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    roger reacted to TNtwins85 in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    Before the pandemic hit last year I had the chance to drive down the road to Hawkins field and watch the commodores. This guy looked like a man among boys which judging by his stats to start the season he truly was! This guy is gonna be an OBP machine. On a team of elite players in the country he was by far the best player. No questions. He’s gonna be fine and I can’t wait for him to get the call because he’s a gamer for sure! He’s calm in the box. You can tell he’s got a plan. He was watching the pitcher intently in the on deck circle. He worked the count and when he got his pitch which he knew was coming he attacked the pitchAnd barreled it! He looked like a right handed Mauer in the box. In his prime that is. That kind of hitter! In college!
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    roger reacted to SanoMustGo in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    How many mlb teams would pay Berrios $30 million per?  I know it only takes one, but it surely is less than 5(maybe only the Dodgers).  There are so many horrible contracts in baseball.  Look at the top 30 paid pitchers in baseball.  How many of those contracts are are just God awful, ridiculous?  I counted at least half, if not a bit more.
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    roger reacted to Major League Ready in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    I have heard a half-dozen interviews with various baseball execs and reporters as well as Rocco this morning who say Buxton definitely wants to be a Twins.  He has said as much himself.  You just might be right but it's pure assumption and we all know what happens when we assume.  
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    roger reacted to jmlease1 in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    Look, if Toronto is able to extend Berrios in the offseason at market rate (or less), then we'll know that either the FO botched this or was never serious about keeping Berrios. But I suspect that Toronto will be no more likely to extend Berrios than the Twins, absent a substantial overpay. Now...what constitutes an "overpay" for Berrios? YMMV. I think the market rate on him as a free agent is AAV of $25-28M with a term length of at least 5 years. (Wheeler is the floor; while Wheeler had been better than Berrios at the time of his FA, Berrios is younger and healthier, and the best ability is availability. but he's not going to get Cole money unless he wins the Cy next year) How many people want to give Jose Berrios 5 years and $150M? That might have gotten it done, but tell me it doesn't make your palms sweat.
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    roger reacted to bean5302 in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    Berrios was not interested in signing with the Twins likely at or below market value. That was clear. Would you be okay with 8 years and $280MM for Berrios? An absolute massive and guaranteed overpay so he had no choice but to sign the worst contract in Minnesota Twins history? A contract which would utterly cripple the franchise for the next decade?
    If so, I'm not sure you're much of a Twins fan. If not, then the Twins had 2 options:
    1. Let Berrios walk at the end of 2022 with (maybe) a comp round pick for 2023 or
    2. Trade him.
    The Twins chose number 2 and now have 2 top 50 level prospects in the high minors with super high ceilings and expected low floors.
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    roger reacted to Tim in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    You are aware that every single player, prior to playing a major league game, is considered a prospect, right? These are 2 very good, young players. Believe it or not, Berrios was once a prospect!
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    roger reacted to DocBauer in Twins Minor League Relief Pitcher of the Month - July 2021   
    I pride myself on my milb system knowledge, so I feel better that I shouldn't know much about Manoah. 
    I can't wait to see Moran in a Twins uniform soon. He's an arm we've read about, known about for some time, and have been waiting on. Some teams have a hard time finding a single quality LHRP for their pen. There is a real chance the Twins will be offer up THREE in their pen with Rogers, Thielbar, Thorpe, Smeltzer?, Vasquez?, and Moran as alternates.
    Jordan Gore interests me. He's 27yo and not big. But he seems to have velocity and has made a pretty easy transition from position player to RP. I don't think he's a top pen prospect by any means, but RP are "made" and not usually drafted and developed. There are a lot of arms in the system for him to pass to get a shot. But I just wonder if he might surprise. He's an interesting story at least.
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    roger reacted to ashbury in 40 Man Roster Management For 2022   
    Rortvedt is on the 40-man roster and thus not eligible for the rule-5 draft.
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    roger reacted to lecroy24fan in 40 Man Roster Management For 2022   
    There is zero chance they take Rooker off the 40 man. Zilch. Zero. None.
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    roger reacted to wabene in Twins Minor League Report (8/3) Austin Martin Makes Debut   
    Rooker looked good last year in a short stint then got hit. Started slow this year but is picking it up. More time is needed to see what he can do, like the rest of this season. I could see an average DH next season with room to grow. Larnach's confidence is probably low right now but he needs to battle through it. I would not send either down under any circumstance except if Larnach needs a confidence boost. I would, however, bring up Miranda for any Donaldson absences.
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    roger got a reaction from Melissa in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger got a reaction from mikelink45 in Twins Minor League Relief Pitcher of the Month - July 2021   
    Interesting group and we all know how much help the Twins bullpen needs.
    Wondering how Gore has a 1.00 WHIP with 8 hits and 8 walks in 13.0 innings?
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    roger got a reaction from dbminn in Twins Minor League Relief Pitcher of the Month - July 2021   
    Interesting group and we all know how much help the Twins bullpen needs.
    Wondering how Gore has a 1.00 WHIP with 8 hits and 8 walks in 13.0 innings?
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    roger got a reaction from wabene in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger got a reaction from Twins33 in Fact or Fiction: The Twins Way Didn't Work for Matt Shoemaker   
    None of us have enough first hand knowledge to know the real story.  But thanks for all the information, Matt.
    What concerns me is whether or not the Twins are trying to get all pitchers to focus on some of the same things, ie,, throw X pitch high in the zone, throw more sliders, etc.  Every pitcher is different, would expect the best staff would be one that gets the most out of each pitcher based on his individual strengths.
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    roger got a reaction from kenbuddha in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger got a reaction from Major League Ready in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger reacted to Clear Lake Twinsfan in Twins Minor League Week in Review: Complex Struggles but Success Everywhere Else   
    Glad to hear that Lewis Thorpe's rehab start went well.  I hope that he makes it back to St. Paul soon, and then back to the Twins for a good look this season.  In this "reset" of a season, he is one of the guys that I think the Twins need to determine if they believe that he can be a contributor next year.  
    Also glad to hear that Royce Lewis' rehab is progressing.  Seth, I was wondering if you had any updates on the injury status of the other top prospects.  Specifically, do you think that either of Jhoan Duran or Matt Canterino will be back on the mound this season?  Might either or both of them be candidates for the Arizona Fall League to make up for the missed time?  I"m also curious about Alerick Soularie, last year's second round draft pick.  He has been on the IL all season, and I've seen "foot injury" as the description.  Any word on whether or not we'll see him on the field over the next couple of months?
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    roger got a reaction from Dman in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger got a reaction from 70charger in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger got a reaction from MN_ExPat in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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    roger reacted to tony&rodney in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    The Blue Jays got exactly what they wanted in Jose Berrios and thus the Twins were able to receive two highly rated prospects in return. Austin Martin may develop, quickly, into a real fine MLB player and we hope he does as soon as next season. However, Martin was not going to play ahead of Bichette or Springer and thus his value was higher for others than to Toronto.  I don't think Toronto was down on Martin as a prospect.
    The Twins could use Austin Martin in LF if Buxton returns to full health. Byron has had a real tough time with injuries but most of them are unrelated and he could, absolutely, bounce back to be a 140+ games per year star. Power in CF allows for a line drive hitter in LF, and Martin could be that player. The Twins still need two pitchers though.
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    roger reacted to jmlease1 in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    They're buying low if you agree with FanGraphs downgrade on Martin, I guess? 
    the Twins FO doesn't seem too concerned about his power production this year (he may have adjusted his swing to compensate for a hand injury) and they're right that it's a lot easier to add power to a guy with high bat skills and great control of the strike zone than it is to add average and contact to a player with big power. Small tweaks in elevating his swing, pulling the ball more, using his legs better, adding muscle, etc are all thing that could add additional pop to his bat.
    I heard on Gleeman & the Geek the comp of "Shannon Stewart with more walks" right now. That would be a pretty nice player, as Shannon Stewart was a borderline all-star a couple of times and a quality starter for the better part of a decade. add in more walks and you have a player who is a multiple all-star and a building block for your team.
    I really didn't expect the twins to get a player of this quality and a high-upside pitcher for Berrios, which was part of my resistance to trading him (the other part is I would have preferred to sign him long-term...but I'm increasingly of the belief that absent a substantial overpay the Twins had no shot of extending him. I think the same is true for Toronto: I believe Berrios is serious about wanting to be a free agent and see what happens.)
    Martin is really good as a player. They'll find a position for him defensively; this isn't a case of needing to stash him somewhere where he won't do any damage. 
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    roger reacted to Dman in Twins Minor League Week in Review: Complex Struggles but Success Everywhere Else   
    If this exercise came down to strictly the best bat Miranda would be my choice hands down and his OPS supports that.  However, Miranda is limited defensively to likely 3rd and 2nd maybe left field.  

    I don't know a ton about Martin other than he is a highly ranked prospect with a good eye at the plate and good hit tool. He hasn't hit for power yet and isn't likely to hit for power anytime soon.  From what I read his arm isn't that great at short leaving him at 2nd is his best position and he is fast enough to play center but with a weaker arm not an ideal fit. 
     Lewis has far an away the best defensive upside as he can play all outfield positions and infield positions.  He has an arm that plays at short and center and Buxton type speed for center if needed.  His hit tool is the only thing that is suspect at this point.  He made adjustments late in 2019 that appeared to help but without seeing him play recently hard to say just where he is at with the bat.
    Given the info I have I still think Lewis should be number one until he proves he can't hit close to the other two guys. Miranda has the best bat and might be able to play a good third base I just don't know a ton about his defense. I would put him second right now as OPS rules and he has power.  Once I know more about Martin maybe I will have him higher but what I see right now I put him third on my list but since he does have some speed etc he could be number 1 or 2 as well just depends on what you value most.
    I don't know who to pick for pitcher.  Winder has probably been the most consistent and he has pitched the whole year so far.  Balazovich when on looks like he might have slightly better stuff.  Duran has the splinker but his results haven't been elite to this point but more slightly better than average.  Don't know much about Ryan reading he doesn't have great secondary's gives me pause. SWR has control problems and backed up at AA.  I think you could make a case for any of them but I still like Balazovich best with Winder next.  I know Canterino has been uber dominant but it is hard to judge when you don't see guys play and Canterino hasn't pitched much at the higher levels.  They all seem pretty close to me though and I could make a case for any of them right now Jordan would be my pick but that could easily change.
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    roger got a reaction from D.C Twins in The Twins Bought Low on Austin Martin   
    He has played what, three months of AA ball after sitting out a year following college and some are downgrading his potential.  And he is playing while dealing with an injured hand.  Bah Humbug!
    I am amazed that the Twins were able to pry him away from Toronto.  Why you ask?  Looked at Toronto's draft last year.  They paid this kid $7.0M to sign, which was $820,000 over the allotted slot of $6.18M.  That was the second highest bonus paid last year, which ties to some who maintain he was one of the top two prospects in the draft.  The result was that the Jays ended up around 5% over their allotted pool, ie, they paid a hefty tax.  With everything Toronto paid to get this kid, I doubt their opinion slipped, especially considering he is playing with that injury. 
    So why were the Twins able to get this kid and a top notch young pitcher?  Easy, they traded one hell of a great young pitcher who will help the Jays battle for the playoffs this year and next.  Berrios just may be an ACE, but most of us here have nitpicked his talent apart for the past whatever years.  Why, probably in part because the bloody Twins haven't been able to satisfy our yearning for some playoff success.  
    None of us knows what the future holds for this young man.  But odds are pretty darn good that he is gonna be heck of a good one.
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