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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Wax off in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    Say what? Giving prospects playing time is exactly the argument in favor of moving Polanco back to SS. It creates much more playing time for the likes of Miranda, Gordon, and Martin. What prospects are not getting playing time as a result of Polanco moving back to short temporarily?
    More like, defense isn't everything.  The last three years seem to bear that out? The Twins won two divisions and played .600 ball with Polanco at SS in 2019/20. They finished in last place in 2021 with Polanco at 2B, and an all-time great defensive SS signed to replace him. 
    No one's saying these are cause-and-effect situations. But you can't make the argument that a good defensive SS is essential to winning. The contradictory evidence is right in front of you. 
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from TheLeviathan in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    Say what? Giving prospects playing time is exactly the argument in favor of moving Polanco back to SS. It creates much more playing time for the likes of Miranda, Gordon, and Martin. What prospects are not getting playing time as a result of Polanco moving back to short temporarily?
    More like, defense isn't everything.  The last three years seem to bear that out? The Twins won two divisions and played .600 ball with Polanco at SS in 2019/20. They finished in last place in 2021 with Polanco at 2B, and an all-time great defensive SS signed to replace him. 
    No one's saying these are cause-and-effect situations. But you can't make the argument that a good defensive SS is essential to winning. The contradictory evidence is right in front of you. 
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    Nick Nelson reacted to jorgenswest in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    One thing I am less certain about is defense. I wonder how shifting, lifting and strike outs have changed the value of defense up the middle. I wonder if the measuring tools introduced earlier this century like UZR have kept up with those changes.
    Is it that surprising that Polanco had a peak year last year at age 27? Lots of guys have one of their best seasons at 27. His success at the plate likely has nothing to do with his position move.
    Is the burden on the ankles significantly different at SS than 2B? Is it more likely that it took a long time to recover to full health and that spanned the 2020 season?
    I hope the Twins need at SS is a short term one with both Lewis and Martin close. I don’t want a short term glove first SS filling that hole in 2022. I want to see Arraez, Miranda, Polanco and Donaldson getting significant at at bats. I want to see Lewis or Martin if the show they are dominating AAA. Playing a Polanco at SS can make that happen.
    I advocated for this move in November. It still seems like the right move now.
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    Nick Nelson reacted to tony&rodney in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    We seem to be arguing against our agreements. In November, I do not recall any lists with Polanco at shortstop. The Twins just sat on their hands and are apparently waiting for a resolution of the CBA. Most of the free agents have signed already and we don't know if the budget for 2022 is less than or greater than $110 million. I wouldn't take either bet, low or high. Thus it comes down to what can be done with our squad. In that event, Polanco could (i believe it unlikely) return to shortstop. I still wonder how Polanco sees all this.
    There is still hope though. Trade for Walls, Mondesi, or DEJong or sign Story. Then sign Rodon and Greinke and maybe Conforto - suddenly we are good to go. Right? 
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from jorgenswest in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Wax off in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    Notably, they also were among the best teams in the league at preventing runs in 2019 and 2020, and among the worst in 2021. 
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    Nick Nelson reacted to TheLeviathan in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    I'll add to what the Nicks said:  if we're not willing to sign a Trevor Story or some other big time bat who can field, I'd be totally fine with a Polanco/Arraez middle infield.  What they can do offensively is a major boon and we saw that in our lineup not that long ago.
    Meanwhile, a no-glove husk like Andrelton Simmons was a black hole in our lineup day in and day out.  I don't care if he was the Jesus of Shortstops....it ain't worth that black hole.  This isn't your Terry Ryan "Everyone throw a SINKER!" pitching staff any more.  The emphasis on infield defense can take a step back in priority.  
    Ideally, sign a guy that can do both and keep Jorge at 2B.  If you can't or won't do that, I won't complain about a MIF that can hit instead of the crap-fest we rolled out at SS last year in the name of defense.
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    Nick Nelson reacted to Riverbrian in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    I can't (or shouldn't) speak for Nick. However, I believe that you are making the same point he was trying to make. 
    You clearly illustrate that assembling a winning baseball team isn't dependent upon having a bWar superstar at SS.
    I believe Nick was making that same point by stating that the Twins actually won baseball games with Polanco at SS. So... while recognizing that 2B is a better fit for Polanco it certainly doesn't mean that the wheels will completely come off with him at SS either. 
    Speaking for myself now, I think the team was better at the SS and 2B positions overall with Polanco and Arraez than they were with Simmons and Polanco. 
    I'm also not endorsing this and calling it progress either. If the Twins want to trade for Mondesi or sign Story, I'd be all for it. However, if Polanco ends up back at SS out of necessity, I think the sun will still rise tomorrow. 😀  
     
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from wsnydes in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Unwinder in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    I don't see the situations as very comparable. The Twins were forced to move Mauer off catcher. They really had no choice in light of his health and the extreme concussion risks behind the plate. If moving him back there were at all a feasible option it would've merited plenty of discussion.
    Moving Polanco off SS was much more optional and experimental. It was a shakeup move. I'm dubious of the relatively increased risk to his ankle from moving to another position 20 feet away. Again: he started more than 2 dozen games at SS last year! It's not like they are fiercely opposed to using him there at all.
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Unwinder in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from TheLeviathan in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from nicksaviking in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from ToddlerHarmon in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Riverbrian in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Wax off in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    I don't see the situations as very comparable. The Twins were forced to move Mauer off catcher. They really had no choice in light of his health and the extreme concussion risks behind the plate. If moving him back there were at all a feasible option it would've merited plenty of discussion.
    Moving Polanco off SS was much more optional and experimental. It was a shakeup move. I'm dubious of the relatively increased risk to his ankle from moving to another position 20 feet away. Again: he started more than 2 dozen games at SS last year! It's not like they are fiercely opposed to using him there at all.
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Wax off in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Dman in There's a Very Simple Solution to Minnesota's Shortstop Problem   
    The Twins won 103 games with Jorge Polanco as their starting shortstop. He was an All-Star and 4-WAR player there that year. How many games did Andrelton Simmons win with his historically great UZR last year? He was a sub-replacement level player. 
    We all understand Polanco's defensive deficiencies at short. But they need to be weighed against the benefits of this arrangement. 
    (BTW, Polanco's UZR/150 was really no better at 2B than at SS, if that's the gauge you're using. Bringing up Sano as an equivalent suggests you're not really making a serious argument here.)
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from wabene in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    Correct. Which is why Kepler dropped from #3 last year to #9 this year and is ranked behind Polanco, Buxton, and Garver...
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from wabene in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    Correction: he's had 5 solid major-league seasons and 1 great major-league season. I actually think reality here is the opposite: Twins fans have a lower opinion of Kepler than the rest of the league, and they generally underrate his trade value. That contract, for a 28-year-old whose floor is basically "quality regular," is quite appealing. 
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from Minny505 in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    Correction: he's had 5 solid major-league seasons and 1 great major-league season. I actually think reality here is the opposite: Twins fans have a lower opinion of Kepler than the rest of the league, and they generally underrate his trade value. That contract, for a 28-year-old whose floor is basically "quality regular," is quite appealing. 
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    Nick Nelson got a reaction from tony&rodney in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    Correction: he's had 5 solid major-league seasons and 1 great major-league season. I actually think reality here is the opposite: Twins fans have a lower opinion of Kepler than the rest of the league, and they generally underrate his trade value. That contract, for a 28-year-old whose floor is basically "quality regular," is quite appealing. 
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    Nick Nelson reacted to RonCoomersOPS in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    You're wrong on Lewis.
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    Nick Nelson reacted to Doctor Gast in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    Great article Nick. Hope a lot from Kepler and Sano' but at this point they're a big ?. How well we do this season will depend how they perform along with how well FO fills our holes. Agree with your assessments of how to approach our necessity of who to trade. 
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    Nick Nelson reacted to b_loy in Taking Stock of the Twins: Top 20 Assets of 2022 Recap   
    "Kepler and Celestino are both made somewhat more expandable by the..."
    More expandable? Does that mean they could become taller or wider if needed?
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