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    Beast got a reaction from rwilfong86 in This prospect's loud contact is turning heads - only he is no longer ours.   
    He’ll turn into a star, because Minnesota Twins.
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    Beast got a reaction from Minny505 in Here's Why the Cleveland Guardians Will Take a Step Back in 2023   
    Cleveland is probably saying, “don’t overhype the Twins, who haven’t won a playoff game in two decades, folded like a cheap tent last year, have the most injury prone roster in the MLB by a mile, and who’s only dominant pitcher throws 4 innings a week.”
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    Beast got a reaction from glunn in Here's Why the Cleveland Guardians Will Take a Step Back in 2023   
    Cleveland is probably saying, “don’t overhype the Twins, who haven’t won a playoff game in two decades, folded like a cheap tent last year, have the most injury prone roster in the MLB by a mile, and who’s only dominant pitcher throws 4 innings a week.”
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    Beast got a reaction from mikelink45 in Here's Why the Cleveland Guardians Will Take a Step Back in 2023   
    Cleveland is probably saying, “don’t overhype the Twins, who haven’t won a playoff game in two decades, folded like a cheap tent last year, have the most injury prone roster in the MLB by a mile, and who’s only dominant pitcher throws 4 innings a week.”
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    Beast got a reaction from Karbo in Reflections on the 2023 Twins Season from a Time Traveler   
    That would be fun to watch for a while, but nobody will care if they got swept out of the playoffs again. 
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    Beast got a reaction from Bamboo Bat in Here's Why the Cleveland Guardians Will Take a Step Back in 2023   
    Cleveland is probably saying, “don’t overhype the Twins, who haven’t won a playoff game in two decades, folded like a cheap tent last year, have the most injury prone roster in the MLB by a mile, and who’s only dominant pitcher throws 4 innings a week.”
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    Beast got a reaction from bird in Here's Why the Cleveland Guardians Will Take a Step Back in 2023   
    Cleveland is probably saying, “don’t overhype the Twins, who haven’t won a playoff game in two decades, folded like a cheap tent last year, have the most injury prone roster in the MLB by a mile, and who’s only dominant pitcher throws 4 innings a week.”
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    Beast got a reaction from beckmt in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from Kummel in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from Dave Overlund in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from TiberTwins in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from h2oface in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from glunn in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from Hosken Bombo Disco in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from Danchat in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from Vanimal46 in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from TopGunn#22 in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
  18. Like
    Beast got a reaction from Dave The Dastardly in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from wabene in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from UpstateNewYorker in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from Brazilian Twins Fan in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from ashbury in Current Twins' Injuries   
    It seems there’s a fairly ridiculous semantics battle going on here in which both side are right and wrong, simultaneously.
    I think it’s more accurate to say they’re relying on health….of some players who haven’t proven they can be healthy.  They’re banking on Buxton, Kirilloff, Polanco, and some combo of Mahle, Maeda, Gray, Ober to stay healthy in order to have a successful year.  I agree that’s not an ideal situation to put yourself in.  But, every team deals with injuries at some point.  It’s also largely not those guys creating the issue right now.  Gordon, Miranda, Winder, and Henriquez injuries aren’t going to derail the team.  I don’t think it’s that surprising or unexpected to see Buxton, Polanco, and Kirilloff limited in exhibits right now.  
    On the flip side, saying “what are they supposed to do about it,” isn’t a valid defense.  They can help it.  They put themselves in the situation.  If you get thrown in jail for drunk driving, and someone criticizes you for being in jail, responding “what am I supposed to do about it, they won’t let me out,” doesn’t absolve you of making the decisions that put you there.  Frankly, identifying players that can stay in the field is part of the job.  There’s an element of luck there (Royce Lewis).  But, when you actively target and trade for a damaged player, you deserve criticism.
    Also, “they’ve brought in a ton of depth,” doesn’t hold much water.  Sorry, but if that depth isn’t that good.  If the lineup consists of some utility castoffs from the Reds, Michael Taylor, etc., for significant stretches, the team will stink just like it did last year.  People lost their minds over the Gallo signing.  They did trade for Lopez, but they also gave up a Silver Slugger and batting champion.
    I see a lot of issues on both sides of the table here.  My take:  they do deserve to be criticized if this season once again is derailed by injuries to the usual suspects (Buxton, Polanco, Mahle, Ober, Maeda, etc).  I’d even throw Correa in there, they aren’t exempt from criticism if they made a poor evaluation.  If those guys start going down, the replacement level depth (Farmer, Taylor, et all), isn’t saving the day.  But, we’re nowhere near that point yet.  The key guys look on track to start the season.
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    Beast got a reaction from ashbury in Gordon injured   
    Gordon has been playing the infield for 99% of his baseball life, and the vast majority of his baseball career.
    He hasn’t really proven himself to be a capable outfielder.  That was an experiment because we literally had nobody else. It started terribly and he eventually got himself to roughly league average over a relatively small sample size.  During that time we saw him dive at and miss a ball, potentially costing them a game, and various other gaffes.  
    We also have 4 other gold glove caliber outfielders.
    He is not a starting outfielder for this team.
    Everyone wants to get Gordon into the lineup often.  I agree he has earned the right to see if he can sustain what he did last year.  This is how it would happen.  Then everyone complains about it and blames management because he made an out of control play at 2B.  What an odd take.
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    Beast got a reaction from wabene in Gordon injured   
    Gordon has been playing the infield for 99% of his baseball life, and the vast majority of his baseball career.
    He hasn’t really proven himself to be a capable outfielder.  That was an experiment because we literally had nobody else. It started terribly and he eventually got himself to roughly league average over a relatively small sample size.  During that time we saw him dive at and miss a ball, potentially costing them a game, and various other gaffes.  
    We also have 4 other gold glove caliber outfielders.
    He is not a starting outfielder for this team.
    Everyone wants to get Gordon into the lineup often.  I agree he has earned the right to see if he can sustain what he did last year.  This is how it would happen.  Then everyone complains about it and blames management because he made an out of control play at 2B.  What an odd take.
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    Beast got a reaction from kenbuddha in Report from the Fort: Get Ready for Lots of Nick Gordon   
    Gallo has multiple gold gloves.  Someone posted a figure here not long ago showing he is one of the MLB leaders in DRS over the last handful of years.  He’s literally one of the best defensive outfielders in the game.
    Gordon has shown to be terrible in the OF at times.  At his best, average.
    Gordon is probably the 6th best CF on the team (Buxton, Taylor, Gallo, Lewis when healthy, Kepler).
    Help me understand the reasoning behind preferring Gordon in CF over Gallo.
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