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    REPORT: Twins Investigating Giants Over Sam Dyson Trade


    Cody Christie

    Minnesota acquiring Sam Dyson at the trade deadline was one of the team’s highlight moves as the bullpen was conceived to be one of the team’s greatest weaknesses. He was in the middle of a terrific season with the Giants as he posted a 2.47 ERA and a 6.71 strikeout-to-walk ratio. He was brought into Minnesota to be one of the team’s late inning options, but that certainly hasn’t been the case.

    Dyson has pitched like he is damaged goods since he put on a Twins uniform and now it seems likely that he will undergo shoulder surgery that will cost him parts of this season and next season.

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    In 12 appearances with the Twins, he has struggled to a 7.15 ERA and a 1.33 strikeout-to-walk ratio with multiple trips to the disabled list. His most recent prognosis is that he will miss the rest of the season with shoulder surgery and there’s no guarantee that he will be ready for the start of next season. This would mean the Twins traded three-prospects for 12 appearances from Dyson

    According to La Velle E. Neal III and the Star-Tribune, the Twins are investigating what San Francisco knew.

    "According to sources with knowledge of the situation, the Twins have investigated whether San Francisco was aware that Dyson had a sore shoulder when the Giants sent him to the Twins in exchange for three minor leaguers, pitchers Prelander Berroa and Kei-Wei Teng and outfielder Jaylin Davis.

    As standard procedure before trades are finalized, Dyson’s medical information was examined by the Twins. There were no red flags on the records they examined.

    Dyson, however, informed the Twins shortly after joining them on July 31 that he has been pitching with some discomfort, dating to a July 15-17 series against Colorado. He said he’s had aches before and and pitched through them."

    He goes on to say, “The situation led to discussions between the Twins and Giants to determine what they knew about Dyson's condition before the deal was made. The Twins have been unable to find any evidence that the Giants had knowledge of an injury.”

    Back in 2016, the San Diego Padres and general manager A.J. Peller were penalized for a similar situation that changed some of the medical record process for big-league squads. Peller was suspended for 30 days after the league determined the Padres had hidden some health issues regarding left-handed pitcher Drew Pomeranz.

    When Minnesota traded Jaylin Davis, Prelander Berroa, and Kai-Wei Teng, they had no idea this was the type of pitcher the club was getting in exchange. Dyson has one more year of team control, but it doesn’t seem likely for the Twins to pick-up his multi-million-dollar arbitration offer if he is going to miss a majority of the season while recovering from shoulder surgery.

    Do you think MLB should step in and deal with this trade between the Twins and the Giants? Were the Giants trying to hide something? Leave a COMMENT and start the discussion.


    Note from John Bonnes: a paragraph in this original story has been edited as it was not accurate.

    Originally, the story stated:

    There seems to be something fishy happening from the Giants perspective and the Twins are trying to prove the Giants were aware of Dyson’s injury prior to their deadline deal. According to La Velle E. Neal III and the Star-Tribune:

    It is not reported that the Twins are “trying to prove” anything, though one is welcome to try and deduce that. The paragraph was changed to:

    According to La Velle E. Neal III and the Star-Tribune, the Twins are investigating what San Francisco knew.

    "According to sources with knowledge of the situation, the Twins have investigated whether San Francisco was aware that Dyson had a sore shoulder when the Giants sent him to the Twins in exchange for three minor leaguers, pitchers Prelander Berroa and Kei-Wei Teng and outfielder Jaylin Davis.

    As standard procedure before trades are finalized, Dyson’s medical information was examined by the Twins. There were no red flags on the records they examined."

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    Could be... but where is the point where the Twins (or any other team) would deem it an acceptable risk.

     

    I'm sure Dyson doesn't want to go an entire calendar year without getting paid.

     

    Sign him to:

    2020 - $2M

    2021 - $3M

     

    That's probably a little more than is necessary, but that probably gets it done on Dyson's side. At that point you're competing against all 29 other teams, so a little overpay (if you want him) will likely be required.

     

    You might get Dyson toward the tail end of 2020 and you'd have him for 2021. If Dyson gets fixed, then $5M is worth it. If he's not fixed, then you're lighting $5M on fire.

    At the tail end of 2020, Dyson will be 32 1/2 and he will be 33 for most of the 2021 season.

     

    If the Twins can’t find an in house replacement by the start of 2021, I would call that a pretty major failure on the development staff.




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