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I'd be willing to take on a bad contract for a year or two if it means better players. It's easy to wipe out, get rid of Santiago, trade Santana. That and Dozier's salary is $28.5 million gone right there.

FWIW, if you type in Brian Dozier on twitter right now, its almost all Dodgers fans and even some writers salivating at the thought of being able to go after Brian Dozier now. Not saying they think the same way as the Dodgers front office, but it certainly has more a buzz now that Jansen and Turner are signed. You are right, it almost makes too much sense for both teams now that those guys are taken care of for the Dodgers.

Also, does anyone else think this makes the Dodgers more likely to trade for Dozier? There only major hole that remains is second base, Dozier is cheap, and they didn't have to give up any prospects to fill other needs. These signings likely take them out of the running on guys like Frazier and Robertson. I personally think this is great news for the Twins and that the Dodgers might me more content to trade a package that would get the deal done.

I would actually love to take Kazmir in a deal. He is a perfect flip candidate in July. Look at Ervin Santana. Fair market value for him right now is at least a top 100 prospect and then a lottery ticket and through June he had an ERA of 5 but turned it around. Kazmir could be a similar guy to that. Plus it is an easy solution, just don't bring back Hector Santiago if you get Kazmir.

Valid comparison. I think a guy like Jarrod Dyson from the Royals falls into that category as well. Just a better version of it

His OBP is similar to the Santana situation. He needs to hit darn near .290 to reach .300 in OBP. Thats just not going to get it done from an everyday outfielder. I like Eddie and would take that if he provided a lot of pop, triples, and borderline gold glove defense. He does seem too inconsistent for that all to come together at this stage in his career. I agree that a 3rd outfielder would be ideal to have. That is why I like Rajai Davis in that position. No idea what his price would be and I would assume we'd have to pay a bit of a premium to take him away from a contender.

For Santana to even have a .300 OBP he would like have to hit at least .280, which I don't think he is capable of. He is just a liability offensively and defensively. Everything besides 2014 shows that he is a below replacement level player. Seems like he is being hung onto for the sole reason that he has above average speed.

Back on track. I'd like to see the Twins sign Drew Storen for a year or two deal. He can't be going for more than 2 and $10 Mil at this point. Seems like a low risk, high reward deal. Members of the Twins FO have always been interested in him and he could have the opportunity to close here. Something he likely wouldn't have elsewhere. I'm also ready to move on from Danny Santana, I've just never been a huge fan of his and think we are better off this Season with signing an outfielder that is still on the market like Rajai Davis.

I agree, I had fun with DaveW's post. Heck, there is still a chance that the bulk of it could prove to be true. It was fun to talk about and get away from our everyday lives for a bit. Baseball is fun, and rumor speculation can be even more fun. Sometimes people take it too seriously it seems like. DaveW certainly has to face the music for making a bold claim, and making jokes on threads is completely fine. But going out of someones way to direct message him and rip on him seems excessive and I think those people need to find other things to do.

I still think DaveW was right and the Dodgers and Twins were just wrong

I agree Stewart is underrated that is why many of us in this thread have been wanting him. Ross Stripling doesn't do a ton for me but some people have thrown is name out there. Would you for sure include De Leon and Bellinger in a trade for Dozier? I would honestly probably accept a trade that is straight up De Leon and Bellinger for Dozier from the Twins side.

Dozier & Boshers for De Leon, Bellinger, and Stewart. What do you say?

RIP Yorman. So sad

Exactly my thought process. Say we trade Dozier for De Leon, Bellinger, and then a B or C level prospect (Based on what we've heard from DaveW). Then we trade Santana, which from another thread most seem to think he will land a prospect between 50-75 and then a B or C level prospect. Add Hunter Greene with the number #1 overall pick, as well as our comp. pick and early second, we will have a very deep farm system that a couple years ago looked like the best in the majors but now isn't viewed as favorably. Our top prospects in July would look something like this (I have moved each prospect up 5-10 spots based on the expectation that 5-10 prospects in the top 100 will have graduated - Based on MLB Pipeline) 1. SP/SS Hunter Greene - 15 Overall (I have no idea where Hunter Greene would be slotted in right away but somewhere in the Top 100 and would eventually be a top prospect in 2 - 3 years) 2. SP Jose De Leon - 25 Overall 3. 1B/OF Cody Bellinger - 28 Overall 4. SP Tyler Jay - 29 Overall 5. SS/2B Nick Gordon - 43 Overall 6. Player from Ervin Santana Trade - 55 Overall 7. SP Stephen Gonsalves - 76 Overall 8. 1B/OF Alex Kirilloff - 84 Overall 9. Round 1 Compensation Pick - 95 Overall 10. SP Kohl Stewart - NR This would net us likely 8 to 10 top 100 prospects by July not even counting young guys like Berrios, Buxton, Sano, and Kepler who previously graduated. Also guys like Kohl Stewart, Adalberto Mejia, Fernando Romero, Ben Rortvedt, Nick Burdi, Wander Javier, Lewis Thorpe, Akil Baddoo, Jose Miranda, and next years 2nd round pick might have futures in the top 100 as well. That would give us the deepest young talent in the MLB that would likely all surface by 2019. I'm not Saying that all of this would come to fruition. But it would sure be cool and a guy can dream.

If this trade goes down we will make sure all these national pundits understand that DaveW broke it before them.

Ken Rosenthal was on MLB Network this morning and referenced that there are some teams that are very good about keeping deals quiet until it actually happens. Specifically he was referring to the Cardinals and then the Rockies with Ian Desmond. I would assume based on past history that the Twins are one of these teams? Beat writers for the Twins have also noted that all it takes is one call and everything changes. Who knows, maybe this will come out of left field to the National Media if it does happen.

I think we decided that we are going to extend the deadline to the end of today. But I don't really remember. A lot of interesting things have happened in this thread over the last couple of days

If that is the case that doesn't give us much leverage. Need at least 2 real bidders to get maximum return. Maybe the Twins are checking with other teams to try and leverage this offer

Lets get Dodgers fans in here and start haggling over the pieces of the trade

What if this gets picked up by someone on Twitter and people start sourcing DaveW?

BRYCE HARPER TO THE TWINS

Deal falling through is a very distinct possibility. But it also entirely possible the Twins could leverage the Dodgers offer into another offer elsewhere that is even better. Twins hold the power here. They have something multiple teams want. In terms of the report that Levine said they need to be "overwhelmed", I think that needs to be taken with a grain of salt because what else should he have said? "Oh yeah we are just gonna trade him for the best offer" that would signal desperation and give the buyers more power. It is good to play down the notion of your willingness to trade your players because that can make them more attractive then if you just want to get rid of a guy

Anyone know if the Twins FO contingency has landed back in the Twin Cities?

Hopefully they are supporters of a free market

My Takes: I am still team DaveW, believe him all the way. Thanks again for sharing Dave. Since we have extended the deadline to tomorrow, can we start placing bets on the over unders for numbers of comments and pages on this thread by the time it is over?