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    Loosey reacted to TopGunn#22 in Trade Target: Frankie Montas   
    He's been a target of mine in several trades I've proposed on this site after working them thru on Baseball Trade Values.
    He is certainly a young, controllable pitcher who would look great heading the Twins rotation.  I always preach "quality" over "quantity" whether it's a Vikings draft of 15 players after Spielman traded back 5 times or in the case of trades in baseball.  However, I find the Twins in a difficult position.  If I was building out a pitching staff and I already had Berrios & Maeda to go with Ryan and Ober, I'd be earnestly trying to put together a trade for Montas.  The problem is, there is no Berrios or Maeda.  We need QUANITITY" just as much as we need "QUALITY."  That's what makes Chris Bassitt such an attractive target to me.  He's nearly on a par with Montas but would cost a LOT less.  I'm saving Jeffers and Larnach for a blockbuster with the Marlins and putting a package together headed by Arraez to get Bassitt and Manaea.
    Here's the trade I posted on Baseball Trade Values as TonyO6
    A's Get:  Arraez  33.3  Rooker  1.7  L. varland  .50  =  35.5
    Twins Get:  Bassitt  17.0  Manaea  18.5  = 35.5
    If I had to, I'd probably subtract Varland and add a little more to the deal to get both these pitchers.  I acquire "QUALITY" but also "QUANITITY" as I fill TWO rotation spots.  The A's don't need Jeffers (they've got one of the top, young catchers in baseball in Murphy), but the Marlins DO need Jeffers.  I aim high and package Jeffers 19.2 and Larnach 18.9 with Woods-Richardson 14.5 and Urbina 4.2 (total 56.8) for Pablo Lopez (57.1).  If I don't aim that high, I can lower what I'm offering and go for a Max Meyer 22.2 or Sixto Sanchez  27.5.  
    I'm rebuilding the rotation with quality.  If Balazovic, Duran, Canterino, Winder, Sands and later Petty develop I can always trade pitching from a position of strength (like the Marlins are here).  PITCHING is Baseball's most sought after asset, and if used intelligently, will always bring back QUALITY.  
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    Loosey got a reaction from Greglw3 in ROSENTHAL: Byron Buxton Trade “Likely”   
    The Twins are diluting his value.  On one hand they are saying $80MM is a stretch.  But when they turn around and try to trade him any team looking to acquire him will point to that saying he is worth the equivalent of just less than Dexter Fowler if they are going by salary.  Just offer him his worth and if he doesn’t live up to the salary oh well,  It happens, you can’t hit on a big time signing every time.  Sometimes you do other times they get hurt, or just don’t play well enough..  in this case most reasonable fans would be ok as long as they paid him and he got hurt or his play slipped.  Letting him go will not be ok with most reasonable fans.
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    Loosey got a reaction from spanman2 in ROSENTHAL: Byron Buxton Trade “Likely”   
    The Twins are diluting his value.  On one hand they are saying $80MM is a stretch.  But when they turn around and try to trade him any team looking to acquire him will point to that saying he is worth the equivalent of just less than Dexter Fowler if they are going by salary.  Just offer him his worth and if he doesn’t live up to the salary oh well,  It happens, you can’t hit on a big time signing every time.  Sometimes you do other times they get hurt, or just don’t play well enough..  in this case most reasonable fans would be ok as long as they paid him and he got hurt or his play slipped.  Letting him go will not be ok with most reasonable fans.
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    Loosey got a reaction from beckmt in ROSENTHAL: Byron Buxton Trade “Likely”   
    The Twins are diluting his value.  On one hand they are saying $80MM is a stretch.  But when they turn around and try to trade him any team looking to acquire him will point to that saying he is worth the equivalent of just less than Dexter Fowler if they are going by salary.  Just offer him his worth and if he doesn’t live up to the salary oh well,  It happens, you can’t hit on a big time signing every time.  Sometimes you do other times they get hurt, or just don’t play well enough..  in this case most reasonable fans would be ok as long as they paid him and he got hurt or his play slipped.  Letting him go will not be ok with most reasonable fans.
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    Loosey reacted to Vanimal46 in ROSENTHAL: Byron Buxton Trade “Likely”   
    If we somehow end up trading Berrios and Buxton within a calendar year of each other, I’m going to have to take some time to see if I really want to prioritize the Twins and MLB in my free time. The pain is going to be too much to handle. 
    The FO created 2 self-inflicting, horribly managed situations. There’s still time to right this ship before it’s too late and a trade occurs  
     
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    Loosey got a reaction from Danchat in The 2021 Twins Are the Most Disappointing Team Since…   
    1993 and 2011 main because those were teams that had some expectation to be playoff contenders.  Then not only weren't they, it was a precursor to many seasons of losing.  Essentially those were abrupt windows being slammed shut.
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    Loosey reacted to Old Twins Cap in Prospect Retrospective: Justin Morneau   
    Somone needs to tell the story of 2006, that was the year he turned a huge corner.
    It was at the beginning of May, and I think the Twins were on the West Coast.  Morneau was having a pretty bad year at the plate up to that point, and frankly, so were the Twins.
    Supposedly, Gardenhire called him into his office, was it in Seattle?  Told him he could be a someone if he would just focus on hitting the ball hard, not worrrying about whether he was any good.
    Maybe it was me, maybe I am romanticizing this somehow, but starting the next game and lasting for the rest of the season, Morneau exploded as a hitter and the Twins had one of their best seasons ever. 
    In fact, the funniest part of that whole season:  The Twins were never in first place the whole year.  And their season was over, their last game ended with a win.  But, after their season was over, I think it was Detroit lost their last game in extra innings and that made Twins the Division winners.
    So, Morneau and the Twins played the whole schedule out and were never in first but ended up there after Detroit lost later in the day. 
    He was fun to watch.  If you look at that Center Field camera when the pitch is coming in to Morneau, his eyes open really wide when he sees a fat one coming at him.  You can literally see his eyes light up.
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    Loosey reacted to bean5302 in What is the status of Simeon Woods Richardson?   
    The Blue Jays are still in the hunt for a wildcard spot today, even with Berrios recently pitching poorly and taking 2 losses in his last 3 appearances. The Blue Jays are hungry, willing to spend money and they have a very talented core. Arguing teams shouldn't try to go for a World Series when their window is open is best left to the Twins' ownership.
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    Loosey got a reaction from Steve Lein in What is the status of Simeon Woods Richardson?   
    Remember when the Twins drafted Tyler Jay 6th  and Walker Buehler when 24th in 2015?  Not really related to this thread but thought I would bring it up so we can stop arguing about where a prospect is ranked and complain about that.
    I hope Ryan and SWR end up be a sweet 1-2 starting combination in a few years.  And realistically their prospect ranking will hav no bearing on that.  That being said I am with Brock on this, Ryan is more MLB ready, but SWR probably has more upside due to age, etc and that is why he is ranked ahead.  
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    Loosey got a reaction from Hosken Bombo Disco in What is the status of Simeon Woods Richardson?   
    Remember when the Twins drafted Tyler Jay 6th  and Walker Buehler when 24th in 2015?  Not really related to this thread but thought I would bring it up so we can stop arguing about where a prospect is ranked and complain about that.
    I hope Ryan and SWR end up be a sweet 1-2 starting combination in a few years.  And realistically their prospect ranking will hav no bearing on that.  That being said I am with Brock on this, Ryan is more MLB ready, but SWR probably has more upside due to age, etc and that is why he is ranked ahead.  
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    Loosey got a reaction from James in What is the status of Simeon Woods Richardson?   
    Remember when the Twins drafted Tyler Jay 6th  and Walker Buehler when 24th in 2015?  Not really related to this thread but thought I would bring it up so we can stop arguing about where a prospect is ranked and complain about that.
    I hope Ryan and SWR end up be a sweet 1-2 starting combination in a few years.  And realistically their prospect ranking will hav no bearing on that.  That being said I am with Brock on this, Ryan is more MLB ready, but SWR probably has more upside due to age, etc and that is why he is ranked ahead.  
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    Loosey reacted to DocBauer in MLB gives first proposal re New Payroll Rules   
    Honestly, I think this is a great INITIAL presentation. I say INITIAL because the $180M "soft cap" is too low and the union will want to keep it around $200M. And from their perspective, they SHOULD want that. And the union SHOULD be ECSTATIC about a $100M floor! But I doubt a lot of owners want it. They'd be much happier with something like $80M. But we're only talking about a swing of $20M both directions and everyone SHOULD be happy and satisfied with that as the $ numbers are the same overall. 
    The ONE PROBLEM I see with this is the union has shown....shall we say "little regard"...for young players previously. They have either been controlled by or solely occupied by the BIG $ of prime players to this point IMO. IF they are TRULY focused on ALL players, then they HAVE to realize a $80M floor and $200M "soft cap" actually RAISES the floor and medium $ of ALL of their members. They HAVE to be intelligent enough to see this, right? Not only does a floor work in other sports, but MLB has NEVER had anything even REMOTELY close to a payroll floor.
    Second point? If there is a floor, and teams are forced to meet that floor, not only do FA and arbitration players have to be offered more to meet that floor, but there should also be a natural and progressive change in regard to minimum salaries for rookies and 2nd year, 3rdyr players, etc. 
    The luxury tax "soft cap" is around $200-210M NOW. So if we take the $180/$100M proposal and just slide a few $M here and there, how does the union lose anything? They gain massive $M for their membership! And the owners maintain a measure of "soft cap" control for major market teams and attempt to find more competitive financial balance for the league as a whole, similar to the the more successful and very sturdy NFL model.
    The ONLY way this doesn't work, with a few tweaks, is if the union is pushing for HUGE gains of $250M/$150M numbers which I would speculate serious damage to MLB. Forget the books for a moment, those kinds of numbers would exceed any other sport. 
    This proposal WORKS with tweaks.
    Third point? There is nothing wrong with the current system for drafting/signing players and your rights to them. Again, an actual FLOOR for payroll means obvious increases for per year salary. Teams can offer up more for FA, or arbitration, and/or the minimums per year can also jump another $50K per year as a starting point.
    Again, some cost control for the franchises, but how does the union and it's players/members lose anything? They don't!
    A 4th point? The DH will be universal going forward. Everyone wants it. It's going to happen.
    A 5th point that shouldn't be dismissed? The union has never given a rat's ass about the milb system, which has always bothered me tremendously! And maybe it's just me as a fan who really understood and appreciated some of the weird dynamics of 2020 and roster construction. But one thing that came out of 2020 that seemed to make sense and WORK was the 28 man roster. Would a full time/universal DH format push the union to jump to a 27 or 28 man roster format? Again, ownership itself has proposed a financial floor. The last couple of spots on most teams would be low impact $ wise. But it COULD improve the game.
    I am not pro player or ownership, I am pro BASEBALL and the health and development of the sport. And there are more problems to be addressed in regard to public opinion and viewrship than the next CBA. But for TODAY we are only talking about this latest proposal presented.
    With some obvious tweaks, as presented, tell me the "bad guy" ownership hasn't offered up an olive branch proposal that makes initial sense?
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    Loosey reacted to Cap'n Piranha in MLB gives first proposal re New Payroll Rules   
    I could.  The list of MLBPA members making $2m or less is much larger than the list making $20M or more.  If the owners were truly smart, they would put forth a proposal that would set minimum salary at $2M, but cap the max salary at $20M-$25M.  You think Ober, Jax, Arraez, Kiriloff, Larnach, Gordon, Astudillo, Garcia, Gant, Garza, Jeffers, etc. are all going to vote against a tripling in their pay, just so 30-40 players can make 30 to 35 times what they do, instead of 10 times?
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    Loosey got a reaction from stringer bell in GAME THREAD: Guardians v Twins, 8/18 @ 12:10pm CT   
    Michael Nakamura and forever minor leaguer James Beresford
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    Loosey reacted to roger in In Defense of the Twins Front Office   
    Well written, Nick.  Will agree with you and those who are willing to give them more time to complete their plan.  But when looking at last night's box score and the standings, that gets a little hard some mornings.
    I expect that they understand this year is over.  Good to see them making lots of waiver claims for guys like Garcia and Garza, then giving them a try-out pitching for the Twins.  It's been only one game, but Garcia looks like he could be part of next year's bullpen...as Grant does.
    There is no question that injuries have been HUGE for them this year.  But when I look at their every day lineup, with maybe a little tinkering it could be good enough to compete for a title, assuming reasonable health.  And for me that starts by getting a deal done with Buxton as their record shows when he is on the field.  Is going to be fun to see what they do about pitching this winter, and then the results come April/May.  Personally, I hope they go for quality over quantity and get one top starter and two top relievers with the young arms filling the gaps.
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    Loosey reacted to mikelink45 in Game Score: Twins 5, Astros 3   
    Just an all around good game.  Jax and Ober are learning and making their mark, now to start some more young pitchers and see what we have.  Let them learn in this lost year. 
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    Loosey reacted to yeahyabetcha in Four Players the Twins Could Trade This Winter   
    Trading 3 important regular starters (when healthy) and the only one late inning bullpen  option from the current roster would not be the direction I would go with this team.
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    Loosey reacted to jmlease1 in Reasons for optimism   
    there's a group of pitchers I'm really interested in: Balazovic, Winder, Canterino, Ryan, Woods-Richardson, and Duran. All have the potential to be really good; none of them look like they're going to be total flame-outs. I wish for good health there so we can find out just how good sooner rather than later.
    Jose Miranda brings a smile to my face every time I see his batting line. I love seeing a guy have a breakout year where they unlock something that pulls all their ability and drive together into big-time success. It's getting harder and harder to see this as a fluke; if it was you'd think he'd slow down when he got promoted or something. But literally every metric looks good for him.
    Twins have some young hitters coming through that are tough outs, and I like that too. Kirilloff, Martin, Miranda are going to wear some pitchers down (along with Arraez) and could help balance out the lineup. You can afford to have big power, low BA guys like Sano and Rooker (that's my guess on Rooker, but I'd love for him to prove me wrong) when they're balanced with guys who don't rack up K after K after K after K and still do damage to the ball.
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    Loosey reacted to MN_ExPat in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos   
    Well said Doc.  Love it .  Pretty much my thoughts on the whole thing.
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    Loosey reacted to DocBauer in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos   
    I've been contemplating the intent of this OP for days now before it was written. And I've been reading and stewing on every post. And you can like me or hate me for my following thoughts. Up to you.
    1] Two years ago, Berrios deliberately took the Twins to arbitration to see how the process worked. He losses, but "only" a couple thousand dollars. Last year, he settled with the Twins for a fair raise and didn't test the system. He was obviously content with the outcome, all things considered. As I recall, he stated he went to arbitration the year before to see and test the system for his future and the future of other players. If he was any kind of malcontent who hated being a Twin, why did he sign so easily for 2021?
    2] Speculate all you want to, but we have NO IDEA what was presented to Berrios this year, or the last couple of years, for an extension. Period! He was willing and wanting to stay if the Twins hit a certain UNMENTIONED number. Did he want $25M? $30M? We don't know, just as we don't know what the Twins offered. While I ABSOLUTELY don't want to speculate, the offer could have easily been in the $15-18-20M range with incentives that he didn't like because he wanted to test the market and bet on himself. And that's his right, as much suckage as it might be to us fans. Where do I get my speculative numbers? Because.....
    3] ...the Twins offered Darvish over $20M a couple years ago and were a finalist before the Cubs added on another guaranteed year. Decide for yourself how that turned out. The Twins then offered Wheeler $25M per but were told "no thank you" because he wanted to remain on the east coast. 
    So just STOP with the Twins didn't try unless we hear details that provide something other than sour grapes.
    4] The Twins have $ to offer one of the top FA SP on the market. The proof is $ available, previous offers, and an overall roster that is still talented and quality with some tweaks and additions. And I have no clue if they will sign one of the 5 SP listed in the OP, or will make a surprise trade, or go a short contract for someone like Verlander or Greinke. 
    Unless he accepts a qualifying offer, my first dream signing is Thor. He might not want a long term deal. Fine. How about a 1yr deal with incentives and a 2nd year option which would be about $20M plus year one and $25M the second year. A risk to be sure but the payoff could be great!
    All 5 of the guys listed in the OP have at least some risk. And all come with big $ attached.  But any one of them could slot in to replace Berrios if the FO  makes the right choice.
    FA, Maeda, Pineda, or similar signing, to fill the front 3 with an open audition and rotation for the final 2 rotation spots is still a recipe for success if the pen is re-built. Other than a short option at SS, no pun intended, this IS at least a .500 team who could easily contend in 2022.
    There IS a SP pitching pipeline in the works! And some may find their success in the pen. And MAYBE the best option IS a Verlander/Greinke 2yr deal to just bridge a gap. I honestly don't know if the answer is about a short term,  aged veteran with a year or two left is the answer, or someone in the OP is the key.
    But I do know there is too much talent on this roster to punt 2022. Give me the RIGHT choice for a SP addition, and Pineda or better, you'd still have $ to add a couple pen arms.  $40-50M sounds like a lot, but its not in professional BB. 
    Time for the FO to step forward. 
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    Loosey reacted to Mike Sixel in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos   
    Because:
    1. Berrios said he wanted to test FA.
    2. Now they can sign a player of Berrios quality, have him here for more than just 1 year, and have two great prospects. Every team should do stuff like this. Every. Single. Team. 
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    Loosey reacted to Mike Sixel in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos   
    Berrios made it clear he wants to test FA. We have no idea if they'll sign a relatively expensive pitcher or not next year. I'm out of the game of getting mad at the team for not doing something they can't possibly do yet....
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    Loosey reacted to Dodecahedron in 5 Free Agent Options for the Minnesota Twins to Replace José Berríos   
    Berrios comps to Brad Radke, who ultimately was not difficult to "replace."

    The problem is, the Twins had Santana then, plus a revolving bunch of other pitchers who were almost as good as Radke.  Radke retired at a good time for the Twins.  (Although playing good defense can make any pitcher look better.)
    Right now the Twins have...?
    The point is, this will be less about replacing Berrios for the Twins.  They have to make a lot of big decisions.
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    Loosey got a reaction from LA VIkes Fan in José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays   
    I really do not want them to Trade Buxton.  Sign him and build around him.  I do like the Berrios deal.  If SWR is as good as we hope could he be in the big league rotation next year?
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    Loosey got a reaction from gunnarthor in José Berríos Traded to Blue Jays   
    I really do not want them to Trade Buxton.  Sign him and build around him.  I do like the Berrios deal.  If SWR is as good as we hope could he be in the big league rotation next year?
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