, man, they are hurting. What a mess.  

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47171872/giants-rookie-abdul-carter-benched-again-start-game

They seem to have some really talented young players though, along with a patient owner. That's going to be a really desirable landing spot for whomever is next year's hot available coach.

[gunnarthor]

14 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I hope he does, but he'd have to become less stubborn about what kind of offense he runs. You can't win while being a ball-control, run heavy team with a statue pocket passer in this league any longer. You either have to have a high-flying passing attack, or you need a stud O-line and a QB that's as dangerous on the ground as the RB. Based on his track record, Tomlin wants nothing to do with either approach.

I think that the Vikings dodged the bullet with Rodgers. 

[TheLeviathan]

1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

The Bears do look good.

And I think it's a complete sham. Caleb Williams does not look like he's actually improved off of last year. His competition percentage has actually gotten worse and he absolutely cannot get the ball to his best playmaker and receiver, Rome Odunze. It seems the thing Ben Johnson has fixed with him is taking fewer sacks, but that's probably partly a product of him getting rid of the ball faster, and partly a product of Chicago's successful offseason attempt to fix the OL. 

2025 Bears = 2024 Vikings.  I predict it ends much the same.