D.C Twins reacted to MGM4706 in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos
Crazy article. The Twins are NOT going to pay the younger Pitchers on your list who are in the midst of their best seasons just like they wouldn't pay Berrios! Why even talk about those guys? They are going to try Farm guys who are not ready or they will get broken down Tommy John guys and hope to revive them. That's the Twins way, Save a Buck is number one rule. We all know that! Stop dreaming.
D.C Twins reacted to Steve Lein in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos
Like all the options to try and replace Berrios. However, I don't think any of them are going to come cheaper than he would have so put the odds of the Twins being able to get one of them at virtually zero.
I shoot for Stroman as I think he's the one you'd have the best chance at if you're willing to overpay, and they will have to overpay.
D.C Twins reacted to Dman in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos
All 5 look like good possibilities but there will be steep competition to sign them so I doubt the Twins land one of them unless the price or years are in reach of what they deem acceptable. I would look at tier 2 pitchers being more realistic but I guess you never know. Still a fun list to dream on.
D.C Twins reacted to h2oface in Twins Minor League Report (8/3) Austin Martin Makes Debut
Bizarre first game for Martin.
So what does Miranda have to do to get put on the roster and help the Twins? Or do they just like to see him play in St Paul? Donaldson ain't playing anyway for the last 6 games. We know Rooker can hit...... and strike out like Sano (....and Larnach 48 times in last 105 ABs). But does Rooker really have a future (Did Palka have a future? Does Sano?)
Is there a reason the Prospect Summary isn't being updated with the new players yet?
D.C Twins reacted to LA VIkes Fan in The Twins Starting Pitcher With the Most To Prove
Guys, I think Ober's development is clearly a success. He's getting better every start and showing signs of being a consistent back end starter - 4 or 5 spot. Those guys do not grow on trees and are pretty valuable. Yes, he's not a #1 or #2 but that doesn't mean he isn't important. I can absolutely see him as the 4th or 5th starter at the beginning of next season.
There is one thing that puzzles me. I understand that we're watching his innings but why 4-5 innings for another 10-12 starts instead of 6 plus innings for another 7-8 starts? that's what we need next year - starters that can go 6 plus innings. Let's see if he can be one of those guys and whether he can navigate that 3rd time through the lineup. Yes, that mans shutting him down in early September but that might be a good thing. We have a lot of potential starters to evaluate THIS YEAR - Ober, Jax, Barnes, Ryan, Winder, Thorpe, Balazovic, at the very least. Leave a few starts for those guys. run piggy back starts - e.g., Jax as long as he can go followed by Barnes hopefully to the end of the game - but get these guys on the mound and find out if they're ready for the big time. Commit to the re-tool NOW, don't waste this year.
D.C Twins reacted to Danchat in The Twins Starting Pitcher With the Most To Prove
Sad? Becoming a #4 starter is a fantastic outcome for a 12th round pick. And if they were to go on a playoff run, he could move to the pen and possibly gain a couple ticks on his fastball, likely increasing his K rate.
This organization has a woeful track record with starting pitching, but Ober could be a sign of things to come.
D.C Twins reacted to roger in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin
He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential. And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand. Bah Humbug!
I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto. Why you ask? Looked at Toronto's draft last year. They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M. That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft. The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax. With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury.
So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher? Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next. Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years. Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.
None of us knows what the future holds for this young man. But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
D.C Twins reacted to Mike Sixel in Fact or Fiction: The Twins Way Didn't Work for Matt Shoemaker
Both..... My guess is that he wasn't good this year, and the Twins didn't help matters. I don't think that means the Twins don't know what they are doing, just that they were wrong in this case. That's going to happen. The key is being right more often than wrong.
D.C Twins reacted to LastOnePicked in Fact or Fiction: The Twins Way Didn't Work for Matt Shoemaker
Excellent write-up, Matthew. Well-researched and fair-minded. A home run.
I think this story hit some of us hard because it fits one of the fear narratives we have about this organization under Falvey/Levine and Baldelli/Johnson - that they've got a dogmatic approach, they think they're the smartest people in baseball, and they pay more attention to numbers than to players.
Plus, us fans have been hit hard by the reality that the team we had dreamed of seeing win a championship is now breaking apart and sinking to the bottom of MLB. "We had a 100-win pace ballclub for two years and all I got was this lousy AL Central Division Title T-Shirt."
But, as some cooler heads have posted here, it is possible that the Twins can adjust quickly. It is possible that some of the problems are internal, but some are maybe from the new players themselves and some are just a matter of terrible luck with regard to injury and recovery. And as you note here, in the case of Shoemaker, maybe it's all three.
That said, the Twins better be very open to criticism. They've traded away top players, they've given away new young stars for absolutely nothing, and, outside of Cruz, their FA signings performed terribly. They've got a lot of fair criticism coming this offseason - from fans and from players within the organization. Time to listen and to learn some hard lessons now.
D.C Twins reacted to mikelink45 in Week in Review: Deadline Frenzy
Toronto view of Berrios I always like to look at the other side in trades. What do they think?
"Nevertheless, Berrios is now a Blue Jay and after clearing the necessary protocols and arriving in Toronto Saturday evening, manager Charlie Montoyo scheduled him to pitch yesterday in front of a home crowd that was not only happy to have baseball back at the Rogers Centre but was now able to witness the star deadline acquisition pitch against the Kansas City Royals."
"Overall, Jose Berrios had a great debut with the Blue Jays and showed fans across the country why it took two top prospects to get him into a blue uniform. Not only does the club have him for the rest of the season, but he will also be with the Jays next year as well, helping the team push for the playoffs over the next two years with a young core that can hit the ball a very long way."
In the Toronto paper - https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/opinion/2021/08/01/blue-jays-takeways-the-holiday-debut-of-a-starter-acquired-at-the-trade-deadline-its-been-the-start-of-something-good-before.html
D.C Twins reacted to ashbury in Trade Deadline Tracker: Twins' News and Rumor Roundup
Disappointing. But if the Dodgers are willing to settle for a good pitcher on an expiring contract, injury considerations aside, extracting a king's ransom for 1.5 years of Berrios might need a different trade partner.
Then again, could also be two teams negotiating through the media.... "Gettin' lotsa offers on Berrios, just FYI." "Thinkin' hard about someone else, in case you're wonderin'."
D.C Twins reacted to bean5302 in Miller: Several teams pursuing Berríos
With the kind of smoke around Berrios and the lack of any leaks regarding extension talks, I'd have to say I'm pretty confident he gets traded. I'm not surprised the Mets are balking after they absolutely stole Stroman from the Blue Jays. I think most fans were shocked at what the Blue Jays took. As I recall, it cast serious doubts on whether or not the Twins were even making an effort at all at getting Stroman.
D.C Twins reacted to Linus in Miller: Several teams pursuing Berríos
I would definitely deal Jose. He’s not signing here and this team has too far to go. I think next year should be a year of building and sorting things out with an eye towards 2023.
I wonder if the Yankees would trade Gil for Jake Cave?
D.C Twins reacted to whosafraidofluigirussolo in Trade Deadline Tracker: Twins' News and Rumor Roundup
Gore has been a super-touted pitching prospect in the past, but I've read that his recent performance has been iffy. That's a lot to bank on if you're trading the best pitcher you've developed in years. If it's a 1-for-1 swap, I think the Twins would be the ones to say no.
D.C Twins reacted to jorgenswest in 2021 Trade Deadline Week Rumors
Gallo to Yankees and the Rangers go for volume in prospects rather than the Yankees top prospects.
In the Twins case and I suppose most teams it is far better to go for quality over quantity. If they all are OK prospects they eventually end up in a 40 man/rule 5 crunch. You either end up losing a few or in the worst case you don’t end up in a crunch because only a few make progress.
If the Twins trade any of their under control assets they really need to hold out for the top prospects.
D.C Twins reacted to Mike Sixel in Game Score: Tigers 17, Twins 14
As I surmised in the game thread, I'm guessing that he didn't go to the pen for two reasons:
1. It is a lost season, and he and the FO want to see if their pitchers can get out of jams.
2. The FO is trying to deal (or willing to deal) the three RPs that were on the bench, and he was instructed not to use them before the game even started.
I'm guessing it is both of those.