Coach J Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 I usually attend about 10-12 Twins games per year. I live about an hour south of KC and always go to the games when the Twins come to KC and usually make it up to Minny for a series. Wanted to post a couple thoughts from the game that I noticed.. #1 it was a pretty miserable night both with the Twins' play and the weather. It was very cold and very wet and it was pretty tough to get comfortable. I watch nearly every Twins game and I think that may have been the worst game I have seen Joe Mauer play. His first two strikeouts were pretty sad especially the one with the bases loaded because he honestly looked overmatched up there. Davis really seemed to be keeping him off balance and blew the ball past him several times. However, his third at bat was the most disappointing. With Hicks on second with nobody out, instead of looking for a pitch to pull and if nothing else get the runner over. He seemed perfectly content with getting behind in the count and forcing himself to take a defensive swing and hitting a lazy fly ball to left field leaving Hicks at second. Just seemed like a pretty selfish ab. #2- I thought Hendriks looked pretty good. He got several swing and misses and made some really nice pitches when he needed to. Butler hit the homerun but other than that, Liam pitched well. The Royals did a nice job of extending ab's and getting the pitch count up. He should have thrown about 20 less pitches if Dozier doesn't botch a routine DP in the second. #3- I have never been so irritated with the fans at the game. I am 26 and have no kids, never been married. But I felt so bad for the people sitting around me with kids that had to hear and see the way people were behaving. Profanity was nonstop from several people around us and the 3 guys sitting behind me thought it would be a good time to talk about their experiences with drugs (in detail). There was a family of 4 sitting in front of me and I could tell the mother was getting upset but nobody said anything. I do wish I would have now. But taking kids to a baseball game should be a great experience that makes memories for a lifetime, it just sucks people have to be so ignorant and act that way. "baseball is for kids, grown-ups only screw it up." Those were my thoughts on the game. Hopefully when the Twins come back to KC it will be warmer and better baseball will be played!!
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 I usually attend about 10-12 Twins games per year. I live about an hour south of KC and always go to the games when the Twins come to KC and usually make it up to Minny for a series. Wanted to post a couple thoughts from the game that I noticed.. #1 it was a pretty miserable night both with the Twins' play and the weather. It was very cold and very wet and it was pretty tough to get comfortable. I watch nearly every Twins game and I think that may have been the worst game I have seen Joe Mauer play. His first two strikeouts were pretty sad especially the one with the bases loaded because he honestly looked overmatched up there. Davis really seemed to be keeping him off balance and blew the ball past him several times. However, his third at bat was the most disappointing. With Hicks on second with nobody out, instead of looking for a pitch to pull and if nothing else get the runner over. He seemed perfectly content with getting behind in the count and forcing himself to take a defensive swing and hitting a lazy fly ball to left field leaving Hicks at second. Just seemed like a pretty selfish ab. #2- I thought Hendriks looked pretty good. He got several swing and misses and made some really nice pitches when he needed to. Butler hit the homerun but other than that, Liam pitched well. The Royals did a nice job of extending ab's and getting the pitch count up. He should have thrown about 20 less pitches if Dozier doesn't botch a routine DP in the second. #3- I have never been so irritated with the fans at the game. I am 26 and have no kids, never been married. But I felt so bad for the people sitting around me with kids that had to hear and see the way people were behaving. Profanity was nonstop from several people around us and the 3 guys sitting behind me thought it would be a good time to talk about their experiences with drugs (in detail). There was a family of 4 sitting in front of me and I could tell the mother was getting upset but nobody said anything. I do wish I would have now. But taking kids to a baseball game should be a great experience that makes memories for a lifetime, it just sucks people have to be so ignorant and act that way. "baseball is for kids, grown-ups only screw it up." Those were my thoughts on the game. Hopefully when the Twins come back to KC it will be warmer and better baseball will be played!! The game had all the feel of the Old Met back in the 70s on cold September weeknights, when each fan had his own personal Grain Belt vendor. One difference, the cameraman- who seemed to revel in endless shots of the vast sea of empty seats at Kaufman- will never do the same if/when it happens at Target Field.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 #3- I have never been so irritated with the fans at the game. I am 26 and have no kids, never been married. But I felt so bad for the people sitting around me with kids that had to hear and see the way people were behaving. Profanity was nonstop from several people around us and the 3 guys sitting behind me thought it would be a good time to talk about their experiences with drugs (in detail). There was a family of 4 sitting in front of me and I could tell the mother was getting upset but nobody said anything. I do wish I would have now. But taking kids to a baseball game should be a great experience that makes memories for a lifetime, it just sucks people have to be so ignorant and act that way. "baseball is for kids, grown-ups only screw it up." Those were my thoughts on the game. Hopefully when the Twins come back to KC it will be warmer and better baseball will be played!! I'm at a point in my life where I don't put up with this anymore if it's non-stop and truly offensive. If it's truly that bad I don't think it's out of line to respectfully remind them of the kids around. If it continues, get an usher. I've seen ushers 'warn' extreme profanity-users to tone it down. And I saw one person being escorted out (who later returned) for such usage. Of course, that was in Texas, but still.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Good post. One question: Do you think the weather affected players ability to hit? It just seemed like nobody could see the ball well.
Coach J Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 Good post. One question: Do you think the weather affected players ability to hit? It just seemed like nobody could see the ball well. Very possible.. I thought it was really tough to pick up when the ball left the bat and it was in the air. Outfielders were having a really tough time. Cain dropped one and Gordon nearly dropped one.
ashbury Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 #3- I have never been so irritated with the fans at the game. ... but nobody said anything. I do wish I would have now. I agree with your assessment; most teams in my experience welcome your finding an usher and telling them someone is doing this. It's not tattling.
Coach J Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 I'm at a point in my life where I don't put up with this anymore if it's non-stop and truly offensive. If it's truly that bad I don't think it's out of line to respectfully remind them of the kids around. If it continues, get an usher. I've seen ushers 'warn' extreme profanity-users to tone it down. And I saw one person being escorted out (who later returned) for such usage. Of course, that was in Texas, but still. Couldn't agree more.. I am kicking myself for not saying something.
70charger Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 I'm at a point in my life where I don't put up with this anymore if it's non-stop and truly offensive. If it's truly that bad I don't think it's out of line to respectfully remind them of the kids around. If it continues, get an usher. I've seen ushers 'warn' extreme profanity-users to tone it down. And I saw one person being escorted out (who later returned) for such usage. Of course, that was in Texas, but still. I think I'm at that point in my life now too. Granted, many years ago I was at the opposite point, but assuming that I noticed kids around me, I'd try to tone it down. The drugs thing is ridiculous though. Don't kick yourself too hard for not saying anything; it's an uncomfortable spot to be in. Do it next time, but remember that it isn't really your fault - it wasn't you talking about drugs...
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Couldn't agree more.. I am kicking myself for not saying something. don't. It's hard to know in any given situation when's the time to act. But, coming from you, younger, might be taken with a little more ... 'thought' ... than from one so 'old' like me.
snepp Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 I'm not crotchety enough yet to say anything myself. But I would have no qualms at all about getting an usher to do it.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Sad to hear so much negativity - Kauffman is my favorite non-Twins ballpark. I had nothing but positive experiences at the game. (The city sucks, but that's not what I went for) One stadium that doesn't put up with nonsense is Milwaukee. Couple kids snuck down and started some really offensive language in a family section. I gave them an earful while someone else went for an usher. They came back with 6 cops for two guys. That was not a friendly way to be removed, but well deserved.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Couldn't agree more.. I am kicking myself for not saying something. My family and I were at a Mariners game last year where there were Red Sox fans saying some of the nastiest things I have ever heard at a park, on top of that they were screaming F bombs non stop. Now, the youngest "child" in my family was 20 years old, but eventually enough was a enough for my dad and he turned around and basically told them to stop otherwise there would be issues, sure enough this only egged them on more and one eventually said something pretty inappropriate to my mom, well about two seconds later I had one of the guys by the collar as did my dad. Luckily security came down and gave them the boot before we really lost it. I don't understand why some people have to be such *******s at games, its one thing to swear a bit to your buddies, its a whole nother thing to be screaming F bombs and talking about really nasty things super loud the entire game where everyone can hear. I mean everyone has had to much to drink a time or 30 in their lives (myself included) but I have never had the desire to start screaming things in a public setting to start runing everyone's experience. To the OP, what section were you in? There were a couple idiots in our section that were swearing and talking about a players mother, one guy eventually turned around and told em to knock it off. (We were in 120) Security at these ball games need to do a better job at giving people the boot, I mean they have a damn security guard at every section, do your job and get people to stop swearing etc. Personally it doesn't bother/affect me a whole lot, but I know when I am there with a date, or someday with a kid it will really piss me off.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Sad to hear so much negativity - Kauffman is my favorite non-Twins ballpark. I had nothing but positive experiences at the game. (The city sucks, but that's not what I went for) One stadium that doesn't put up with nonsense is Milwaukee. Couple kids snuck down and started some really offensive language in a family section. I gave them an earful while someone else went for an usher. They came back with 6 cops for two guys. That was not a friendly way to be removed, but well deserved. I went to all three games and must say that 99.9% of the fans were great, you don't get any trash talk for wearing a Twins jersey and the majority of people there are just trying to have an enjoyable experience. Like anything else though, its the few rotten apples that ruin it for everyone. Security just needs to do a better job IMO.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Very possible.. I thought it was really tough to pick up when the ball left the bat and it was in the air. Outfielders were having a really tough time. Cain dropped one and Gordon nearly dropped one.The weather I don't think yesterday effected it much as it was mostly just a mist. However Mauer's last at bat in the 2nd game (bases loaded strike out) was certainly effected, the rain was coming down super hard and anyone in that experience can tell you it screws up your "eye" in picking up the ball quite a bit.
Coach J Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Author Posted April 11, 2013 My family and I were at a Mariners game last year where there were Red Sox fans saying some of the nastiest things I have ever heard at a park, on top of that they were screaming F bombs non stop. Now, the youngest "child" in my family was 20 years old, but eventually enough was a enough for my dad and he turned around and basically told them to stop otherwise there would be issues, sure enough this only egged them on more and one eventually said something pretty inappropriate to my mom, well about two seconds later I had one of the guys by the collar as did my dad. Luckily security came down and gave them the boot before we really lost it. I don't understand why some people have to be such *******s at games, its one thing to swear a bit to your buddies, its a whole nother thing to be screaming F bombs and talking about really nasty things super loud the entire game where everyone can hear. I mean everyone has had to much to drink a time or 30 in their lives (myself included) but I have never had the desire to start screaming things in a public setting to start runing everyone's experience. To the OP, what section were you in? There were a couple idiots in our section that were swearing and talking about a players mother, one guy eventually turned around and told em to knock it off. (We were in 120) Security at these ball games need to do a better job at giving people the boot, I mean they have a damn security guard at every section, do your job and get people to stop swearing etc. Personally it doesn't bother/affect me a whole lot, but I know when I am there with a date, or someday with a kid it will really piss me off. We were in 115.. made things worse when I got up and they started hitting on my girlfriend pretty hard. They were clearly drunk but I am with you.. that is no excuse. I usually love to go to Kaufmann, last night was only bad experience
70charger Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 The weather I don't think yesterday effected it much as it was mostly just a mist. However Mauer's last at bat in the 2nd game (bases loaded strike out) was certainly effected, the rain was coming down super hard and anyone in that experience can tell you it screws up your "eye" in picking up the ball quite a bit. Certainly plausible, although I find it hard to tell exactly how hard it's raining when watching on TV. That last pitch is right in his wheelhouse, and normal Mauer doesn't get anything less than a double on that.
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Certainly plausible, although I find it hard to tell exactly how hard it's raining when watching on TV. That last pitch is right in his wheelhouse, and normal Mauer doesn't get anything less than a double on that. Wasn't hard to tell that game...it was clearly pouring.
70charger Verified Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 Wasn't hard to tell that game...it was clearly pouring. Not with my internet connection last night.
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 not with my internet connection last night. doh! P.S., for the record, I was talking about the 2nd game of the KC series. I didn't even watch last night's game, went to the movies with my son.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 The weather I don't think yesterday effected it much as it was mostly just a mist. However Mauer's last at bat in the 2nd game (bases loaded strike out) was certainly effected, the rain was coming down super hard and anyone in that experience can tell you it screws up your "eye" in picking up the ball quite a bit. I've never seen Joe expand the strike zone like he did throughout that series. It worries me.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 11, 2013 Posted April 11, 2013 I've never seen Joe expand the strike zone like he did throughout that series. It worries me. Not to worry....until the FO starts sandwiching the adjectives "bilateral" & "weakness" around his eyesight as excuses concerning his recent inability to locate the baseball at the plate- and behind it. Seriously though, what with Puckett's early onset glaucoma seemingly coming out of nowhere... I hope the Twins take the proper precautions for their players' vision health.
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