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De Leon face the Twins tomorrow btw
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Meanwhile, the Twins haven't developed a useful starting pitcher since Liriano
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Passan: Dodgers Nearing Deal for Forsythe
doscinco replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Yeah but why say stuff like this: "I love Sborz, but the Dodgers didn’t think all that much of him," Knapp said. -
Passan: Dodgers Nearing Deal for Forsythe
doscinco replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Why are the Twins new FO using the press so much? I'm a Dodger fan and I don't ever remember trade talks being as public as Dozier's with Freidman/Zaidi around. Then there's the latest Beradino article where the roving pitching coordinator says Bellinger/De Leon for Dozier would've been a fair deal. What is the point of that? -
the Dodgers have a playoff roster w/o Dozier, you guys. I want Dozier, but it's is not like a controversial take that they're one of the best teams in the NL right now.
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The other problem is that there is no need to make a desperation move this late into the off-season. The deadline to make a trade is still 6 months away.
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Dozier has always been a luxury to the Dodgers. They have an above average position players at C, SS, CF, 1B, 3B, RF (just on Puig's defense at least) to go along with a high end and deep pitching staff. They just need someone to be close to Utley's production of last year. On the other hand, the Twins haven't had a worth wild young SP make a difference in a decade+. Their desperation for good young SP had been well documented. I don't think they're are panicking, but they can't keep running out 90+ loss seasons w/ a relatively new ballpark.
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Looks like this trade dead. Thank you for a hospitality, Twins fans. Looking forward to following Hunter Greene's progress if you guys take him. About 10 years apart, but I went to Notre Dame HS, as well.
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If the front office would've subscribed to this line of thinking, Corey Seager would be on the Phillies right now.
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Dodgers/Lakers insider guy (he broke the Justin Turner/Kenley signings) Chris Camello @Chris_Camello Sources: There has been some movement between #Dodgers and #Twins in regards to Dozier. Not sure what that means but next 24-48 hrs are big Chris Camello @Chris_Camello I'm not saying that a trade is automatically going to happen the next 2 days but #Dodgers appear to be making some progress
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The fact that the Twins haven't walked away yet, despite not receiving the offers they want, proves that to kinda want to trade him. I mean, they've been "talking" to teams for 2 months now.
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Dodgers signed Jose Miguel Fernandez, a 2B Cuban FA. Minor league deal, though.
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You mean the type of pitchers the Twins should be targeting as a 2nd piece has nothing to do with Dozier's value?
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Cotton is young and cheap, so hypothetically speaking, we are talking about future Twins rotations
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TyTy is right. Even throw away prospects like Jharel Cotton (used in the Rich Hill/Reddick trade) pitched 40ish innings like a mid rotation arm for Oakland in the bigs. Cotton, who had certain s of his own as a prospect, would probably be the Twins 3rd best SP behind Santana and maybe Berrios.
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It's tough to judge Alvarez at this stage. At this time next year he could be one of the top 10 prospects in baseball. But yeah, that's a great return for Minnesota.
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And that's my point. Not trying to be a dick, but no team is trading elite prospects for 2 years of Dozier. Those are reserved for Chris Sale types. Yoy can try to find a sucker like Arizona and get a Dasnby Swanson, but that's unlikely.
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Very doubtful you get a "star" for Dozier, just being realistic.
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Randy Johnson first full season: 25Danny Salazar first 120+ IP season: 25 Roy Halladay first 130+ IP season: 25 Cliff Lee first full season: 25, first good season came a year later JA Happ first full season: 26 Orel Hershiser first full season: 25 Should I continue?
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Jacob deGrom's rookie of the year season age: 26Adam Wainwright's first full season age: 25 Corey Kluber's first full season age: 27 Carlos Carrasco's first 120+ IP season age: 27 Kyle Hendricks' first full season age: 25 Tanner Roarks' first full season age: 27 Curt Schilling's first full season age: 26 Should I continue?
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This thread is just repeating itself now. Both teams need a resolution for their fanbases' sanity, hopefully this weekend.
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http://www.minorleagueball.com A new Dodgers top 20 list
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The Braves would rather have Brandon Phillips than Brian Dozier
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fWAR doesn't account for pitch framing in which Grandal is elite in. WAR is also a counting stat. The reason Dozier has a slightly higher WAR than Turner over the last year or 3 years is because he's had more ABs. I guess being durable is a skill to a degree but it does not make him better. Turner wasn't even a full time starter 3 years ago and he's still only a run behind over that time period. And again, WAR isn't the end all be all.
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WAR is simply not everything. If we are including pitchers, Dozier would be the 5th or 6th most important Dodgers player behind Kershaw, Jansen, Turner, Seager, and possibility Grandal
