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    DocBauer got a reaction from RonCoomersOPS in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    I'm probably too smart or progressive as a highly intelligent semi-middle class individual to fully appreciate this bit of news as I've argued for a couple of years now that if I were an owner I'd be working hard to make MY organization a model one.
    The Ft Myers complex is state of the art. But why would I stop there? Unless there were restrictions placed on me, I'd be offering as much salary as I could for milb players, as many benefits as I could for them, as they are the lifeblood of my franchise.
    Why not make players and agents eager to work with me? Why not give the players in my milb pipeline all the advantages I could to contribute to the future success of my ML team?
    I would have been doing this years ago. 4 kids in a 1 room or 2 room apartment? Kids sleeping in their cars and dreaming of being on the road so they could sleep in a bed vs an air mattress? 
    I think the "select" has to be attributed to 40 man roster players, as well as those who may already have access to dormitories,  etc. But we will see.
    I don't think the arguement of "short term leases" is really that big of a deal. There ARE complexes who do short term leases. And you're going to tell me that in milb cities they don't already do this?
    Regardless,  it's time the franchises stepped forward to do something like this. Not only should have been done before,  but wish the Twins had been at the forefront.
    Goodness knows the MLBPA doesn't give a crap about milb, even though they all spent time there. 
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    DocBauer got a reaction from Mike Sixel in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    I'm probably too smart or progressive as a highly intelligent semi-middle class individual to fully appreciate this bit of news as I've argued for a couple of years now that if I were an owner I'd be working hard to make MY organization a model one.
    The Ft Myers complex is state of the art. But why would I stop there? Unless there were restrictions placed on me, I'd be offering as much salary as I could for milb players, as many benefits as I could for them, as they are the lifeblood of my franchise.
    Why not make players and agents eager to work with me? Why not give the players in my milb pipeline all the advantages I could to contribute to the future success of my ML team?
    I would have been doing this years ago. 4 kids in a 1 room or 2 room apartment? Kids sleeping in their cars and dreaming of being on the road so they could sleep in a bed vs an air mattress? 
    I think the "select" has to be attributed to 40 man roster players, as well as those who may already have access to dormitories,  etc. But we will see.
    I don't think the arguement of "short term leases" is really that big of a deal. There ARE complexes who do short term leases. And you're going to tell me that in milb cities they don't already do this?
    Regardless,  it's time the franchises stepped forward to do something like this. Not only should have been done before,  but wish the Twins had been at the forefront.
    Goodness knows the MLBPA doesn't give a crap about milb, even though they all spent time there. 
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    DocBauer got a reaction from se7799 in No Half Measures   
    Echo all previous comments that the proposed trade is disgusting and offers the Twins nothing more than a small pittance of financial relief and nothing more.
    Less we forget, Donaldson's injury this season was a hamstring issue and not the dreaded calf issue which has plagued him previously. He played in 135G, had over 500 PA and over 400 AB, albeit, some of those came as a DH. His numbers were very similar to his career production. And there is a very enlightening BLOG on TD where bean5302 really breaks down his season in minute detail that basically shows he might have been even better in 2021 with a little more BABIP luck and his skills haven't diminished. That means, decent health, a little more time spent at the open DH to assist and preserve, hes on target to again be a very productive hitter in 2022. 
    Except for a few bizarre miscues, especially early in the season when it seemed the Twins were under some kind of general/universal curse, his defense was again very good, though his range may have slipped somewhat.
    But let's stop there for a moment and look at the "dude" and not just the player. Donaldson is absolutely a "red ass" as a player. That is NOT an indictment of him as a person. It's a long held term for an intense player. And if you don't think the best Twins teams, including their 2 WS teams, didn't have a couple "red asses" on them you are either too young or weren't paying proper attention. He's a very different personality to the intense, but more laid back Cruz. But like Cruz, from the day Donaldson donned a Twjns jersey, players have flocked to him for advice on hitting and approach. And he has responded in kind. Despite a few on the field incidents that may have left a few of us shaking our heads, he has been totally professional and never been anything negative during this disappointing and frustrating season. 
    He brings offense, defense, experience and leadership as well as some "red ass" to 2022 that the Twins will need between 3B and DH. 
    His trade just won't bring back anything substantial enough unless it could, maybe, bring back a high quality back of the pen arm. Other than something of that nature, his value is remaining a Twin for 2022 and splitting his time between 3B and some time at DH.
    It's up to the Twins FO, and Rocco, and opportunity that always happens in regard to things like injury, to find room for Miranda and others to pave their way for 2022 and the future.
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    DocBauer reacted to LA VIkes Fan in 6 Questions that Will Determine the Twins' Offseason Course   
    Great post. The real problem is that the pitching and lineup are not in sync on the development curve. The lineup is close to being ready to compete and might be if Buxton plays 140 games. The pitching, both ends but particularly the rotation, is not. By the time the presently in house pitching is ready (if ever, always a crapshoot), the lineup will be too old or too expensive. So, which way do we go?
    I say we compete, mostly because I think we have enough on the farm to make a decent trade or two. On the 6 questions:
    (1) Lewis or Palacios may be the  long term solution so this next year we sign a stop gap. Freddy Galvis or Iglesias make sense. Save the $$$ for pitching. 
    (2) 2 new starters at a minimum, 3 if re-signing Pineda counts as "new". Sign one premium free agent like Stroman, Rondon or Jon Gray to a 3-5 year deal. Stay away from older types like Verlander or Greinke.  Stay far, far away from not quite there types like Alex Cobb or Danny Duffy. That spot goes to Pineda. Trade for one more starter - Alcantara or Rogers from Miami, Zach Gallen, someone like that and don't be afraid to part with real non-pitching assets like Martin or Miranda in combo with Kepler or Sano to get a good, young controllable starter.  Re-sign Pineda. Rotation goes Stroman, Alcantara, Pineda, Ober, Ryan. Don't worry about the other prospects getting an MLB chance in 2022; there will be plenty of IL time, etc. available for the others like Balazovic, Winder, Strotman, etc. to get a chance to show what they can do at the MLB level.
    (3) Go to arbitration with Rogers and pay him. If he appears healthy try to negotiate a 2-3 year deal by the AS break and if you can't, keep him if you're in contention, trade him if you aren't. If he isn't able to go physically, eat the arb salary with a smile - it was worth the shot.  
    (4) Don't play reliever roulette - keep the 6 guys mentioned, use guys like Jax or a FA to fill out the pen.  Keep Colome but only if Rocco promises he'll use a "closer by situation" approach, not a "Colome every time" approach. 
    (5) The DH is for rotation. Donaldson plays 50/50 DH and 3B, same for Arraez. When one sits, 4th Of (Celestino), or backup IF like Gordon or Miranda DHs. Do NOT sign a full time DH unless you trade Donaldson. You can't have both.  
    (6) SIGN BUXTON. He is one of the 2 keys to contention along with the rotation. Almost as importantly, signing him shows the team and the fan base that you're serious about winning. Will we need to over pay/take risk?  Yup. He's worth it. The twins cannot win consistently, or even every now and then, without taking significant risk. He is worth that risk.  
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    DocBauer reacted to mike8791 in 6 Questions that Will Determine the Twins' Offseason Course   
    Nick, nice summary as usual!!  To put some meat on the bones, would suggest we need answers to 3 critical questions:
    1.  What dollars are available to spend this offseason?  Glee-man in The Athletic laid out a scenario where the amount ranges from $45-60MM, depending on whether budget is $125MM or $140MM(which he posits as likely upper limit).
    2.  Is ownership really committed to contending again in 2022?  If taken at face value, budget had better be in $140-160MM range to come close to this goal.
    3.  What is FO position on Buxton - resign, trade or status quo?  Can anyone logically argue that Buxton is  not the key piece to rebounding in 2022?  If resigned, likely that Gleeman's $8MM amount for Buxton is far too low.  As most on this post have noted, Bux's incentives likely to push his 2022 salary to $20MM + if resigned.
    So let's assume available dollars are in $50MM range.  Now let's review your 6 key questions, keeping in mind that the FO's sole goal this offseason is have a contending team next year:
    1.  Lewis is a big unknown.  Not only because he's missed 2 straight years, but because his ability to handle SS is questionnable, at least from most scouting reports available.  This leaves Twins uncertain at this critical position, so FA would seem the way to go, but if the Twins play their usual waiting game, chances are they will not be able to fill this position long term; instead, a second level, but good fielding SS who can stay for 2-3 years is much more likely. There simply is no one in Twins farm system that appears anywhere near ready.  As Nick points out, this second tier is a big dropoff from first, but offense should withstand an average batter, good fielder at this critical position if current offensive keys like Donaldson, Sano, Bux, Polanco and Garver remain.
    2. Pretty obvious that Twins need to add three top rotation pitchers in offseason.  Pineda would seem logical as a #3.  The top two spots can be filled by FA and trade.  They should shoot high for a stud.  Ray, Rodon, Stroman - appear best bets if they do not get QO.  Guys like Thor or Gausman have more injury risk, hence lower cost.  In either case, for the FO to be successful in acquiring a front end arm, they would have to strike fast at onset of FA instead of waiting around the edge of the pool to see who is left.  Figure $20-25MM alone.  The #2 arm should be a fast developing, young established major leaguer like Lopez or Alcantara.  Such an arm would require an overpay, but Twins have excess in the catching dept.(Jeffers), in mid IF(Arraez, Martin or even Lewis)) or OF(Kepler) plus some good young pitching prospects not named Ryan or Ober.  I would not hesitate to include a Balozavic, Duran, Strotman or Woods-Richardson if one was needed to clinch a deal(I would not give up Winder or Canterino who look like the highest ceiling pitching prospects now).
    3.  Yes, Rogers should remain as a key cog in pen, but his inability to keep inherited runners from scoring should preclude him being the closer.  The FO obviously felt the same way, hence signing and starting Colome as the closer.  So addition of one shut down closer seems a necessary add for a contender.  Sure, a guy like Alcala could move into that position eventually but do you base your pen's success on a guy whose HR rate is almost 2 per 9 inn?  Kimbrel at $15MM might become available; if not, there's a second tier incl. Melancon, Iglesias, and Jansen, who should slot in nicely as a closer-type.
    4.  The rest of the pen showed improvment, albeit in the later part of 2021 when the team was far out of contention.  But guys like Duffey, Alcala, and Thielbar look solid enough, along with some newer arms like Moran, Coulombe and perhaps Duran to reduce number of needed outside additions.  Still, I would bring in one or two low cost FAs to build much-needed depth.  In any case, other than a closer, the pen should not take more than $5MM to upgrade.
    5. The DH should be a rotational position, filled by position players as Donaldson, Sano, and Garver who need occasional days off.  The hope is Miranda, Kirillof, and a FA catcher would be competent fill-ins for these guys.
    6.  We've already talked about Buxton.  If he is unsigned or traded, all ownership/FO credibility on contention in next couple years is a pipe dream.  That's how important Buxton is to near term success of Twins.
    Looks like a $150MM budget, bolstered by a couple of shrewd trades could vault us back into the discussion.  Building a championship team will take longer because its formation is largely dependent on successful development of prospects into major league contributors.  And a few lucky breaks along the way wouldn't hurt!!
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    DocBauer reacted to Sousy in 6 Questions that Will Determine the Twins' Offseason Course   
    100% in agreement.  I've never really understood the "don't plan to compete" especially when the core of the current team (especially in the lineup) is certainly capable of being a competitive team in the AL Central. Even in the expanded playoffs this year, the Red Sox are a team no one had pegged into one of these 'competitive windows', but being in the right place and getting hot at the right time can go a long way.
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    DocBauer reacted to Major League Ready in 6 Questions that Will Determine the Twins' Offseason Course   
    I think there is one question that will determine how the Twins approach the off-season… How good does the FO view their odds of contending next year and what would it take to make those odds realistic.  Also, does contend mean be in it with the Whitesox or does it mean they are equal grounds with Houston / Boston / NY / Tampa.  They would need to acquire two top of the rotation SPs, one of the top SSs, and a back of the bullpen arm.  That would cost around $90M in free agency.  
    Of course, they could trade prospects for one of those top arms and get it down to $60M.  It would mean trading away the prospects they would hope to get them to contention in 2023-24.  Anything less would not get them the type of SP they need.  So, the question is really will they trade away the future for a shot at 2022-23.  
    They are not spending $90M and I sure hope they would not trade away the future for a shot at 2022 that would still have relatively low odds. They still would not have a line-up that compares to Houston / Boston / NY / Chicago.  Houston has $32M from Grienke coming off this year so look for them to add a top SP.  There are a lot of available impact free agents this year.  Boston and NY are going to spend and they have resources we can’t compete with.
    2022 will not be a 100 loss season if they don’t fill every hole like some here like to suggest.  They played 500 ball the last couple months.  One good SP and a good SS along with getting Kirilloff back and this is a pretty good team.  I would like to see them get Chris Taylor to play SS and he can take another position if Lewis proves himself.  That’s a good team without mortgaging the future.  This path eventually has Larnach,  Miranda and probably Martin joining the team for a good part of 2022.  Of course, we have several pitchers that could (should) be ready at some point during the year.   I Would bet they take the path that gives them a good product in 2022 given that path probably gets better (contention) in 2023/24. 
     
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    DocBauer reacted to TopGunn#22 in 6 Questions that Will Determine the Twins' Offseason Course   
    #1 really won't be the first thing addressed and because the Twins won't address it immediately that might take them out of an All Star SS caliber player.  The fallback options like Chris Taylor, Jose Iglesias, Freddy Galvis could work (Taylor, may cost more than the twins are willing to give).  Paul DeJong could be a trade option (Sosa has beaten him out).  Gavin Lux might be available if the Dodgers bring Seager back for SS and Trea Turner plays 2B.  Not sure if the Dodgers would use Lux as a "super utility" guy (it's a similar situation as Lewis, is a former #1 prospect supposed to end up a utility player ??).
    #2  In my opinion, Verlander and Thor pose too great a risk.  I'd rather focus on Robby Ray, Danny Duffy, Marcus Stroman, Eduardo Rodriguez..  The Twins should certainly look to bring Pineda back at a reasonable salary.  But with Berrios gone, they should invest the money they should have with Berrios into a new #1.  You can never have too much pitching.  Some of our prospect pipeline guys will work out.  Some, surely won't. I want to see the Twins sign a #1 and then trade for young pitching with the Marlins and/or A's.  With all the YOUNG pitchers the Twins have, they will all be on innings limits.  The Twins need to fill the #1, #2 and #3 holes in the rotation at a minimum.  If the moves they make work out, and some of the young pitching not named Ryan or Ober make it up to the big league roster next year, the Twins have an opportunity to trade some of that young pitching as it would become an area of strength and depth.  Pitching ALWAYS gives you leverage when trading. 
    # & #4  I trust Taylor Rogers to come back.  But I'd listen on trade possibilities.  If I was considering trading Rogers, I'd look long and hard at what it might take to acquire Josh Hader from the Brewers.  The Brew Crew needs offense.  Hader is still ELITE, but the Brewers have internal options.  The Twins NEED a true closer.  But they have the makings of a pretty solid bullpen. 
    #5.  I loved Nellie Cruz.  His time here was productive and he's a great influence.  Unfortunately, roster construction by our current FO has not been good.  With Sano, Garver, Donaldson and a few others, they have adequate bats to fill the spot.  It just seems to make more sense to rotate guys through than to invest in a guy like Nellie (even at a reduced cost).  The money the Twins FO has to play with this off season needs to be invested in Starting Pitching, a SS and a Closer.  
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    DocBauer reacted to Nick Nelson in 6 Questions that Will Determine the Twins' Offseason Course   
    Thanks! The Twins don't view him as an everyday SS. I don't think any team would, really. He's not a strong defender there, and it's one of the most important positions on the field. At best it's somewhere he can play in a pinch. Also, he wasn't good this year. Do you really think his performance justified giving the starting SS job? 
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    DocBauer got a reaction from wabene in No Half Measures   
    Echo all previous comments that the proposed trade is disgusting and offers the Twins nothing more than a small pittance of financial relief and nothing more.
    Less we forget, Donaldson's injury this season was a hamstring issue and not the dreaded calf issue which has plagued him previously. He played in 135G, had over 500 PA and over 400 AB, albeit, some of those came as a DH. His numbers were very similar to his career production. And there is a very enlightening BLOG on TD where bean5302 really breaks down his season in minute detail that basically shows he might have been even better in 2021 with a little more BABIP luck and his skills haven't diminished. That means, decent health, a little more time spent at the open DH to assist and preserve, hes on target to again be a very productive hitter in 2022. 
    Except for a few bizarre miscues, especially early in the season when it seemed the Twins were under some kind of general/universal curse, his defense was again very good, though his range may have slipped somewhat.
    But let's stop there for a moment and look at the "dude" and not just the player. Donaldson is absolutely a "red ass" as a player. That is NOT an indictment of him as a person. It's a long held term for an intense player. And if you don't think the best Twins teams, including their 2 WS teams, didn't have a couple "red asses" on them you are either too young or weren't paying proper attention. He's a very different personality to the intense, but more laid back Cruz. But like Cruz, from the day Donaldson donned a Twjns jersey, players have flocked to him for advice on hitting and approach. And he has responded in kind. Despite a few on the field incidents that may have left a few of us shaking our heads, he has been totally professional and never been anything negative during this disappointing and frustrating season. 
    He brings offense, defense, experience and leadership as well as some "red ass" to 2022 that the Twins will need between 3B and DH. 
    His trade just won't bring back anything substantial enough unless it could, maybe, bring back a high quality back of the pen arm. Other than something of that nature, his value is remaining a Twin for 2022 and splitting his time between 3B and some time at DH.
    It's up to the Twins FO, and Rocco, and opportunity that always happens in regard to things like injury, to find room for Miranda and others to pave their way for 2022 and the future.
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    DocBauer reacted to roger in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    I seriously doubt, Sconnie, that MLB teams will be buying or building any housing, unless like the Twins have done at their spring training complex.  No way will they want to get involved being a landlord in four or five different markets, markets that could change whenever they move a team from city A to city B.
    More likely will work with the local teams to obtain X number of apartments for the baseball season., or as noted above a block rental deal with an Extended Stay property...if available in the market.
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    DocBauer reacted to bean5302 in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    I don't think the CBA really factors into this much. MLB players haven't traditionally cared about MiLB players when negotiating previous CBA's.
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    DocBauer reacted to Otto von Ballpark in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    I saw that in the MLB statement too. Hard to read too much into it yet -- I suspect that they may exclude 40-man roster guys in the minors, who already receive elevated pay and benefits.
    Of course, we have no idea how this housing benefit will be structured. There could be two separate components: arrangement assistance, plus a separate stipend to pay for it. Maybe all players will be eligible for the arrangement assistance, but only non-40-man guys get the stipend, etc. I expect it will all vary by city too, as some clubs offer different housing benefits already.
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    DocBauer reacted to bean5302 in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    Well, what I thought was a fair and helpful deal was the team signs leases instead of having their players sign leases to nearby apartments, then the team subleases to players. The optimal situation would be the team signs leases all the open rooms and buys out leases to a couple mid size apartments buildings to essentially turns those apartment buildings into dorms. I don't think it's a good idea to have MLB teams "own" the buildings. The apartment owners and management would still be in charge of operations, but it would ensure rooms were available and take away a big complaint many in these forums have made about how difficult they believe it is to find a place to rent.
    It's worth noting this seems to be coming from the MLB team's revenues rather than MiLB revenues. 
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    DocBauer reacted to Otto von Ballpark in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    Still not many details, but the reports all say the MLB teams will be doing it, which makes sense.
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    DocBauer reacted to TheLeviathan in MLB teams to provide housing for minor leaguers in 2022   
    'Bout damn time really.
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    DocBauer got a reaction from Minny505 in 3 Free Agent Pitching Additions Who Fit the Twins Offseason Strategy   
    A couple brief comments regarding the initial 4 points posted first:
    1] I firmly believe the Twins are at least 50/50 on signjng one of the top FA arms. They went hard after Darvish and were one of the finalists. The Cubs went an extra year and "won" his services. (Might have bumped the A/V a bit I can't remember). They were serious about Wheeler at $20M plus but had the door slammed immediately as he just didn't want to leave the east coast. But the point is, they HAVE previously looked at the big arms. I think they WILL look again. And if they succeed, well, awesome! But it will impact point #2.
    2] I DO think the Twins are going to trade for a rotation piece. I'm oblivious as to who and a bit sketchy as to how. Odorizzi and Maeda were virtual steals for a milb player, but can they do it again? Just a gut feeling, but I think the FO is looking to trade from their milb depth for an arm and wanting to keep the ML roster mostly intact at this point. I mean, we're talking about a re-tool vs a re-build so I don't see more than one roster fixture being moved.
    3] I believe Pineda is a virtual lock for about $8M. Maybe with a couple kickers thrown in. But to me, that's a re-sign and agree it's not like some "on the market" signing. And so that still leaves 2 holes to fill.
    4] I agree reinforcements are close. Could be as many as 4 or 5 ready by mid-season despite the disappointments of delayed development in 2021. But we're talking mid-season more than likely. You can't open 2022 on wishes and prayers to begin the season.
    I'm out on Greinke due to age and his previous reluctance to include the Twins as a tradeable team. Not saying I don't make a call to see if he's suddenly had a change of heart, but I don't expect it.
    I confess I don't know a lot about DeSclafini, but looked up his numbers. I'm OK with him but a little "meh". Not crazy about being 32yo, but if he really figuresd some things out and made some nice adjustments, he could be just as good working with Johnson. But are we talking a 1yr deal or something more? He could be an outstanding 1yr option, maybe some sort of 1+1 or option year, but I'm not willing for more than that at this point.
    Gray and Ray should almost be included together as they've both been mentioned in regard to the Twins as "potentials" the past few years as much as Stroman. Same age and similar careers. I could see either on 1 plus deal and could be OK.
    I think the Twins are out on any of the TOP SS options unless they wash out in the SP FA market. That's how and why they signed Donaldson. BUT, if they can bring in a couple solid arms via trade and FA...heaven and baseball gods forbid they bring in 2 FA that are quality without breaking the bank...they could still make a strike in that area. But do they need to? And I'm being serious here. With a better pen and a little better health the second half, the Twins basically played .500 ball with a patchwork rotation. What could they accomplish with a couple better rotation pieces to lead the rotation?
    Basic logic and finances and what little we actually know and speculate about what we know about the FA options available, Stoman and Ray and Gray make the most sense as FA signings if you're looking for someone to lead the staff. I believe Stoman made $12M last year and pretty sure that was his biggest $ year to date. He's been tied to the Twins for years now as a very similar pitcher to Berrios. (FWIW). He would seem to be the perfect target for a 4 or 5yr deal at $18-20M per deal that doesn't break the bank or preclude the Twins from making additional signings or moves. Maybe most import, he's been a model of health and consistency. You could even throw in an "out clause" after the 2yrs if you really needed to, allowing for the rise of milb talent. I think Ray and Gray offer the same potential as Stoman, without as much consistency, and might come in a little cheaper. Do the Twins have to sign Scherzer or Thor or Bauer to compete? Hell no! But these are a couple of arms listed who are still young enough, proven enough, talented enough to actually head the rotation without blowing up payroll.
    IF you make the right and smart move, you STILL have the "luxury" of a 2nd FA signing or a smart trade to bring in that Odorizzi or Maeda trade to fill the #2 spot. Such a trade could a steal as they've done before, hopefully, or it could include a couple quality milb prospects and one ML player like Kepler or Sano along with someone like Sands, just for example.
    Make no mistake, I'm open to a lot of potential scenarios here to bring in a couple quality SP options to lead our 2022 rotation. I'm inclined to keep the ML roster intact as much as possible as 2 steps forward and 2 steps back doesn't lead to success. But the Twins have enough talent and depth and $ available to make one or two smart moves to re-tool this roster without blowing up the roster or the system to make 2022 a competitive team.
    And whether they sign one of FA SP pitcher mentioned previously, as a primary or secondary, I have thoughts about guys like Rodon or Bundy. Would you bet big $ on Rodon?  One big year for Rodon? Or would you play it safe for Bundy who has flashed and might be primed for a good year with Johnson and the Twins after a career with Baltimore and the Angels?
    Sorry to be long winded, but there are a lot of different venues for this FO to follow the next couple of months to add and re-tool this rotation.
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    DocBauer got a reaction from TopGunn#22 in 4 Plausible Developments That Would Dramatically Alter the Twins' Fortunes   
    #1] Ryan is an athlete and competitor and bright. Don't underestimate those qualities. His FB is average velocity, 91-94, but plays up due to location and release. We were informed his secondary stuff needed work. OK. But I watched his games and his secondary stuff looked pretty good to me his first 4 starts. Not talking about the teams he pitched against, just watching his stuff. His last start was pretty scrappy, but come on, we're talking about a rookie pitching his final game after attending a family situation. 
    At the risk of sounding really old, I just love the moxie of the kid and believe his stuff plays and plays well. I am NOT going to annoit him as a future ACE. For one thing, I've learned that ACE status is rare and COMPLETELY unpredictable. But I honestly see his floor as a quality #3 and very probably a quality #2 in a season or two. Anything more than that is up to him and time and experience.
    (FWIW, I also see Ober as a potential #3 if he just stays healthy and keeps growing and can keep the HR numbers down)
    #2] Nick, you have more optimism regarding Jax than I do. He is, unfortunately, a victim of circumstance in his delayed development. But I DO SEE a decent FB and a very njce slider. And the kid is smart. Fully appreciate numbers posted previously as to his rookie performance. But there is that key word: ROOKIE. For someone who wasn't even expected to pitch at the ML level this year, how much do we stare at the final numbers? Shouldn't we, in this case, just look at the positives and the FB and slider and just wonder about gaining experience and wonder/project what he might do in the pen? Honestly asking. I think he might have a real role there in the future, but I'd think it would be mid 2022 and not before.
    #3] Never doubted AK before and won't now. This last wrist injury is not the same injury he had previously. So at this point, there is nothing chronic to worry about. He will probably end up at 1B because he's so good and natural there. And that's fine. But he's also solid in the OF.
    #4] Nick, IMO, you are way off on Lewis for 2022. Maybe I'm just a blind optomist, but I believe in this kid so much! I 100% believe he is going to hit, provide power and speed and be exciting. I fully believe he has all the tools necessary to be at least a "competent" SS. I say this as no expert, but I've seen enough from milb hilights and ST games to recognize the skilllset is there. Now, I'm not expecting greatness right away, or in the future, but be should be at least solid. And I expect growing pains both offensively and defensively early on. But I will be pleasantly shocked if he's ready for 2022 in any way other than a late season promotion. No matter his talent, attitude, intelligence or "gamer" ability, he just needs to PLAY.
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    DocBauer reacted to tarheeltwinsfan in Analyzing Outcomes for Recent Free Agent Relievers   
    I don't want to hear this, Doc.
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    DocBauer reacted to tony&rodney in No Half Measures   
    Donaldson and Sano have flaws and injury concerns, but their upsides are huge. There is room for both Sano and Donaldson in the lineup between 3B, 1B, and DH even if one has a desire to see Kirilloff at 1B and Miranda getting at bats. The rookies have the ability to fill in at a corner outfield spot and Miranda can also play 2B. The Twins expect anther good year from Josh Donaldson and a team would have to offer a legitimate player and pick up his contract for a trade to happen. That doesn't seem too likely. Finally, a part of signing a decent free agent is how a team treats those players after they sign. I believe part of the Twins everyday usage of Simmons after the trade deadline was out of respect for their shortstop. Donaldson stays.
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    DocBauer reacted to Squirrel in No Half Measures   
    This isn’t an either/or between Donaldson or Buxton, or anyone else for that matter, in regards to salary resources. Having Donaldson on the team does not preclude that we then can’t sign Buxton and a SS and top of the rotation pitcher, imo. Further, we would still likely have to pay a LOT of his salary in a trade or get less of a player return, neither which makes it worth trading him. And trading Donaldson now immediately worsens the team for next year, both defensively and offensively. I agree Miranda has nothing left to prove in AAA, and wish he’d been given some playing time in the majors this year, but we need to see Miranda adjust to the bigs, both offensively and defensively, before we jettison that strength we have by having Donaldson on the team. Get Miranda playing time with the Twins next year and see what we have. Just because he did well in AAA does not mean an immediately successful player in the majors. How many times have we seen that … someone good in the minors not be all that in the majors? A LOT. The best is to keep Donaldson for now, and rotate Miranda in next year and if he looks competent, THEN look to trade Donaldson. Donaldson holds a lot of value to the Twins next year, imo, and trading him now would be horribly short-sighted.
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    DocBauer got a reaction from chpettit19 in No Half Measures   
    Echo all previous comments that the proposed trade is disgusting and offers the Twins nothing more than a small pittance of financial relief and nothing more.
    Less we forget, Donaldson's injury this season was a hamstring issue and not the dreaded calf issue which has plagued him previously. He played in 135G, had over 500 PA and over 400 AB, albeit, some of those came as a DH. His numbers were very similar to his career production. And there is a very enlightening BLOG on TD where bean5302 really breaks down his season in minute detail that basically shows he might have been even better in 2021 with a little more BABIP luck and his skills haven't diminished. That means, decent health, a little more time spent at the open DH to assist and preserve, hes on target to again be a very productive hitter in 2022. 
    Except for a few bizarre miscues, especially early in the season when it seemed the Twins were under some kind of general/universal curse, his defense was again very good, though his range may have slipped somewhat.
    But let's stop there for a moment and look at the "dude" and not just the player. Donaldson is absolutely a "red ass" as a player. That is NOT an indictment of him as a person. It's a long held term for an intense player. And if you don't think the best Twins teams, including their 2 WS teams, didn't have a couple "red asses" on them you are either too young or weren't paying proper attention. He's a very different personality to the intense, but more laid back Cruz. But like Cruz, from the day Donaldson donned a Twjns jersey, players have flocked to him for advice on hitting and approach. And he has responded in kind. Despite a few on the field incidents that may have left a few of us shaking our heads, he has been totally professional and never been anything negative during this disappointing and frustrating season. 
    He brings offense, defense, experience and leadership as well as some "red ass" to 2022 that the Twins will need between 3B and DH. 
    His trade just won't bring back anything substantial enough unless it could, maybe, bring back a high quality back of the pen arm. Other than something of that nature, his value is remaining a Twin for 2022 and splitting his time between 3B and some time at DH.
    It's up to the Twins FO, and Rocco, and opportunity that always happens in regard to things like injury, to find room for Miranda and others to pave their way for 2022 and the future.
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    DocBauer reacted to MN_ExPat in One Fan's Opinion: Rooker is Ready   
    Thanks for the write up Sherry.
    Honestly, I'm not sure what direction the Twins and the FO will go in the spring.  However, I've always liked Rooker and will continue to pull for him.
    Funny story though... We were at a game in Jacksonville when Chattanooga (AA) came to town and my kids were at the Lookouts dugout getting autographs from the players, when my son spotted Rooker walking by.  So he calls out super loud "Hey Rook! Sign my ball!"  The look on Rooker's face was hilarious.  You could see the wheels going in his head and he seemed to be thinking "Did this kid just call me a Rookie or was he using a short form of my name?", but he just shrugged, smiled and grabbed the ball to sign it.   
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    DocBauer reacted to Bandguy in One Fan's Opinion: Rooker is Ready   
    It could be a roll of the dice to know if/when makes the big league roster. Kiriloff and Sano will likely be at 1b, and we have much better OF options defensively. He is going to have to hit his way onto any roster with OPS. I see him most likely on the 40 man to start 2022 at St Paul, if our core is healthy. 
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    DocBauer got a reaction from roger in Analyzing Outcomes for Recent Free Agent Relievers   
    I agree with the basic sentiment that signing a big $ BP arm seldom makes sense or turns out right. History shows this as being a crap shoot, but then again, FA in general can be that way I guess. That doesn't mean the Twins shouldn't sign SOMEONE they think has real value for $6-7M-ish to augment the back end of the pen. I don't know who that guy is right now I'm sorry to say. 
    We keep talking about making a trade for a quality SP with a couple years of control. But what about a trade for a BP arm from a team not expected to compete in 2022, OR, a team needing a little help somewhere who has a setup arm they would be willing to deal? That used to be a common way for teams to acquire a closer, get the setup guy from someone else who may be ready for the next step.
    Other than trading for Reardon, way back in the day, and nabbing Nathan from the Giants as, you guessed it, a setup man ready for an expanded role, the Twins excelled in developing their closer from converted starters within their system. Aguillera, Perkins, Trombley, Guardado are some examples. (Aguillera was acquired as a SP and then later converted). That is the best way to go to be sure. But we don't have THAT GUY at the moment. Alcala might be the next opportunity, but he's just taking that first step to being a reliable back end arm. Duran could be as well, but I'm sure as hell not going to give up on him as a SP at this point. Canterino is the same, but further away.
    They really, really need ONE ARM they believe in to join Rogers, Duffey, Thielbar and Alcala on that back end. And nobody wants to hear this, and I don't want to say it, but until someone shows me a real FA or trade target that makes sense....forgive me....I still have to wonder if Colome isn't a viable option. At some point, we have to forget April and May last year and look at his career and what he did from about June 1st on. I hope they can do better for the same $ or a bump, but I think he needs to be considered as a 1yr option. 
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