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jharaldson got a reaction from Nine of twelve in Buxton can run like a flash on the base path but can't play right field?
Tony O was upfront with fans and media about his injury. It is well known that he wrecked his knee on a sprinkler head in Oakland. He missed most of a year with it and basically had no cartilage left after. The specificity of our knowledge about Tony and the distance that Byron keeps fans from his injury journey are basically not comparable.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Twinsrealist1 in Buxton can run like a flash on the base path but can't play right field?
Tony O was upfront with fans and media about his injury. It is well known that he wrecked his knee on a sprinkler head in Oakland. He missed most of a year with it and basically had no cartilage left after. The specificity of our knowledge about Tony and the distance that Byron keeps fans from his injury journey are basically not comparable.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Vanimal46 in Buxton can run like a flash on the base path but can't play right field?
Tony O was upfront with fans and media about his injury. It is well known that he wrecked his knee on a sprinkler head in Oakland. He missed most of a year with it and basically had no cartilage left after. The specificity of our knowledge about Tony and the distance that Byron keeps fans from his injury journey are basically not comparable.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Hosken Bombo Disco in Buxton can run like a flash on the base path but can't play right field?
Tony O was upfront with fans and media about his injury. It is well known that he wrecked his knee on a sprinkler head in Oakland. He missed most of a year with it and basically had no cartilage left after. The specificity of our knowledge about Tony and the distance that Byron keeps fans from his injury journey are basically not comparable.
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jharaldson reacted to CRF in Buxton can run like a flash on the base path but can't play right field?
I'd just like the FO to level with the fans and tell us EXACTLY wtf is really going on with him. That would end all the speculation. Is there permanent damage to his knee, that will never improve? What did they discover when they went in there the first time? Does he need another procedure done? Why can't he play the OF, but he can still run/slide/etc? Just tell the truth...what's the big secret?
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jharaldson got a reaction from Heinie Manush in Byron Buxton's body
One of my main concerns is that we are all playing doctor based on how Buxton looks. We haven't been given any medical diagnosis or information on an injury. Here is what Falvey said last year to Do-Hyoung Park last year when Buxton was getting his knee scoped:
When Buxton can to Spring Training, Dan Hayes reported:
When fans are told he has a non-serious knee injury that has fully healed with no limitations and then see a guy who can't even play 3 outs in the outfield they get confused. I would just like some straight talk from the front office. Does he have 60% of his meniscus missing after various knee injuries? Does he have a partially torn ACL they are nursing so he can avoid a year long recovery? Does he have migraines or concussion issues and being in the sun that long is causing him pain? Why so much confusion?
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jharaldson got a reaction from Kipp35 in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from SF Twins Fan in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Karbo in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from TwinsRealist in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from tarheeltwinsfan in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Ted Schwerzler in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from DocBauer in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from mikelink45 in What Defines Success for Byron Buxton in 2023?
In the 5 years since his last full season of 2017 he has averaged 55 games a year in CF:
2018 - 27 2019 - 78 2020 - Short season so can't compare 2021 - 60 2022 - 54 He may be a 4 fWAR player based on the 54 games in CF last year plus his DH time but his lack of health contributed to the extended amount of playing time for Cave and Celestino in CF which in my mind had negative value for the team. For 2023 to be a success for Buxton he needs to find a way to be healthy enough to play 100 games in CF and be available for the playoffs should the Twins make them.
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jharaldson got a reaction from KGB in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Original_JB in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from TwinsDr2021 in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from RakeCave in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from jjswol in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from roger in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Nashvilletwin in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Swing Batter-Batter in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Mark G in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from Hosken Bombo Disco in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.
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jharaldson got a reaction from USAFChief in In the End, the 2022 Twins Never Stood a Chance
I disagree with some of your analysis and level of blame:
Kirilloff - The Twins went into last offseason and this spring training knowing they did nothing to fundamentally address Kirilloff's wrist injury which was a significant issue in 2021 already. The fact that this lingered and has resulted in a more definitive surgery in 2022 is a failure of the Front Office and something that was an easily foreseeable outcome of their decisions. Paddack - The Twins acquired Paddack knowing he had a partially torn UCL. Best case outcome was they get by for a season or 2 like they did with Maeda. Worst case was a complete tear and loss for the season. It looks like the Twins used their luck up in situations like these with Maeda and they got the worst outcome. Losing Paddack in 2022 was an easily foreseeable outcome and another Front Office failure. Mahle - He literally just came off the IL from a shoulder injury and we now know he was receiving special shoulder therapy because of issues from that. Perhaps there is a reason he was cheaper than the other frontline starters available at the deadline. This is another item the Twins Front Office needs to own as their failure. Buxton - The Twins Front Office knew that Buxton was a significant injury risk and that is why he was relatively cheap. The Front Office knew what they were getting into and if Cave and Celestino have not filled in as well as one might have hoped, that is the choice Front Office made. Ober/Winder - Both guys came into the season with injury issues. As Gleeman frequently states, if you want to count on young pitching then make sure you have 2/3 times as many young pitchers as you need. Joe Ryan was the 1 success and Ober and Winder are the 2 failures. This is a foreseeable outcome for the Twins Front Office. Maeda - The Twins acquired Maeda knowing he had elbow issues that would require surgery back to his signing with the Dodgers in 2016. Getting a season and a half out of him was good luck. The Front Office knew he was out for 2022 and should have planned accordingly. In short, when the Front Office is asked to value skill, cost to acquire, cost to own, and injury risk, they seem to always come down on the side of injury risk being the thing they care least about. I have no sympathy and a lot of blame to place on Falvey and Lavine when those injuries happen.