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It's a good team and should make the playoffs. Really enjoying Arraez' break out.

It's a good team and should make the playoffs. Really enjoying Arraez' break out.

I completely agree. This looks like about 80-85% of a WS contending team. We need another late inning bullpen arm, a #2/#3 type starter and one more bat. If we were playing in the AL East we'd win 80-85 games. In the AL Central though, 90  wins is there for the taking. 

It's a good team and should make the playoffs. Really enjoying Arraez' break out.

It's a good team and should make the playoffs. Really enjoying Arraez' break out.

It's a good team and should make the playoffs. Really enjoying Arraez' break out.

This does not fill me with confidence.

A few days late with this, but...
https://www.mlb.com/video/eduardo-escobar-hits-for-cycle-x7341
I know some folks think hitting for the cycle is a little precious ( for example, isn't it even better to have a single, double, and 2 HR's?), but I applaud the feat and I deeply love watching Eddie Escobar play.
I checked up an him a couple weeks back and his numbers this year had me worried his productive years were drawing to a close, but since then, he's rebounded with a hot streak and he owned the place on Monday.
He's one of my favorite players in recent years and I never would have traded him away. That would have kept us out of the Josh Donaldson era, but in fairness, I'm loving Jhoan Duran. So there's that.
Anyway, Go Eddie!
 

https://www.outsports.com/2022/6/5/23155403/tampa-bay-rays-lgbtq-rainbow-pride
 

There are a lot of problems with this but to cut through all of it, it is 2022. Homophobia - which is what these players are showing - should be mocked. The Rays should have, as the article suggests, been out in front of this like other organizations have done so this didn't happen. 
Also, this is my fairly annual reminder that you all can usually march in the pride parade. Just reach out to organizations that are registered. It's a lot of fun. 

I think the MCU works because they had some pretty decent source material. Credit to them for adapting and altering them as needed of course. But the comics had some pretty fun concepts which work well for a film blueprint.
Forgive me if others have found it different, but I read a couple of Star Wars books in the late 80's early 90's, and even as a kid, I knew what I was reading was inconsistent and pulpy, and not in a fun way. They didn't have any grand ideas like comic books, they were basically just poorly written adventure stories trying to vaguely tie into some loose thread from the films people remembered. Those books were not enjoyable to me. I was also reading Lord of the Flies and Lord of the Rings, so I could tell the difference between quality literature and commercialized pandering.
 

It’s really a pity to me that we can’t have an honest discussion on these issues and instead get the ‘what abouters’ doing their thing claiming some kind of constitutional freedom or religious right to object to people who have done nothing to you. There is a reason we have protections for people who are demeaned, threatened, and violated in countless ways. Shame on all of you for claiming a righteous path when Jesus’ message is about loving one another and not just people you think deserve it.
thread closed. 

There are a lot of problems with this but to cut through all of it, it is 2022. Homophobia - which is what these players are showing - should be mocked. The Rays should have, as the article suggests, been out in front of this like other organizations have done so this didn't happen. 
Also, this is my fairly annual reminder that you all can usually march in the pride parade. Just reach out to organizations that are registered. It's a lot of fun. 

My Christian church flies a rainbow flag and adamantly supports the LGBTQ community. This isn't a situation where you can only be Christian or a civil rights supporter. You can absolutely be 100% both, just like the majority of Americans. These guys are intentionally choosing not to be supporters.

It was a group of Christian players and Jason Adam gave a statement about their stance. Their stance was that they didn't want to "encourage it if we believe in Jesus, who's encouraged us to live a lifestyle that would abstain from that behavior, just like He encourages me as a heterosexual male to abstain from sex outside of the confines of marriage. It's no different." That's the quote from Jason Adam, who I hope saved himself until his wedding night.

There are a lot of problems with this but to cut through all of it, it is 2022. Homophobia - which is what these players are showing - should be mocked. The Rays should have, as the article suggests, been out in front of this like other organizations have done so this didn't happen. 
Also, this is my fairly annual reminder that you all can usually march in the pride parade. Just reach out to organizations that are registered. It's a lot of fun. 

There are a lot of problems with this but to cut through all of it, it is 2022. Homophobia - which is what these players are showing - should be mocked. The Rays should have, as the article suggests, been out in front of this like other organizations have done so this didn't happen. 
Also, this is my fairly annual reminder that you all can usually march in the pride parade. Just reach out to organizations that are registered. It's a lot of fun. 

There are a lot of problems with this but to cut through all of it, it is 2022. Homophobia - which is what these players are showing - should be mocked. The Rays should have, as the article suggests, been out in front of this like other organizations have done so this didn't happen. 
Also, this is my fairly annual reminder that you all can usually march in the pride parade. Just reach out to organizations that are registered. It's a lot of fun. 

Something to note is that sponsorships are coming to MLB uniforms and I suspect when that happens, teams will not be interested in listening to players who refuse to wear the sponsorship of a company they dislike.
Which makes the Rays' decision the wrong one to make. If they'd make a different decision because money was involved, they shouldn't make a different decision here.

At the risk of wading into the deep end, I just don't get this one from the players. One of the players was stating that his refusal to wear the patch was a "faith based decision".  I don't know what his faith is (none of my business) but as a Christian, his faith must be something other than Christianity. 

Players are also under contractual obligation to perform roles and they're paid handsomely to do it.
This seems like a colossal screw-up on several levels, though. The Rays should have known well ahead of time how players were going to react to this and altered their approach to adapt. Either make the players wear the uni or don't play them that day. Do something to not make what should be a pretty low-key celebration into a sideshow.
Inversely, it's pretty sad that so many won't acknowledge that gay people exist in this space and are not villains. They're just people doing their thing and deserve the respect and consideration to be open about who they are.

Who told you we want to see you?

It's amazing how many new accounts sprung up on TD just to push anti-vax views. Russian troll bots are going after baseball forums!!!

It's amazing how many new accounts sprung up on TD just to push anti-vax views. Russian troll bots are going after baseball forums!!!

Yeah, good point. Wally Pipp someone.