FrozenCard

I have posted nothing but facts - why so mad? OP asked for opinions on HOF consideration for joe - I answered with my opinions- why so mad? have a great day! j

Re-read your post, then consider these facts: - Yadi will never make the HOF - Yadi will never have the all important stats of Joe-the-slappy. -Yadi makes under 10Million/yr - in the 2006 NLDS, NLCS, and WS, Yadi had 19 hits, including 4 doubles and 2 dingers, and 8 RBI - the Cards won the series (OMG - Yadi was a negative WAR that season - omg omg) - in the 2011 NLDS, NLCS, and WS, Yadi had 20 hits, including 5 doubles, and 12 RBI - the Cards won the series that year as well - Yadi has two world series rings on his stubby little fingers - had joe mauer stepped up a bit during his opportunities in the playoffs, like Mr. Molina, maybe you folks would have enjoyed a bit more real success - instead of having to worry about trivialities such as whether someone gets into the HOF. I chime in because I have lived in MN for 20 years and have been subjected to the ridiculous mauer hype for 10 years.....and I simply find it nauseatingly funny how the local team fans gobble him up even though he has the true impact of a marsmallow. joe sure has great stats...but he does not belong in the HOF, with a bust next to Johnny Bench.....ick....have a great day! j

You responded because you are insecure about your favorite ballclub, mad because they have lied to you about building a winner, selling hope with new revenues from a nice new park only to give you the same old cheapskate front office and ownership, selling bitter-tasting, milk-flavored, Mauer Kool-Aid to the glazed-eyed homers to keep the masses pacified. It is a sad statement if the greatest hope for an organization is if one their local-yokels can make the HOF .....where only influential catchers should go. You simply get mad when the curtains are lifted to expose the lack of influential excellence joe actually brings to the diamond. Joe is a nice boy, he sells milk and ice creams, but he does not win, nor will he ever. uh.....when slappy joe moves to 1B, I am pretty sure you would rather have Miggy....and if you don't, you are silly. have a great day j

Mr. Mauer should not even be considered to make HOF unless he can lead his team to one or more World Series appearances or wins. He has had his best opportunities for that already and he shriveled like a raisin - so he may be out of luck. All (or vast majority) of the HOF catchers were leaders of men, and of their teams, and were instrumental in helping their respective organizations obtain the only objective of the game - to win World Series titles (or at a minimum - get to the pinnacle of the game). Joe Mauer has not, nor will he, lead your favorite team the World Series. Now, Joe Mauer is surely a fine contact hitter. However, putting a boy, who often prefers drawing a walk with men on base, over smashing the damned ball through the gap,.....into the HOF next to Men including the likes of Campanella, Berra, Bench, Dickey, Fisk would be a travesty in my opinion. These fellas got it done for their clubs and helped lead them to the promised-land. Joe Mauer often seems content to not lead, to not get fired up when the team needs it, to not perform in a clutch manner during his playoff opportunities, and to not play what one would consider full seasons. If the HOF selection criteria were these below - he would be a shoe in: -playing an average of 127 games a season -hitting 9 singles during his playoff at bats - of his 10 hits -driving in one run during his 9 playoff games (9 games in three playoff series of course means three sweeps) -smiling, looking quite content, flaunting a milk moustache, and seeking to be walked as his team loses 90+ games -collect and pad over-analyzed stats in meaningless games that help the team to nowhere but into oblivion -accepting $23 Million annually to provide the above type of leadership performance -and, potentially becoming a first baseman (eeew!) with the above qualities Not a native of this state and not a fan of the Twins so I can observe him without homer-driven emotion. I made a simple $100 bet with a friend (desperate Twins Homer)many years ago that the Twins will not win, nor visit, the World Series as long as this milk-drinking boy-catcher is on the Twins. Easy money..... These are just my opinions, and Go Cards ! PS - This a good forum and over the past few years it has been fun to monitor it as the Twins suffer from self inflicted stupidity - thank you. I use your suffering as a bit of revenge for 1987, which cannot be forgiven. At least we lost to a team that year with some balls....unlike the Twins of the last 20 years. Have a great day j