I completely agree dave_dw, I think there philosophies are severely outdated. I don't think the Moneyball type of game the Athletics and Twins play works. I don't think the Rays play Moneyball, if you want to make a new name to there philosophy they play "Draftball" where if someone leaves through free agency they have another person right there to replace him. To some extent the Twins had that but when most people leave we were left waiting for a couple years or more to get a replacement.