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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Dman in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Except they've openly stated that the plan isn't to have him play SS everyday, it's to move him around the field so he's comfortable playing other positions when he's needed again. 
    He played a more than serviceable SS in his short stint and was doing quite well at it in St Paul. Plus they watched him take an insane amount of grounders during the 2020 season and have been watching him in Florida for months as he's rehabbed. If they aren't sure if he can play SS or not by now they have their answer and it's that he can't play SS.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from DocBauer in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Except they've openly stated that the plan isn't to have him play SS everyday, it's to move him around the field so he's comfortable playing other positions when he's needed again. 
    He played a more than serviceable SS in his short stint and was doing quite well at it in St Paul. Plus they watched him take an insane amount of grounders during the 2020 season and have been watching him in Florida for months as he's rehabbed. If they aren't sure if he can play SS or not by now they have their answer and it's that he can't play SS.
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    chpettit19 reacted to Dave The Dastardly in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    FO: "We're going to hire a manager that uses data and analytics. The data says Lewis is the 4th best player on the team; therefore we're going to return him to the AAA team."
    Illogical.
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    chpettit19 reacted to Doctor Gast in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Concur with you, playing 1B is a waste of Lewis talent but if that was the difference of them keeping Miranda and sending down Lewis that is asinine, If Arraez can learn 1B on the fly, so can Lewis and he'd excel. If you can play at SS, switching to 3B & 2B is easy, if you can play CF switching to LF or RF is easy (yet they think that a corner OF can play CF with NPs, really!), They have asked a few players, who weren't as athletic or didn't have the make up of Lewis, to make more of an transition on the fly,
    Lewis can learn much more being near Correa than what he can in AAA. He doesn't need to get his feet wet, they've been wet. He's the type of guy that if you throw him in the middle of the lake he'll swim (almost all rookies I would not say that). We need our best players on the 26 man, Lewis belong there. There is no excuse. 
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    chpettit19 reacted to Tim in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    I have a really tough time finding any reason that justifies sending him down. 
    look at what the Padres did with CJ Abrams, a SS by trade, to start the season. He was hitting so well in spring training they decided that getting his bat in the lineup, regardless of position, gave them the best opportunity to win. 
    He played SS, LF, RF, and 2nd.
    Tatis comes back, clearly short isn't an option. Oh same problem with the Twins .. Correa comes back, short isn't an option.
    This situation is no different. Abrams was coming off a major knee injury as well and if he was able to prove he could hit at the MLB level he'd still be up in San Diego because that helped the team.
    Royce Lewis on the other did prove he can hit MLB level pitching.
    I really do not understand this whole argument for getting him reps at SS just for defensive development. If that's the logic we want go by, then don't even bother bringing up the rest of the season.
    He clearly is athletic enough to play any of the 3 outfield positions. He has and can slide 15 feet over to 3rd, especially for a SS with his arm and the range + ability to make throws charging in (we saw it plenty in the 11 games he played) .. It's not like were throwing a fielder of Luis Arraez's caliber over there. (arod, hanley ramirez, machado, etc all did it midseason).
    Nick Gordon - 259 / 292 / 309
    Gio Urshela - 226 / 280 / 330
    Royce Lewis - 308 / 325 / 564 ... (top prospect, future cornerstone)
    Worried defensively?
    Arraez played 1st, 3rd, and LF in MLB with less than 10 games played in minors at any.
    Gordon played ZERO in the OF before being thrown out there.
    What in the world are we doing .. Your in 1st place, if he gives you the best opportunity to win, there's no reason to have him play in AAA getting reps shagging balls in left or taking grounders at 3rd. 
     
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from mikelink45 in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Except they've openly stated that the plan isn't to have him play SS everyday, it's to move him around the field so he's comfortable playing other positions when he's needed again. 
    He played a more than serviceable SS in his short stint and was doing quite well at it in St Paul. Plus they watched him take an insane amount of grounders during the 2020 season and have been watching him in Florida for months as he's rehabbed. If they aren't sure if he can play SS or not by now they have their answer and it's that he can't play SS.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from wabene in Game Thread: Twins @ Athletics, 5/18/22 @ 2:37 CT   
    Nice to see Gary heating up with the weather. They seem set on DHing him a ton so he needs to keep heating up.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from heresthething in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    I hope they aren't playing Urshela simply because they just traded for him a month and a half ago. If he isn't the better player (and it's hard to argue he is at this moment) then he shouldn't just automatically get to start because he was a recent acquisition. I'd bet his glove plays well at 1B, too. That'd give the Twins 4 guys who have started games at SS in the majors in their infield. That doesn't sound too bad.
    I hope anyone suggesting the FO didn't think things through are exaggerating their stance. But it's fair to question what the front office is weighing. I think you may be correct and part of why they're playing Urshela is because they traded for him thinking he could be the everyday 3B. I also think it's fair to question how cautious they're being with Lewis playing other positions. I don't really get what alternate reason they have for sending him down since he's past any service time concerns (unless they don't plan to bring him back basically at all this year and then they should be fired). I spent all offseason predicting Lewis would thrive from basically the jump. I can't imagine the FO knew how he was looking after 2020 and his rehab leading into ST and had no idea he was basically ready for the bigs, but maybe they were surprised by his immediate success. 
    To me this all feels like they had a plan for how the season would go, then for what they'd do if Correa got hurt, and they simply aren't willing to adjust on the fly. Their plan was for Lewis to be in AAA basically the whole year other than to fill in for any Correa IL stints. They planned for Urshela to be the everyday 3B. They planned and planned and now I think we're seeing an example of their inability to adjust quickly. I think it's a weakness of this FO/brain trust (I think Rocco is highly involved as well). They hold onto their plans too long (Colome closing, Happ and Shoemaker starting for examples). I think that's what we're seeing and I don't think "this was the plan" is a good enough reason to send down one of their current best players.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Otto von Ballpark in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    There's no trades or DFA type moves that need to be made. Miranda needs to go down. Don't know anybody who would argue that. Garlick is a bad defender who only hits against lefties and has an option left. Those are 2 reasonable moves that could be made while putting Lewis at 3B to start over Urshela who has a great glove, but about a .600 OPS. There's no need to reduce any depth to keep Lewis in the majors.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from rwilfong86 in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Except they've openly stated that the plan isn't to have him play SS everyday, it's to move him around the field so he's comfortable playing other positions when he's needed again. 
    He played a more than serviceable SS in his short stint and was doing quite well at it in St Paul. Plus they watched him take an insane amount of grounders during the 2020 season and have been watching him in Florida for months as he's rehabbed. If they aren't sure if he can play SS or not by now they have their answer and it's that he can't play SS.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from heresthething in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Further prepare him for a return? What are they preparing for him to do on his return? Hit .408 instead of .308?
    Royce Lewis is a better baseball than Urshela, Gordon, Celestino, and Arraez today. Arguing that he shouldn't start over any of those players today is crazy to me. Arraez only plays against righties and his best defensive position without a doubt is DH. I don't care if Celestino and Gordon are the backup OFers because Lewis shouldn't be a backup. Maybe he falls apart like Larnach did last year and then this is a different discussion. But today he is the 4th best player the Twins have. And you're arguing it's hard to get him ABs over their 12th-14th best players and Arraez. Blows my mind. Play your best players. Not all that complicated to me.
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    chpettit19 reacted to rwilfong86 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Or play Urshela at first and platoon him there with Arraez, 
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    chpettit19 reacted to Mike Sixel in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    I'm good with that....like I said earlier, I'd have sent Miranda down and played Lewis. 
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from KirbyDome89 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    The answer to his playing time is that he takes over for the starter (like Urshela) who then moves to the bench. Lewis jumps to the top of the depth chart and everyone else moves down a spot, including someone to AAA.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from TheLeviathan in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Your question isn't accurate. None of those players need to go anywhere. They can carry a max of 13 pitchers starting May 29th. They will carry 13 pitchers because they always do. Until then they're likely to carry 12 position players and 14 pitchers. 
    12 position players: (Garlick would be in for Larnach until he comes back)
    Byron Buxton
    Carlos Correa
    Jorge Polanco
    Luis Arraez
    Gio Urshela
    Gary Sanchez
    Ryan Jeffers
    Nick Gordon
    Gilberto Celestino
    Max Kepler
    Trevor Larnach
    Royce Lewis
    Then once they have to send a pitcher down on the 29th they can call Garlick back up. Or Miranda. Or Kirilloff. Or Godoy. Or Contreras. Or whoever in the world they want. But you can pose your Arraez, Urshela, Sanchez, Gordon, Celestino question all you want. None of them need to go anywhere in order to keep Lewis. As I've now said 3 times Kyle Galick, who is an awful defender and only hits against lefties, is the guy I would send down.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Danchat in Game Thread: Twins @ Athletics, 5/18/22 @ 2:37 CT   
    Nice to see Gary heating up with the weather. They seem set on DHing him a ton so he needs to keep heating up.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Hunter48 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    There's no trades or DFA type moves that need to be made. Miranda needs to go down. Don't know anybody who would argue that. Garlick is a bad defender who only hits against lefties and has an option left. Those are 2 reasonable moves that could be made while putting Lewis at 3B to start over Urshela who has a great glove, but about a .600 OPS. There's no need to reduce any depth to keep Lewis in the majors.
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    chpettit19 reacted to KirbyDome89 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    It's baffling that a team struggling to consistently score runs would decide to send down a high profile prospect who's easily one of their best current players. To boot, we're concerned about PT for Garlick, Urshela, Gordon, or one of a handful of bullpen dart throws had Lewis stayed? "He'll be back up soon enough," isn't a rationale for the decision, it's just blurting out a nonspecific fact that ignores all context. I'd love to see a Venn diagram of those that favored this season as a "development year," and those defending the decision to send Lewis down. The future seems to be now, it'd be nice if the Twins got the memo. 
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Hunter48 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    He played CF in the AFL and looked like he'd been doing it his whole life. You should go watch the highlights. They're fun. Nick Gordon figured the outfield out on the fly at the ML level and, no offense to Nick, Lewis is the better player so I'm not sure why he'd struggle greatly with that. He'd be a better LFer right now than Kyle Garlick or Brent Rooker or Trevor Larnach have been for the Twins.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Hunter48 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    If it takes another injury or a trade to get him back up if he's still mashing in AAA I'm going to turn into one of the people who start calling for heads, and I really don't like being that kind of person for the exact reason you mention (they have more info, and frankly, are smarter than me). But if he continues to hit in AAA there is no reason not to have him replace Urshela or anyone else not hitting for the Twins. Play your best players. Especially since they're past the service time cutoff anyways. I just don't get any strategy now that isn't playing your best players as often as they can play.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Hunter48 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    We certainly don't know. And I generally give them the benefit of the doubt cuz they have so much more info and know the bigger picture, but I don't follow the logic of sending down one of you top 4 players. For any reason. I just think you find a place to get your best players on the field.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Hunter48 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    I hope they aren't playing Urshela simply because they just traded for him a month and a half ago. If he isn't the better player (and it's hard to argue he is at this moment) then he shouldn't just automatically get to start because he was a recent acquisition. I'd bet his glove plays well at 1B, too. That'd give the Twins 4 guys who have started games at SS in the majors in their infield. That doesn't sound too bad.
    I hope anyone suggesting the FO didn't think things through are exaggerating their stance. But it's fair to question what the front office is weighing. I think you may be correct and part of why they're playing Urshela is because they traded for him thinking he could be the everyday 3B. I also think it's fair to question how cautious they're being with Lewis playing other positions. I don't really get what alternate reason they have for sending him down since he's past any service time concerns (unless they don't plan to bring him back basically at all this year and then they should be fired). I spent all offseason predicting Lewis would thrive from basically the jump. I can't imagine the FO knew how he was looking after 2020 and his rehab leading into ST and had no idea he was basically ready for the bigs, but maybe they were surprised by his immediate success. 
    To me this all feels like they had a plan for how the season would go, then for what they'd do if Correa got hurt, and they simply aren't willing to adjust on the fly. Their plan was for Lewis to be in AAA basically the whole year other than to fill in for any Correa IL stints. They planned for Urshela to be the everyday 3B. They planned and planned and now I think we're seeing an example of their inability to adjust quickly. I think it's a weakness of this FO/brain trust (I think Rocco is highly involved as well). They hold onto their plans too long (Colome closing, Happ and Shoemaker starting for examples). I think that's what we're seeing and I don't think "this was the plan" is a good enough reason to send down one of their current best players.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from TheLeviathan in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Kyle Garlick. As I mentioned and you again ignored.
    But why wouldn't a pitcher be an option? With Bundy back they appear to be putting Winder back in the long relief role. Ober is coming back before Larnach. So they'll have plenty of pitchers. Why wouldn't that be an option?
    And, yes, I'm focused on keeping the best players in the majors. Why would anything else be the focus? 
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from Hunter48 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Further prepare him for a return? What are they preparing for him to do on his return? Hit .408 instead of .308?
    Royce Lewis is a better baseball than Urshela, Gordon, Celestino, and Arraez today. Arguing that he shouldn't start over any of those players today is crazy to me. Arraez only plays against righties and his best defensive position without a doubt is DH. I don't care if Celestino and Gordon are the backup OFers because Lewis shouldn't be a backup. Maybe he falls apart like Larnach did last year and then this is a different discussion. But today he is the 4th best player the Twins have. And you're arguing it's hard to get him ABs over their 12th-14th best players and Arraez. Blows my mind. Play your best players. Not all that complicated to me.
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    chpettit19 got a reaction from wsnydes in Game Thread: Twins @ Athletics, 5/18/22 @ 2:37 CT   
    Nice to see Gary heating up with the weather. They seem set on DHing him a ton so he needs to keep heating up.
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