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Stewart is ranked 7th by Fangraphs and 8th by Baseball America. Baseball Prospectus is really the only place where Stewart hasn't been in the Dodgers top 10. I was impressed with Stewart. He was their minor league pitcher of the year. He looks like an innings eater with great composure. A solid #4 with some upside. Low mileage on the arm because has only pitched for a couple of years.

It has never been reported that Calhoun or Verdugo aren't on the table. This discussion thread has expanded a list that was Bellinger, Alvarez, Buehler, and maybe Stewart.

The Dodgers set a MLB record for most players on the DL last year and were still 2 games from the World Series. Turner and Grandal were coming off of rehabs. They had 5 rookie pitchers make starts for them last season that all have more experience. Rich Hill, Clayton Kershaw, and Julio Urias will have a lot more starts for the 2017 Dodgers. Corey Seager won't be a rookie either. All things that improve the team.

I believe The Shredder on the MLB network had Dozier 8th or 9th too. No market bias there. Some of the analysts on the show had Dozier higher.

We all know that there was more than just JDL on the table, but we aren't privy to the names unless Dave's source has it right.

He has three years of team control. I'm not sure if he's injury prone or not. He had labrum surgery which I also had in late November. I can empathize with anyone trying to return to pro baseball from that surgery. From the scouting reports that I read, the main difference has been velocity on his throws from short. As for him playing 1B, it isn't because he can't play the other infield positions, it's because of guys named Andrus, Odor, and Beltre. The kid needs to settle into one spot and be given consistent AB's. If Texas signs Napoli then they're wasting his talents and value having him as a reserve or utility player.

To be honest I'm not sure what the going rate would be for Profar. I've read conflicting reports. JDL would be pretty close to Ross. Texas might be more interested in someone like Calhoun or Verdugo or whatever second piece they floated to the Twins. Profar wasn't moved when he was the top prospect because they thought he would be starting at SS or 2B. Odor ran with his opportunity while Profar re-habbed his surgery. I think JDL and Stewart is a fair deal for Dozier. The Dodgers are just in a place where it is hard to give up the two most ready prospects they have due to the uncertainty of Kazmir, Ryu, McCarthy, Wood, and even Maeda. I think if Buehler or Alvarez were at AA the Dodgers wouldn't be so hesitant to move Stewart if that is really the case.

Rosenthal is the one who erroneously reported that Puig stormed off after not being allowed to board the team plane following his demotion to AAA. After the truth came out that none of that happened he had to apologize.

I don't get this line of thinking. How are they bullying the Twins. The Dodgers made an offer they thought was fair and the Twins turned it down. The Twins made an offer that they thought was fair and the Dodgers turned it down. I understand how a small market complex can happen, but it can also be said that teams think they can get more out of LA than other teams because of their cash flow and re-stocked minors. That is exactly why the Dodgers hired Freidman and got rid of Coletti. They don't mind spending money or trading prospects(look at the Oakland deal), but they aren't going to do it foolishly just because a small market team(or their fans) expects more out of LA. It is every GM's responsibility to explore all options that make the team better. I can't say that I have liked all of Friedman's and FAZ's moves, but one thing they have made a commitment to is depth and depth that is 40 man deep and not just 25. If Alvarez had been on the table with JDL it would have been taken already in my opinion. I just don't see them trading 2 of their top 3 prospects for Dozier. Nor would 99% of Dodgers fans want them to make that trade. I had to laugh when the word stingy was used recently. The Dodgers aren't obligated to share their toys with the other kids. This is pro baseball. With all of the extra draft picks the small market teams get their minors could be stocked like the Cardinals have been in the past. The Dodgers front office should explore deals for Dozier, Kinsler, Forsythe, Profar, Hernandez, Harrison w/McCutchen, Braun w/Gennett and then make the deal that makes them the strongest moving forward.

I said a week ago that Profar made sense. The kid was the #1 prospect in baseball 3 years ago and is currently blocked due to no fault of his own. He needs consistent AB's. I'm not sure this is an attempt to squeeze anything out of the Twins. While it is unfortunate for the Twins that there aren't more suitors for Dozier, the Dodgers do have other options to explore.

I suggested something similar a while back. I would think a deal could get worked out with some combo of JDL, Sheffied, De Jong, Oaks, Wood and a hitter like Rios. Also, Thinkbluela.com just did a summary of the Dodgers best pitchers 20 or under not named Urias.

I will agree with you that JDL is a riskier player than an established major league player of Dozier's capabilities. However, I certainly don't agree with your analysis of why he's available Most Dodgers fans would see him as an upgrade to the rotation. However the Dodgers aren't going to just eat $20 million on McCarthy and $32 million on Kazmir.

To be fair they did play the last two series of the season like it was spring training. They are also counting on the maturation of young guys like Seager, Pederson, Urias, etc. and getting a lot more starts out of Kershaw, Hill, and Urias than they did last year. The offense was excellent against righties and putrid against lefties last year.

Absolutely I understand. I felt bad for the guy last year. He really seemed to have hit his stride when he had to have the impingement in his elbow fixed. He didn't have enough time to get stretched out prior to the playoffs. There's always been a lot of debate on the Dodgers boards on whether he's a 3, 4, or 5 when healthy in most rotations. I think he's a nice 2nd or 3rd piece in this type of deal. People tend to forget how young he is still.

I don't think Stewart is off the table. I think he's off the table as a second piece in this deal due to the injury histories of Kazmir, Ryu, and McCarthy. No interest in Wood Twins fans? I think he would be a nice pick up myself.

There's nothing wrong with asking why would a team trade a prospect if he's actually good as advertised. In this case the answer is Kershaw, Urias, Hill, Maeda, McCarthy, Kazmir, Wood, Ryu, Deleon, and Stewart all fighting for 5 spots while the Dodgers are running out of options when it comes to places where they could move Kazmir and/or McCarthy. The Dodgers aren't moving Kershaw, Hill or Urias so out of the other 7 pitchers which has the most value to acquire a good Second Baseman? JDL was almost the main piece in a Hamels trade when Texas got him a couple of years ago. He's now big league ready. It's not a matter of they don't believe in him. They are trying to get value for value while being stuck with two turds, (McCarthy and Kazmir), that they can't move. And no one is counting on Ryu to have any value in a deal until he proves he can pitch again.

I'm by now ways offended by the word "junk" either. I'm just saying there is a lot of depth in the system compared to others. I think JDL and Stewart isn't unreasonable nor do I think JDL + 2 or 3 quality B prospects.

I still think a package with JDL followed by guys like Calhoun, Diaz, Rios, Sheffield, De Jong, Rios and some others to choose from is a nice deal. I'm not sure of Verdugo's status in deals. He wouldn't be on my untouchable list because I think they have plenty of young OF options. http://www.truebluela.com/2017/1/12/14254138/edwin-rios-2017-dodgers-prospects

One problem is what is being perceived as "junk". I listened to Anthropolous talk yesterday on Sirius and said they felt they had 20 good big leaguers in their minors right now. Jon Heyman said 30 today on MLB Now. Just because certain guys are ranked in the top 5-6 on the Dodgers current list right now doesn't make them "junk." Now go back a few years when Jerry Sands was the top prospect and everything past 3 was probably "junk."

I think most Dodgers fans would say no thanks to adding Alvarez, Buehler, or Bellinger to the deal and a lot would say no to Stewart as well. Considering the second year of Kinsler's deal is a club option, it is very doable to get something worked out. I think the Dodgers should talk to Texas about Profar too. He's blocked and needs to play. A deal including Harrison and McCutchen is a possibility. Adding a Braun to LF would also offset the need for Dozier's bat. They have options.

That's possible. They may also think that Stewart plays better out of the pen than JDL. I read the Molly Knight book this week. The Dodgers and Phillies almost had a deal in place that was JDL and SVS for Cole Hamels when Texas swooped in a got Hamels.

Friedman left on very good terms. Madden not so much. I listened to an interview with their owner about this very subject. He was pissed at Joe. The Rays and Dodgers have already made deals since Andrew left Tampa. Liberatore and Peralta came from Tampa.

One team wins every year. ONE. it's tough to win it all. I'm not content, but I'm also not one to complain about being in the tournament every year. The Dodgers didn't win too many playoff games between 1988 and 2008 then McCourt bankrupted the team, left them with near nothing in the minors, and their international scouting cut from the budget so to me it's not the end of the world to lose in the playoffs. You might say the Dodgers only re-signed their aging players, but you also have to remember that young players like Seager, Urias, Dayton, Pederson, Toles, Puig?, Grandal, Stewart and JDL should all be better. Last season they didn't get many starts from Kershaw, Urias, and Hill. That number will go up substantially.

Yes, that was a momentum changer and the team that scored 1st won every game, but the game wound something like 10-4. As much as the announcing and umpiring at times was an annoying love fest, we can't blame the loss on the horrible call at the plate. As much as I love Roberts, I thought he blew an excellent opportunity to use Alex Wood that game instead of overusing Joey Pancakes.

Just from my understanding of the Dodgers system, I'm guessing guys like Calhoun, Diaz, Sheffield, De Jong were offered as second pieces or 3rd pieces. The Dodgers also have two good young catchers. Smith and Ruiz so I could see Farmer offered as a 3rd or 4th piece. On the surface JDL and Stewart make sense, but I can understand why they feel they need to keep at least one due to the injury histories of Kazmir, McCarthy, and Ryu. I am a little surprised that Alex Wood's name hasn't come up more. He was really throwing well when he had the elbow cleanup. He looked good when he came back at the end of the year. He just didn't have a chance to be stretched out. He make hitter look silly at times. He and Honeycutt had fixed something in his mechanics and it was really paying off.