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    glunn reacted to Nick Nelson in Week in Review: West Slide Story   
    A road trip to the West Coast only brought more despair for a team that is in a very bad way.
    After holding first place for much of the season, the Minnesota Twins now find themselves looking up in the standings and unable to stop the bleeding.
    Weekly Snapshot: Mon, 8/8 through Sun, 8/14
    Record Last Week: 1-4 (Overall: 58-55)
    Run Differential Last Week: -10 (Overall: +17)
    Standing: 2nd Place in AL Central (2.5 GA)
    Last Week's Game Results:
    Game 109 | LAD 10, MIN 3: Ryan Roughed Up, Dodgers Dominate
    Game 110 | LAD 8, MIN 5: Twins Once Again Can't Keep Up with LA
    Game 111 | MIN 4, LAA 0: Mahle Plays Stopper in Shutout Victory
    Game 112 | LAA 5, MIN 3: Bullpen Blows Late Lead, Twins Fall in 11
    Game 113 | LAA 4, MIN 2: Twins Go Out with a Whimper, Drop Series
    A bitter finish to the previous week carried over into Los Angeles, where the Twins were trounced twice straight by a team Dodgers team that completely outclassed Minnesota in all four match-ups on the season. 
    Now 1-9 against the Dodgers, Astros and Yankees, the Twins have done nothing to counter their rep for shrinking on the big stage, which is troubling because road trips to Houston and New York still lie ahead in this final 50-game stretch.
    It'll be a suspenseful seven weeks as the Twins run neck-and-neck with Cleveland and Chicago toward the finish line. Lapses and missteps now become extra costly, which made the missed opportunities in Anaheim so very frustrating. 
    The Twins are short-handed and could use some help. They won't be getting it from pitching prospect Matt Canterino, who's getting Tommy John surgery to address his persistent elbow issues, but they are hoping to get a handful of important players back in September, including Kenta Maeda, Bailey Ober, Josh Winder, and Trevor Larnach. All are at various stages of the comeback trail. Meanwhile, Randy Dobnak is ramping up to in hopes of making it back to the mound in what's been a lost year. 
    With their rotation looking wobbly in July, the Twins knew they needed some help at the top. They went and got it by acquiring Tyler Mahle from the Reds. After an underwhelming debut against Toronto, Mahle took the hill in Anaheim on Friday night and looked the part of a stopper and #1 starter, firing six scoreless innings to lead a shutout for the pitching staff in the week's only victory.
    The right-hander unleashed a barrage of fastballs, splitters and cutters against the Angels, inducing 12 swings and misses on 86 pitches. Notably, manager Rocco Baldelli came out for a chat with two outs and two on in the bottom of the sixth, but let Mahle stay in to finish the inning.
    Offensively, Luis Arraez keyed the lineup, with seven hits in 16 at-bats, lifting his league-leading batting average to .333. After starting the month of August in a bit of a slump (just 2-for-19 in his first four games), Arraez notched three hits apiece in four of his next give games, mixing in a solid dose of power with five doubles. What a freakin' hitter. 
    No matter what happens from here, the Joe Ryan trade was a success. His initial run in the majors alone was well worth the price: two months of Nelson Cruz at the very tail end of his effectiveness. I do think Ryan will settle in as a quality mid-rotation option. 
    But the dream of him emerging as a frontline pitcher is fading fast. We're starting to see the flaws and limitations that made Tampa feel okay with letting him go, despite spectacular minor-league numbers. Ryan's latest outing in SoCal wasn't as brutal as the last, when he was hammered by San Diego for 10 runs on five homers, but it sure wasn't good.
    The Dodgers teed off against Ryan for six runs (five earned) on nine hits over five innings. Granted, it's one of the best lineups you're going to see, but they made the rookie right-hander look flat-out overmatched, just as he did against the Padres, and the Mariners, and the Astros.
    The fact is Ryan hasn't been very effective for a while now – his ERA is at 4.83 since the end of April – and the biggest hiccups seem to come against playoff-caliber lineups. That's bad news for a guy who would likely be slotted to start in a theoretical postseason series ... if the Twins get there.
    It'll be a moot point if he and the rest of the pitchers don't step it up. Mahle aside, the Twins are repeatedly getting let down by the arms they brought in to bolster this staff. On Wednesday Sonny Gray fell apart in the fifth inning, surrendering a two-run lead in an eventual loss. On Saturday against the Angels, Jorge López blew his second save in three tries since coming aboard – a staggeringly ugly outing that saw him cough up a two-run lead against the bottom of a bad Angels lineup. Emilio Pagán came on to pitch in extras and, true to form, gave up a walk-off home run.
    Gray, López, Pagán ... these are all pitchers the front office brought in with big trades, and now the team's fate has been tethered to them in significant ways. If things continue to trend the way they have, we know where the accountability will lie (beyond the players themselves). 
    Of course, the bats need to do their part too, and haven't been. The lineup went 0-for-14 with RISP in Saturday night's loss, striking out 15 times. They followed by going 0-for-4 with RISP on Sunday, managing two runs in six innings against Angels starter Tucker Davidson, who entered the game with a 7.91 ERA. The Twins have scored more than five runs just twice in 12 August games, with the explosiveness they showed so frequently in the first half going amiss.
    The loss of Alex Kirilloff is felt, and magnified by other key players mired in deep funks. Max Kepler is 0-for-27 since coming off the injured list. Carlos Correa has been a non-factor for the better part of two months, although he started to show some life over the weekend in Anaheim.
    Byron Buxton is frequently unavailable (we learned last week that his knee injury flared up during a leap at the wall in the Padres series) and failing to deliver sufficient impact when he plays. Pitchers have begun to take full advantage of Buxton's uber-aggressive approach – reflected in a .206 average and 36% K-rate since the beginning of July. By his own admission, Buck's approach has been off in recent weeks: "Taking a lot of strikes, swinging at a lot of balls." Incidentally, Buxton and Correa have both been among the biggest culprits for the team's lack of timely hitting. 
    The AL Central remains a very winnable division but to be frank, these guys aren't playing like they want or deserve it.  
    Can the lifeless Twins regroup and re-energize in front of their fans at Target Field? That's the banner question entering a stretch with 13 of the next 16 games at Target Field. Once the calendar flips to September, Minnesota will face perhaps its most daunting and consequential portion of the remaining schedule: three games at White Sox, four at Yankees, and then back home for three against Cleveland. 
    What kind of position will they be in once that stretch comes around? That'll be decided in the remainder of August, starting with a pair of series against lesser opponents in the week ahead.
    The Twins faced left-handed starters in all five games last week and they'll get them in three of the first four next week. They are really missing Kyle Garlick right now. Alas, there's no room for making excuses.
    Facing two lackluster teams at home with their season hanging in the balance, the Twins absolutely need to go win both of these series at a minimum. 
    MONDAY, 8/15: ROYALS @ TWINS – LHP Kris Bubic v. RHP Joe Ryan
    TUESDAY, 8/16: ROYALS @ TWINS – RHP Zack Greinke v. RHP Sonny Gray
    WEDNESDAY, 8/17: ROYALS @ TWINS – LHP Daniel Lynch v. RHP Tyler Mahle
    FRIDAY, 8/19: RANGERS @ TWINS – LHP Martin Perez v. RHP Dylan Bundy
    SATURDAY, 8/20: RANGERS @ TWINS – RHP Glenn Otto v. RHP Chris Archer
    SUNDAY, 8/21: RANGERS @ TWINS – TBD v. RHP Joe Ryan

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    glunn reacted to Hosken Bombo Disco in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    Gladden said something to that effect this afternoon. 
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    glunn reacted to jkcarew in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    Still think the roster was deep headed into the season.
    But you’ve had underachieving/hurt Kepler, no Sano, no Kirilloff, no Lewis, basically no Larnach, missing Garlick, zero from Jeffers, 3/4 of Buxton, and a slightly underachieving Correa.
    Meanwhile, the pitching staff is not constructed to carry the club.
    They simply are not a very good team as is…and it’s been this way for a while now.
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    glunn reacted to roger in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    The Angels aren’t a very good team.  But they are better than the current version of the Twins.  What an ugly trip West.
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    glunn reacted to bean5302 in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    This road trip hurt. Cleveland beat Toronto and the White Sox beat Detroit today.
    The Twins are now tied with Chicago and 2.5 games back from the Guardians.
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    glunn reacted to Otto von Ballpark in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    Winder is still on the AAA injured list — hasn’t pitched anywhere in over a month now.
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    glunn reacted to D.C Twins in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    Kepler is 0-27 since returning from the IL. 
    Whether injury (most likely due to his toe) or ineptitude, he needs to sit for a bit.
    This alone is nowhere near the extent of our problems (Baldi... not that you care, but your overall use of the pitching staff hurts my soul), but certainly a worthy place to start 
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    glunn reacted to jimbo92107 in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    Chris Archer's numbers cry out for a shift to the bullpen. Used for 2 or 3 innings, he may be an excellent reliever. More than that, he gives up too many runs to keep the team in the game. Like other relievers, he will be unshackled from the limitations of pacing himself, so he can cut loose with his best heaters and sliders, for 1 or 2 innings. 
    Promote Josh Winder to Archer's spot, DFA Emilio Pagan, and move Archer to the pen. Solves two big problems. Winder has the stuff and the endurance to go 5 or more innings, and Archer should be able to snuff out most lineups for an inning or two. 
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    glunn reacted to mikelink45 in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    I am not ready to say the team is done, but I need something to hold on to.  Can we have a comeback win?  Can Rocco let a pitcher that is hot pitch an extra inning?  Will we ever get a hit with a runner in scoring position?  Can we get a laugher where Emilio Pagan can pitch without pressure?  Does Cole Sands pitch again?  Do we have to see Kepler at bat again?  I am not asking a lot, just a couple of these options to help me out.  I just came back from 10 days in Canada along the great lakes and now will take 10 days going down the Ohio River - can I come back from one of these trips and find the world of TD in glee over the wonderful winning streak?????
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    glunn reacted to Theo Tollefson in Angels 4, Twins 2: Road Trip Ends in Bitter Disappointment Against Anaheim   
    After an awful walk off loss on Saturday night, the Twins went into their series finale against the Angels on a mission to regroup and prove to themselves they are still a playoff contending team. That mission failed as the Twins dropped their second series of a five-game road trip returning home with only one win. 
    Box Score:
    SP: Chris Archer 4 IP, 4 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 5 K (65 pitches, 45 strikes (65.8 strike %))
    Home Runs: Byron Buxton (28)
    Top 3 or Bottom 3 WPA: Chris Archer -.168, Jose Miranda .-126, Jorge Polanco -.110
    Win Probability Chart (via FanGraphs)

    The first two innings for the Twins were all Byron Buxton and Chris Archer. Buxton put the Twins up 2-0 in the first with his 28th homer of the season, Correa being the other run scoring and reaching on a walk in the previous at bat. 
    Archer continued from the progress of control he had shown in his previous start against the Blue Jays. For his first two innings, 21 of 29 Archer’s pitches were in the strike zone and he struck out half of the batters he faced to get outs as well. 
    Command of the strike zone began to slip for Archer in the third. Archer threw 22 pitches to that point, but only 11 landed in the strike zone as he issued his first walk of the game against Shohei Ohtani which put Archer in a jam with two on and two out facing Luis Rengifo. 
    Rengifo tied the game up 2-2 with a bases-clearing double making contact on a slider high in the strike zone and away. Archer averted further damage striking out Tyler Ward in the next at-bat with only three strikes. Still, the Twins found themselves tied once more and needed to mount the offense for another comeback for the second day in a row. 
    The Twins failed to break the tie in the top of the fourth. This gave the Angels an opportunity to do so. And they did. Jo Adell led off the bottom half of the inning with a double and later scored on a sacrifice fly from former Twin Kurt Suzuki that put the Angels up 3-2. 
    The Twins did get their first base runner since Buxton’s homer in the fifth with a two-out Sandy Leon double. Luis Arraez followed up next but failed to drive him home.
    Archer’s afternoon would be done after four innings and mark his second straight start of allowing one or fewer walks. Archer last accomplished this feat in June during his June 19 start against the Diamondbacks with no walks, and his June 25 start against the Rockies with one walk. Trevor Megill would come into the game in place of Archer. 
    Carlos Correa ended the 5th after Ohtani walked. Ohtani attempted to steal a base off Megill but Leon made a perfect throw right to Correa, who didn’t even turn his head to tag Ohtani out and keep the game at 3-2, Angels. 
    The game would remain uneventful for the Twins hitters over the next two innings. Buxton provided the only excitement in the top of the sixth with a single and his fifth stolen base of the season. 
    Pitching-wise, things got as ugly as usual. Megill continued to work the sixth, found himself in a jam of two on and two out but averted any damage. Michael Fulmer, who pitched the seventh, found himself in the same jam with one out and gave up an RBI single to Ohtani to make it a 4-2 Angels lead. 
    The Angels came close to scoring another run in the next at-bat but Jorge Polanco threw out the runner advancing home to keep the score at 4-2. 
    The Twins could not follow up Polanco’s smart defensive play with any offense for the rest of the game. Correa managed the only hit for the Twins in the game's final two innings while the Angels took home a win and series victory to finish out the Twins five game road trip
    What’s Next? 
    The Twins return home Monday for a seven-game homestand. The first series is against the Royals beginning Monday night at 6:40 p.m. Joe Ryan is scheduled to make the start for the Twins against the Royals Kris Bubic. 
    Postgame Interview (Bally Sports Tweets)
    Coming soon.
    Bullpen Usage Spreadsheet


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    glunn reacted to mrtwinsfan in Game Thread: Twins @ Angels 3:07 8/14/2022   
    after the dodger beatdown, we had a chance to have a 3-2 road trip , Now its a possible 1-4 trip,   big game today
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    glunn reacted to chpettit19 in Game Thread: Twins @ Angels 3:07 8/14/2022   
    Due to too much fun at the Saints game last night, today's game thread will be like a Chris Archer start...short and not overly sweet. 
    After another frustrating loss in a game they should've won last night the Twins woke up today still 1.5 games out of first in the central and 1 game out of the final wild card spot. Plenty of season to go for the hometown boys to get things turned around and heading in the right direction, and that hopefully starts today! 
    Chris Archer vs Tucker Davidson on the mound
    Arraez 1B
    Correa SS
    Buxton DH
    Miranda 3B
    Polanco 2B
    Celestino CF
    Gordon LF
    Leon C
    Cave RF
    Fletcher 2B
    Ohtani DH
    Rengifo 3B
    Ward RF
    Adell LF
    Walsh 1B
    Suzuki C
    Sierra CF
    Velazquez SS
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    glunn reacted to tony&rodney in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    There is something odd about a MLB starting pitcher who is a veteran needing to be sat down after 65 pitches against a very poor hitting opponent. The velocity shown by many pitchers today is impressive but most of the velocity is from relief pitchers. Ryan sits around 90-92 with Bundy checking in a few clicks higher and Mahle around 92-95. These are all very good fastballs but not out of the ordinary for good pitchers in the 21st century. Why is there such a drop in pitch counts in the last few decades? Bert Blyleven would groan when a pitcher was taken out with 100-110 pitches, suggesting that when a guy is cruising along throwing another inning was practical. If 100 pitches is a standard for a decent starting pitcher, where does the Twins management team derive their opinion that 60-80 is the ceiling for most of their pitchers? Mahle threw 100+ pitches in ten starts for the Reds but now cannot reach 90 pitches? 
    There must be some model the Twins use but it sure isn't working as the bullpen has struggled to fill five innings per game all year. When a team develops a strategy based on the models they deem most likely to produce a positive outcome and it results in a series of fails, there needs to be some reflection. The refusal to consider some change, adjustment, or just some different trial runs in game philosophy in many areas seems just stubborn at this point; pride maybe. The Twins seem to disdain running, bunting, sacrificing, IBB, and other parts of the game. Most egregious is how the model decides the moves and not the performance being shown. Thus we don't see "let him pitch- he is strong" or "he is off-get him out of there" and other human decisions. The Twins management must be watching the games but there are times it isn't obvious. There would never be a place for Tom Kelly or Ron Gardenhire in this organization much less a guy like Terry Francona. I'm mystified as to the plan.
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    glunn reacted to bean5302 in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    That was a beautiful attempt by Gordon. He couldn't have played it better with an almost perfect straight angle to the ball and he missed the ball by an inch off the tip of his glove, not feet, like a Jake Cave dive. If Gordon doesn't go for the catch, there's no telling which angle the ball takes as it bounces off the wall in the corner of left field. Regardless, 2 runs score as it was 2 outs so the runners went on contact with a run already crossing the plate as Gordon was getting up from his dive and another runner on their way in. Even worse, there's no out at the plate. No, now there's a runner on 2nd or 3rd with 2 outs and a tie game. Things worked out the absolute best way they could, ironically.

    Attached is an image of Gordon's route. He took virtually a perfect angle on that ball. 

    I should clarify. Orange is the line drive path. Black dots are Nick Gordon and Carlos Correa. Gray dots are the other fielders (Byron Buxton runs all the way over to Gordon). Blue is the throw from Gordon to Correa.

    The problem is at the center of the red circle... or it's the runners paths. Either way.

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    glunn reacted to roger in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    The high point of the game for me was, 1) Arraez, 3 for 3 with a walk when I went to bed after 9; and 2) Bundy pitching great.  Why he didn't get another inning, I don't understand?  Maybe they wanted him to have a good experience and got him out before he wouldn't?
    I don't understand pinch hitting for certain players whenever the pitcher changes, ie, Becham for Celestino, then whoever for Becham with Gordon coming into left field.  Had they just left Celestino in the game, he is a more experienced outfielder and may have played the 9th inning ball differently.  Doubt he would have caught it, but anything other than getting to the wall and the Twins may have won in 9.
    Beginning to wonder whether any of these relief pitchers can go two nights straight.  Lopez wasn't all that sharp.  Who is left for today?  Is Sands still on the roster?  If he is, he may have to pitch 4+ innings.
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    glunn reacted to terrydactyls in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    Just a few random thoughts.
    Did anyone else notice that Otani did not touch second base when he scrambled back to 1B after Buxton's diving catch?  Unless the rules have changed since I was an umpire, a runner must retouch any base he passed when retreating.  Is that still the rule?
    Bundy looked very good through five innings.  I thought he would definitely return for the sixth.
    Thielbar looked unhittable.  I don't understand why he was taken out in the middle of the inning.
    Twice in the late innings, Kepler came to the plate with a runner on and the shift used.  The first time, the first pitch to him was belt high on the outside half of the plate and he let it go by.  That was a perfect time to hit one to the left side.  In both at bats, he grounded out to 2B who was playing 60 feet into the outfield.
    So many opportunities to advance the ghost runner and not a single attempt at a bunt.  That is sad.
    I have been a supporter of Baldelli all year.  But as a Twins fan from 1500 miles away, I haven't had too many chances to watch games.  MLB Network has shown both the Dodger games and all the Angel games this week and now I have a better understanding of the complaints.  I was talking to the TV quite often this week, questioning what the heck was he doing????  
    Other than watching Arraez and Miranda, watching the Twins hit is painful.  Correa had a good game yesterday, but the rest of this week he looked inept at the plate.  Still fun to watch throwing the ball, but I'm not sure that's worth $35M a year.
    These west coast games take a toll on an old man in Maine so I'm going to sign off now and take a nap.
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    glunn reacted to jorgenswest in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    They had a very fast runner on first taking off with two outs. The ball is slicing to the corner. There is no way that runner holds at third. There may be a chance at the plate but the best chance to win that game In 9 was to catch that ball.
    We might argue with the defensive positioning. Sierra had just missed a double down the left field line on the previous pitch. He was not catching up to the fastball. Gordon should have been moved closer to the line. 
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    glunn reacted to Karbo in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    I am called old school because I believe you let the starter go until he is either tired or ineffective. I think it's simple logic to save the pen for another inning. Especially with a weaker pen. With the rule limiting the number of relievers this year, either you need innings from the starters or a couple of 2-3 inning relievers. I just can't understand why this whole management team, from the FO down, can't grasp such a simple problem.
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    glunn reacted to Blyleven2011 in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    It was a very discouraging loss ...
    There goes my 10 game winning streak they needed and I wanted ...
    As a passionate fan my enthusiasm is waning  ....
    No killer instinct in the players approach to hitting  , no motivation from the manager to fire up the team ,,, if the plan isn't working it is  time to change the plan ...  
    As the game was getting late and we had a 3-0 lead I was thinking of the three consecutive  shutouts the twins pitched  against Kansas city in 2004 , (  radke  , lohse and Santana  )  , I was getting excited about another possible consecutive shutout  of course with multiple pitchers  , bundy should have been  allowed to pitch further into the game ,,, he bulldogged  ....
    What Rocco's spread sheet don't tell him is , the more pitchers you have pitch in the game , the more likely  one or more are going to have a bad night pitching  ...
    Tough loss , a really tough loss 
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    glunn reacted to Otto von Ballpark in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    I think you could have an aggressive strategy to pull Bundy there -- but not after a game where you aggressively pulled Mahle too.
    An extra inning from Mahle on Friday day could have saved Fulmer for Saturday or prevented Durán and López from pitching back-to-back nights. Either of those advantages could have ultimately won the game for us Saturday, without risking the game Friday.
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    glunn reacted to adjacent in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    Also you have to consider who your pitcher is. The batter is their clean up hitter, a guy that can hit home The batters that came after him are no good, much less likely to hit home runs . Pagan is likely to give a beach ball down the middle that can be a home run. I think the situation was for an IBB. 
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    glunn reacted to Mark G in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    I seem to remember giving two separate situations then, and I surely gave a separate one today.  And the one today involved us issuing the IBB, not the opposition, and using it to pitch to their version of Cave (or at least a lesser batter than the clean up hitter on their team).  More than one person told me going for the strike out is better then, and I am wondering if we felt that way last night.  Either way, it didn't work for them last time, and it didn't work for us last night.  Maybe we should try it now and then.  
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    glunn reacted to rv78 in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    Kudos to Bundy. Should have went 6 or 7 and quite possibly even more. Will never get the chance with the current Manager who's in love with his imploding bullpen. Offense is what it is, pathetic. Can't get more than 2 guys to hit in the same game when it counts. Archer for 4 innings today and 6 relievers. Use the get-away lineup today and rest Buxton, Correa and Arraez. Gotta stick to the "Plan".
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    glunn reacted to AlwaysinModeration in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    Was it ill-advised for Gordon to dive for that ball?  If he fields it on a hop, the tying run holds at third.
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    glunn reacted to USAFChief in Twins 3, Angels 5: Angels Comeback, Win on Walk-off   
    Lopez had Stassi 0-2 and walks him in the 9th.
     If Gordon takes the proper angle, doesn't dive, and cuts that triple off, it's a double and Stassi doesn't score the tying run from 1st.
    And as MarkG points out, for the love of everything holy DRIVE IN SOME RUNS. 
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