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    DocBauer reacted to ashbury in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    How I think my measured and thoughtful response on this topic will look:

    What it will really look like to others:

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    DocBauer reacted to yeahyabetcha in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Weird how things work out.  A few short months ago there were many opinions demanding Miranda to be playing in the majors and some suggesting Lewis was a wash out.  Now, many are ready to give up on Miranda and believe Lewis is a sure bet.
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    DocBauer reacted to TeJayDubz in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    The way I'm rationalizing this move is this:
    Baseball is a confidence sport, above almost everything else. If you don't think you can do it, you won't do it. It doesn't matter how skilled or successful you may be. He may be willing to play wherever we throw him on the diamond, but if he's not confident it won't play out how we want it to, on either side of the ball.
    With his age, and where we're at in the season it doesn't hurt to give him a couple reps at AAA at different spots, to build up that confidence. What makes this viable is other people in the lineup are heating up and playing well, including Correa. If the FO felt that we absolutely needed him to win games right now, he'd probably still be up. 
    I agree that this stint can not be long. Couple of weeks MAX. Get him confident around the diamond and call him back up when pitchers go from 14 to 13. Earlier if Miranda keeps trending towards La Tortuga 2.0.
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    DocBauer reacted to Doctor Gast in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Concur with you, playing 1B is a waste of Lewis talent but if that was the difference of them keeping Miranda and sending down Lewis that is asinine, If Arraez can learn 1B on the fly, so can Lewis and he'd excel. If you can play at SS, switching to 3B & 2B is easy, if you can play CF switching to LF or RF is easy (yet they think that a corner OF can play CF with NPs, really!), They have asked a few players, who weren't as athletic or didn't have the make up of Lewis, to make more of an transition on the fly,
    Lewis can learn much more being near Correa than what he can in AAA. He doesn't need to get his feet wet, they've been wet. He's the type of guy that if you throw him in the middle of the lake he'll swim (almost all rookies I would not say that). We need our best players on the 26 man, Lewis belong there. There is no excuse. 
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    DocBauer reacted to Monkeypaws in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    I like the move in the short term because Lewis continues to play SS, which is clearly his long-term place on the field after watching his debut.
    Gee whiz, the Twins somehow signed one of the best SS on the planet in the off-season for record money, gotta give him priority.
    There are underwhelming guys still on the roster, but none of them play SS. Gordon can give Correa the day off once in a while, and Buxton too. Gordon is the 21st-Century Denny Hocking
     
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    DocBauer reacted to Tim in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    I have a really tough time finding any reason that justifies sending him down. 
    look at what the Padres did with CJ Abrams, a SS by trade, to start the season. He was hitting so well in spring training they decided that getting his bat in the lineup, regardless of position, gave them the best opportunity to win. 
    He played SS, LF, RF, and 2nd.
    Tatis comes back, clearly short isn't an option. Oh same problem with the Twins .. Correa comes back, short isn't an option.
    This situation is no different. Abrams was coming off a major knee injury as well and if he was able to prove he could hit at the MLB level he'd still be up in San Diego because that helped the team.
    Royce Lewis on the other did prove he can hit MLB level pitching.
    I really do not understand this whole argument for getting him reps at SS just for defensive development. If that's the logic we want go by, then don't even bother bringing up the rest of the season.
    He clearly is athletic enough to play any of the 3 outfield positions. He has and can slide 15 feet over to 3rd, especially for a SS with his arm and the range + ability to make throws charging in (we saw it plenty in the 11 games he played) .. It's not like were throwing a fielder of Luis Arraez's caliber over there. (arod, hanley ramirez, machado, etc all did it midseason).
    Nick Gordon - 259 / 292 / 309
    Gio Urshela - 226 / 280 / 330
    Royce Lewis - 308 / 325 / 564 ... (top prospect, future cornerstone)
    Worried defensively?
    Arraez played 1st, 3rd, and LF in MLB with less than 10 games played in minors at any.
    Gordon played ZERO in the OF before being thrown out there.
    What in the world are we doing .. Your in 1st place, if he gives you the best opportunity to win, there's no reason to have him play in AAA getting reps shagging balls in left or taking grounders at 3rd. 
     
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    DocBauer reacted to chpettit19 in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Except they've openly stated that the plan isn't to have him play SS everyday, it's to move him around the field so he's comfortable playing other positions when he's needed again. 
    He played a more than serviceable SS in his short stint and was doing quite well at it in St Paul. Plus they watched him take an insane amount of grounders during the 2020 season and have been watching him in Florida for months as he's rehabbed. If they aren't sure if he can play SS or not by now they have their answer and it's that he can't play SS.
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    DocBauer reacted to PatPfund in There's Only One Way the Royce Lewis Demotion Will Make Sense   
    Couldn’t disagree more. Royce had a great taste, but with Correa likely gone after this year, the team MUST know if he is the solution at short or not. That means beating all the rust off him at SS by having him play there every day for another month or so. (Pretty sure he had two errors in his short run.) There are other options at the other spots in the short run, and polishing Royce is far more important for later this year and beyond.
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    DocBauer reacted to tony&rodney in Paddack had Tommy John surgery. Out for 2022.   
    Hope Paddack has success and fully recovers to have a decent MLB career. Players really put their entire selves into getting that shot for an MLB run; it is tough. Players have come back after multiple TJ's and good luck to Chris Paddack.
    The trade with San Diego was quite a gamble for the Twins. They are essentially paying $11 million for Pagan. There was prior knowledge of Paddack's injury and hopefully he can pitch again in a Twins uniform. Gambling can be fun ... sometimes.
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    DocBauer reacted to wsnydes in Paddack had Tommy John surgery. Out for 2022.   
    Well that sucks.  
    Not unexpected, but it still sucks.  Best of luck and a speedy recovery to him!
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    DocBauer reacted to ashbury in Paddack had Tommy John surgery. Out for 2022.   
    He missed time due to elbow soreness before the trade.  And now?
    I tell ya, this franchise must be jinxed or something.
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    DocBauer reacted to Mike Sixel in Paddack had Tommy John surgery. Out for 2022.   
    Good luck to him. 
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    DocBauer reacted to Vanimal46 in Paddack had Tommy John surgery. Out for 2022.   
    Best of luck to him for a speedy recovery. 
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    DocBauer got a reaction from heresthething in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    As I've stated before, I'm torn on the entire subject.
    I am disappointed Lewis was sent down, and I'm willing to bet this was discussed with Royce ahead of time so everyone was on the same page. And I'm sure this was discussed and understood before last night's game. If you look at this with a purely logical eye, it does make sense. He is their most prized prospect. He hasn't played in a real game for 2yrs due to covid and then injury. A hot start of 1 1/2 months guarantees nothing, even though he looks very good. They want him to be the best player he can be, both offensively and defensively. The simple fact that they are not planning on playing him exclusively at SS, but rather, moving him around to take advantage of his skills in order to keep him in the lineup, is very forward thinking, and actually pretty aggressive. They believe it's in everyone's best interest to get a couple/few weeks of doing this in a less pressure packed situation at AAA rather than at the ML level. MIranda stays up for now to help play 1B and then goes down when Larnach comes back. By then, they hopefully have figured out another option to back up there. Additionally, it may be the same time frame 
    All perfectly reasonable and logical and practical. And I can't argue with this vehemently, even if I hate seeing him go down, even temporarily.
    HOWEVER....not only is he performing well, so far at least, with the bat, but I don't see how you can transition Arraez to 1B and LF both on the fly, and Gordon to CF/OF on the fly, and then tell me Lewis can't do the same thing. So while I think they have the right approach to take advantage of all his talent and work him all around the field to maximize opportunity and his potential, I just don't understand why he needed to go down at this time vs the struggling Miranda. A good long view...but short-sighted in implimentation. 
     
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    DocBauer reacted to LA VIkes Fan in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Well said. I just don't see any particular reason why Lewis can't get the "experience" he needs at the other positions at the MLB level. He isn't displacing any particularly good player. At 3B, Urshela is an outstanding glove who simply cannot hit very well. He is the utility player the Yankees thought he was. In LF, both Gordon and Garlick have severe limitations at the plate and neither is a particularly good outfielder. We also don't have a full-time DH so we have places to get at-bats for players either Lewis displaces or for Lewis himself.
    Bottom line, play the guys who have earned playing time. Lewis has earned playing time on the Twins. Urshela, Gordon and Garlick have not. I'm not including Miranda because my assumption is that the moment Larnach is ready to play Miranda will be in AAA and until then he will rarely, if ever, see the field other than maybe at 1B against LH pitching, Urshela and Gordon are utility players, Garlick is a AAAA player, and Miranda is a AAA player (at the present time). Lewis at least looks like a MLB starting caliber player in his small sample size. He should be getting a larger sample size until he proves himself to be something else. This is just dumb and not well thought out. 
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    DocBauer reacted to Steven Buhr in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    This is an example of the FO using the convenient explanation and hoping nobody notices it's inconsistent with what they've done over and over again with other players. Lewis did not "need" to go down, and sending him down now could cost wins. It certainly doesn't INCREASE their chances of winning games he misses while he's in St Paul.
    I won't say "The FO doesn't want to win this year." However, I will say the FO doesn't appear to be all that concerned about winning every game possible. Maybe that's fine. Maybe they feel they're going to win this weak division with several games to spare, or at least they feel there's a reasonable enough chance of that being the case that they're willing to roll the dice on it. 
    As for the service time issue that's been brought up, I simply don't know where all that landed with the new deal MLB made with the Union, so I have no idea if that's even a consideration at this point. I would hope not. 
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    DocBauer reacted to JW24 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Read a handful of comments and then skipped to the end, so apologies if this has already been beaten into the ground.
    Royce is going to struggle at the MLB level at some point. Happens to everyone. Having him go through a major slump at the plate while being asked to learn a handful of different positions defensively is poor player development. From a confidence standpoint, sending him down to AAA after he has been successful at the MLB level is preferable to sending him down after the slump occurs.
    Not an exact parallel here, but the Twins promoting Aaron Hicks to be their leadoff hitter and starting CF with no experience above AA significantly hindered his development. He was capable defensively while trying to figure out MLB pitching. Royce has shown he is able to hit MLB pitching, but with asking him to learn 2 or 3 new defensive positions on the fly, does he maintain the bat? Impossible to say since he is being sent down. Like everyone else, I am hoping it is a very brief stint in St. Paul before he returns to the big league club.
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    DocBauer reacted to Mike Sixel in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    They did those transitions out of desperation. Now? Now they have options because the team is better and healthier. 
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    DocBauer reacted to LA VIkes Fan in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    I can see where you and I differ - it's Lewis v. Urshela at 3B and Lewis v. Gordon/Garlick in LF. I agree that Lewis is not an upgrade from Correa by any stretch of the imagination, he's a downgrade. I think he's a slight upgrade from Arraez because he can hit same sided pitching and Arraez can't, and Lewis can actually competently play in the field, but I wouldn't waste Lewis at 1B. 
    The big disconnect for me is why isn't Lewis playing 3B instead of Urshela and/or LF instead of Gordon or Garlick? He should be able to play close to as well or better in the field and he so far has shown himself to be the far superior hitter and athlete. No scholarships. Either Urshela, Gordon and Garlick produce or they sit or get cut when someone else produces.  Lewis is producing, all three of them are not. They sit or, in Garlick's case, get DFA'd and sent to St. Paul since it isn't likely anyone else will want a 30 year old OF who is a liability in the field and can't hit RH pitching. Why would we need to protect Gordon's playing time in the OF or keep Garlick around for those 20 – 30% of overall at bats that are against Left-handed pitching instead of keeping up a player who has shown the ability to hit, field, and run? Winning organizations find a place for that guy; they don't send him to AAA because it might be difficult to find him at bats. They find the bats at the expense of players who are not performing as well. That's what we should be doing.

    Now this entire rant may go out the window if they send Lewis to AAA for a couple of weeks, have him play a couple days a week in the outfield and a couple days a week at both second and third base, and then bring him up and wind up playing him five days a week in some combination of shortstop, third base, second base, and left field. This is what winning teams would do to get an exciting player who improves the team on the field. Actually, winning teams would do this at the MLB level but obviously that's not going to happen. As I said earlier post on the subject, what this tells me is that the Twins are not committed to winning this year but are looking at this year as a developmental year for next year. If that's really the situation, and it sure is beginning to look that way, time for me to go back and follow the Dodgers and Angels this year and I'll check back in with you guys next season.
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    DocBauer got a reaction from Steven Buhr in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    As I've stated before, I'm torn on the entire subject.
    I am disappointed Lewis was sent down, and I'm willing to bet this was discussed with Royce ahead of time so everyone was on the same page. And I'm sure this was discussed and understood before last night's game. If you look at this with a purely logical eye, it does make sense. He is their most prized prospect. He hasn't played in a real game for 2yrs due to covid and then injury. A hot start of 1 1/2 months guarantees nothing, even though he looks very good. They want him to be the best player he can be, both offensively and defensively. The simple fact that they are not planning on playing him exclusively at SS, but rather, moving him around to take advantage of his skills in order to keep him in the lineup, is very forward thinking, and actually pretty aggressive. They believe it's in everyone's best interest to get a couple/few weeks of doing this in a less pressure packed situation at AAA rather than at the ML level. MIranda stays up for now to help play 1B and then goes down when Larnach comes back. By then, they hopefully have figured out another option to back up there. Additionally, it may be the same time frame 
    All perfectly reasonable and logical and practical. And I can't argue with this vehemently, even if I hate seeing him go down, even temporarily.
    HOWEVER....not only is he performing well, so far at least, with the bat, but I don't see how you can transition Arraez to 1B and LF both on the fly, and Gordon to CF/OF on the fly, and then tell me Lewis can't do the same thing. So while I think they have the right approach to take advantage of all his talent and work him all around the field to maximize opportunity and his potential, I just don't understand why he needed to go down at this time vs the struggling Miranda. A good long view...but short-sighted in implimentation. 
     
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    DocBauer reacted to Riverbrian in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    LOL... Greatest. American. Ever. Is what Alfred E. is. 
    Just expressing my thoughts.
    Not worried. 
    This isn't a Nick Anderson level mistake yet. It's fixable. 
    I just don't like the mechanism that led to this move. The mechanism is similar to how a Nick Anderson type mistake is made. 
    Go with the guys getting the job done. 
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    DocBauer reacted to Nashvilletwin in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Question for my fellow TDers: if the FO is confident that Correa will be here throughout 2022 and believes there is a reasonable probability that he will be with the Twins in ‘23 and possibly ‘24, where is Lewis’s best position?
    Choices:
    3B - currently held by Urshela with Miranda slotted as the long term solution. 
    1B - really wide open given Sano is likely done, Arraez is a misfit, and the true heir apparent, Kiriloff, has seemingly big issues. But would Lewis’s raw talents be wasted there?
    Corner OF - currently occupied by Kepler, Larnach, and Celestino - all of whom have been producing more or less.
    My take is that if your best prospect’s position is taken by essentially your best overall player, then you find the second best position that will maximise long term success for that prospect. Period. If someone else needs to change positions (Miranda, Larnach) or ultimately be traded (Urshela, Kepler), then you do what must be done to make Lewis successful. Lewis’s development and long term home are the priorities over all those other players.
    Don’t fret. Lewis will be back relatively soon and he, Buxton, Polanco, and, if we are lucky, Correa will be the core of this ball club for the next several years.  That will be one awesome core.
     
     
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    DocBauer reacted to chpettit19 in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    So send him down before he has the chance to be bad? He's not currently bad so that doesn't make much sense. Nobody is saying he's guaranteed to be great for the rest of his career, but currently he's one of the 3 or 4 best players on the team while they have another top prospect who is currently bad that they left on the team. Why wouldn't playing time in the bigs be guaranteed now? He's one of your best players. Buxton is sitting or DHing multiple games a series. Gordon isn't lighting up scoreboards. Urshella isn't either. Arraez doesn't hit against lefties. They've been DHing their catchers. There are plenty of ABs available on a team that isn't scoring many runs at all for one of the few guys that are hitting at the moment.
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    DocBauer reacted to Major League Ready in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    Congratulations on actually thinking through the options before coming to an opinion.  You even realized there were other inevitable moves.  Miranda’s reassignment is coming soon unless he gets it together very quickly.  Who should we send down when all of the necessary moves are complete?  Arraez is not going anywhere?  Should we release Urshela? That’s not happening.  How about Celestino?  If anyone has earned the right to stay it’s Celestino.  Sending Gordon down at this point would be a real slap in the face and he is the most versatile bench player we have.  Are we going to keep Larnach down?  This move is not even a little surprising when you consider the alternatives and the fact that Lewis will be our SS soon enough and continuing to play SS is best for him and the team.  
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    DocBauer reacted to nicksaviking in Despite Great First Impression, Royce Lewis Optioned to St. Paul After Tuesday's Game   
    So Arraez, Gordon and Sano can learn new positions while at the MLB level, but the exponentially more athletic and talented Lewis can't. 
    Also, they signed Correa months ago, why wasn't Lewis given AAA reps at other positions prior to his original call up?
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