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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from bird in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    My wording probably wasn't the best. In the Royals case, they took a bad farm system and made it worse. With our farm system, I'm absolutely willing to trade some of our guys, but I don't want it to be repetitive in trying to find "the guy." I'd rather trade for a "stud" and give up a few more prospects then repeatedly trade the farm for a stopgap. That's what got the Wild in trouble to the point where they had no draft picks and the ones they had have come up short on expectations. Let's avoid that when making trades, otherwise I'm all for it if it moves the needle significantly. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from bird in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    Doesn't matter, they traded the good value they had and are consistently losing 90 games for the next few years. They had a barren farm system and depleted it more. I'm sorry, but I'm getting tired of watching 90 loss teams. The Cardinals are an organization that has proved time and time again that you can spend, you can trade, and you can develop new generations of talents without rebuilding. They've done it pretty successfully too. Give me that model. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from bird in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    They're always going to be the underdog in this scenario then. You can't beat the Yankees at spending and you won't ever be able to. It doesn't matter whether the Twins spend $200 million or $100 million. The way you're going to beat the Yankees is by making smart, calculated moves that level the playing field. Every move this offseason would've simply closed the gap. Cole and Verlander would've more than likely beat Mad Bum or Ryu in game 1. Go find me the next Verlander, Greinke, or Cole on the trade market and I'll buy in to acquiring them. That's how you beat the Yankees, you find someone with talent and stuff, and use Wes Johnson's magic to turn the table. How do I know this? It has happened before. Someone by the name of Johan Santana. How'd the Twins fare in his game one starts against the Yankees? They won both of them. Get me stuff, get me potential, get me a pitching coach's magic, and I'll be inclined to make a move.  
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from bird in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    The numbers don't matter here. It's not about tomorrow in the argument, it's about the playoffs. If you play the Yankees or Astros in game 1 of the ALDS and have Ryu or Mad Bum in game 1 vs. Cole or Verlander, who's going to win. Chances are if we play this scenario out 100 times, the Yankees and Astros will win more than 50% of the time. They have the better pitcher. This offseason for some seems to be about closing the gap. I don't care about closing the gap, I want to level the playing field, and in this case, I think the Twins chose waiting for the latter rather than having the former result in another quick playoff exit. Why pay $140 million to lose in the 1st round when you can do it for $110 million. Give me a realistic chance to level the playing field that the Twins pass up on trading for, drafting, or signing, then I will agree with this
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from beckmt in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    Doesn't matter, they traded the good value they had and are consistently losing 90 games for the next few years. They had a barren farm system and depleted it more. I'm sorry, but I'm getting tired of watching 90 loss teams. The Cardinals are an organization that has proved time and time again that you can spend, you can trade, and you can develop new generations of talents without rebuilding. They've done it pretty successfully too. Give me that model. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from beckmt in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    If we consider the 2001-2010 Twins as one window, it goes against that 5-year myth. Additionally, they successfully did that by making trades and shuffling the cards, so in this market, a long-term window (of contention at least) is more than possible. If that's a playoff window, what is a world series window? The Indians have been in a world series window with that great bullpen and rotation, and even though they've lost key pieces from those teams, their playoff contention window is still very open and likely is until they trade Lindor, plus they have the rotation to win in the playoffs, so I'd say even though they very well might be the 3rd best team in the division, they could still win a world series with their roster. Windows are subjective, require talent, involve risk, and require smart front office operations that are willing to spend, but be flexible. Give yourself the best chance to win now and give yourself enough of a future imo is the key to a good window. It's why I like where the Twins are now, but it is almost to the point of too comfortable
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to Rosterman in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    Every season you have to add two position players (one parttime) and three pitchers to the mix, which means they are repalcing players leaving. You can supplement that with either a prospect or a free agent.
     
    Basically for 2020 the Twins are addint a parttime catcher from outside, a second baeman from inside. They still need to add a rotation arm. They have added at least one bullpen arm and another from within the system is a possibility. 
     
    Yes, they still need a first baseman but the tandem of Garver/Sano/Gonzales seems workable.
     
    Injuries happen, which may allow you to see an outfielder of the future in 2020 like Kirilloff or Larnach (or Rooker/Raley).
     
    Hopefully a prospect arm will stick for 2020 (Dobnak or Thorpe). You still have Graterol in the mix. The Twins could conceivably have three arms pitching aprts of 2020 that will carry them towards 2025.
     
    Depending on what happens with Sano and Buxton and Berrios, the Twins are pretty set for the next three years at least. If they extend those guys, well beyond. I trust some fine dafting and an overloaded system of prospects to keep the bullpen full of fresh new arms, make a dominant rotation that the Twins will have under control for the next 6-8 seasons, and cover all their on-field position needs.
     
    And I don't see them spending the bank on anyone player in the next decade. I doubt that will give Sano $20+ million a year. Berrios might be the closest, but hopes are theyc an tie him up for the next 4-6 years on a reasonable deal, then let him walk if he becaomes really expensive.
     
    I believe in the front office. Running a tight economical ship. Making wise signings. The conflict comes that we all feel they should spend the money they have available, no matter the player, just because they can. Is that the right move?
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Hosken Bombo Disco in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    My wording probably wasn't the best. In the Royals case, they took a bad farm system and made it worse. With our farm system, I'm absolutely willing to trade some of our guys, but I don't want it to be repetitive in trying to find "the guy." I'd rather trade for a "stud" and give up a few more prospects then repeatedly trade the farm for a stopgap. That's what got the Wild in trouble to the point where they had no draft picks and the ones they had have come up short on expectations. Let's avoid that when making trades, otherwise I'm all for it if it moves the needle significantly. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to bird in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    I'm wondering if Thad has possibly used language that to an extent belies the way Falvey views the organization's strategy here. I get the sense, from Falvey's conversations about two things some commenters love to mock, namely sustainability and financial flexibility, that he's attempting to construct a new paradigm.
     
    IMO, the new market inefficiency is financial inflexibility. IMO, maintaining a semblance of economic health is critical if the goal is sustainable baseball excellence. IMO, Falvey is focused on three economic pillars: available cash, liquid major league assets, and a valuable talent pipeline.
     
    I know the arguments here by heart, trust me. One argument is that the Twins never trade prospects. The other is that they never pay the big bucks in free agency. IMO, the second argument will continue to be true, and the former will become a remnant of the past regime.
     
    IMO, teams that completely forfeit "financial flexibility" are subjected to the old window thing. As are teams who completely deplete their pipeline, as, even with the highest of high draft picks, it takes a few years to replenish those assets. 
     
    The last key, one Falvey has not yet had available to him, is the opportunity to trade extremely valuable MLB assets when a comparable replacement emerges from the pipeline. This year may be his first small opportunity, with Cave and/or Rosario, and perhaps with a flip or two of bullpen arms. Falvey hasn't yet had the luxury of high-value redundancy on the big league roster.
     
    Bottom line, IMO, is maintaining healthy and appreciating asset values depends on getting most of your WAR from those young, controllable players, having success in skill development throughout the system, being willing to take advantage of opportunities to cash in on players who are redundant and getting expensive, and keeping enough powder dry to grave dance on teams who suffer from financial inflexibility. No more windows perhaps?
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to rdehring in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    I believe that as long as this front office remains, the window will be open much longer than expected or the norm.  They have two of their cornerstones, Kepler and Polanco, signed thru 2025, including options.  Will they extend that another couple years in the future?  Should they negotiate similar length contracts for more dollars with Buxton and Berrios this winter, they will have four (five including Garver) of the best young players in the game playing through at least 2025. 
     
    Kirilloff, Larnach, Graterol, Balazovic, and Lewis won't be arriving until next summer or the following year.  All five are not likely to become superstars, but I would be shocked if at least two do with another one or two becoming solid big league players.  All of these player will be under team control until 2025 or beyond.  
     
    Additional players will come up thru the system to augment this core group of 8 to 10 players.  If management does a little bit every offseason and at each trade deadline, there is no reason that the Twins window cannot remain open thru 2025 and beyond.  I don't view this window as being favorites to win the world series, more that they are in the hunt for division championships and likely in the playoffs.  And we all know that once in the playoffs, anything can happen.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to DocBauer in Front Page: How Long is the Twins Championship Window?   
    First, tremendous OP, Nick. I especially liked the O'dowd comments because they are real. Kudos.
     
    The one comment, in all sports, that has always frustrated and confounded me is "This team is built for the playoffs". (I shake my head again just thinking about it). It is the worst case of hyperbole. It's as if someone assembled a team/roster and SOMEHOW the regular season should be skipped and we should somehow skip said regular season and just assemble a collection of teams based on paper and fantasy projection and just jump so some playoff scenario to decide the champion.
     
    It doesn't work that way. If it did, the Twins would have been virtually excluded in 1987. The Patriots would have just been handed the Lombardi trophy a few years back instead of having to actually PLAY, and lose to the Giants simply because they were the "best team assembled".
     
    While some want to scream "cheap" about "financial flexibility" as though it were an ugly 4 letter or hyphenated word, it is not. In MLB, we are seeing teams, and have seen glimpses previously, now looking to shed excessive payroll they themselves created. Take Boston as an example.
     
    Am I off topic or digressing? Not at all.
     
    The Twins window opened up in 2019 through a variety of factors, mostly due to health and progression of the core in place, along with a few smart additions. And yet, for various reasons, there remains room for INTERNAL improvement, based on experience/development and in some cases, health. Unless suddenly traded in mass, there is a collection of top prospects nearly ready to add and replace losses over the next year or so. This, even allowing for the loss of current players/prospects.
     
    You trade Rosario, Larnach is close to replacing him. Or Kirilloff does with Raley or Rooker taking over or sliding in to 1B. Lewis, untradedm could be at 3B/SS/CF. The point isn't horde prospects, but just don't dump them all so that you have options.
     
    We simply will not be able to keep and re-sign everyone. Trades will happen for various reasons. Some prospects will flame out. Others will surprise. Some trades will pan out, others will not. But additions and development will be key over time. The best run franchises with any sort of "sustainability" prove that to be true. As the Twins are constructed, RIGHT NOW, from the ML roster on down, knowing there will be losses here and there, I would say there is a legitimate window of 3 to 4 years. That's the best I can give because there are just too many factors in place.
     
    Example: we keep Berrios but lose Sano and Buxton. They are replaced Lewis and Javier.
     
    Give me the best, most competitive, versatile team you can put together every season for a shot, and I'll take that.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from SwainZag in Front Page: Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments   
    I think Diaz is vital to this team. I like his relationship with the Latin players. Instead of threatening to fire the guy, maybe we could propose him moving over to 1st base or into the dugout......... Just a thought. Just because he hasn't been a great 3B coach doesn't mean he's not an asset. The guy is a human being people. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Jerr in Front Page: Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments   
    I think Diaz is vital to this team. I like his relationship with the Latin players. Instead of threatening to fire the guy, maybe we could propose him moving over to 1st base or into the dugout......... Just a thought. Just because he hasn't been a great 3B coach doesn't mean he's not an asset. The guy is a human being people. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from nokomismod in Front Page: Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments   
    It's just frustrating. Today was just a reminder that improvement isn't linear. They're still a playoff team and at worst right now would host a home wild card game. I'm frustrated, but I'll let everyone else be (rightfully) angry. I'm going to think positive because there were some positives. They played good defensive baseball today and outside of Rogers got some good bullpen performances. I'm not discounting the problems they had today, but there were some positives. Take the day off tomorrow, refresh, and beat up the Brewers and Rangers this week. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Kelly Vance in Front Page: Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments   
    I think Diaz is vital to this team. I like his relationship with the Latin players. Instead of threatening to fire the guy, maybe we could propose him moving over to 1st base or into the dugout......... Just a thought. Just because he hasn't been a great 3B coach doesn't mean he's not an asset. The guy is a human being people. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Platoon in Front Page: Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments   
    I think Diaz is vital to this team. I like his relationship with the Latin players. Instead of threatening to fire the guy, maybe we could propose him moving over to 1st base or into the dugout......... Just a thought. Just because he hasn't been a great 3B coach doesn't mean he's not an asset. The guy is a human being people. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Riverbrian in Front Page: Twins Game Recap (8/11): Frustrating Loss Marred by Heartbreaking Moments   
    It's just frustrating. Today was just a reminder that improvement isn't linear. They're still a playoff team and at worst right now would host a home wild card game. I'm frustrated, but I'll let everyone else be (rightfully) angry. I'm going to think positive because there were some positives. They played good defensive baseball today and outside of Rogers got some good bullpen performances. I'm not discounting the problems they had today, but there were some positives. Take the day off tomorrow, refresh, and beat up the Brewers and Rangers this week. 
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Han Joelo in Article: Twins Sign Left-Handed Pitcher Martin Perez   
    I think they see a LH Kyle Gibson. Took a look at his pitch percentages in comparison to pre-2018 Gibson. Like pre-2018 Gibson, his main pitch was 92 mph sinker. They both throw their changeup around 20% of the time. Additionally, they both have a breaking ball (curve for Perez, Slider for Gibson) that could be considered a swing and miss pitch if they used it in more appropriate situations. Just guessing......
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to Old Twins Cap in Article: PHI 2, MIN 1: Kepler Stays Hot, Hoskins Pops Deciding Homer   
    Didn't see the game.  Buxton have good ABs?
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to Nine of twelve in Article: PHI 2, MIN 1: Kepler Stays Hot, Hoskins Pops Deciding Homer   
    So we're 5-3. A lot of folks will say, "meh". Well, going 5-3 every 8 games allows you to meh your way to a 100-win season.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan reacted to tarheeltwinsfan in Article: PHI 2, MIN 1: Kepler Stays Hot, Hoskins Pops Deciding Homer   
    The Twins did pretty well considering there was no place for Cruz to play except to pinch hit. The big question is how will the Twins solve this problem when playing at the National League park in the World Series this season?.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from caninatl04 in Article: Could Martin Perez Be 2019's Anibal Sanchez?   
    I hope so! I think the thing that gives me hope is that this signing was made with a plan in mind. It seems like in the past, these moves have been made to add an arm with no strategy whatsoever. The Twins now seem to at least have a plan with every player they have, and even if it's not enough to put them in the playoffs, it gives me hope in this team long term.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from howieramone2 in Article: Could Martin Perez Be 2019's Anibal Sanchez?   
    I hope so! I think the thing that gives me hope is that this signing was made with a plan in mind. It seems like in the past, these moves have been made to add an arm with no strategy whatsoever. The Twins now seem to at least have a plan with every player they have, and even if it's not enough to put them in the playoffs, it gives me hope in this team long term.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from DocBauer in Article: Could Martin Perez Be 2019's Anibal Sanchez?   
    I hope so! I think the thing that gives me hope is that this signing was made with a plan in mind. It seems like in the past, these moves have been made to add an arm with no strategy whatsoever. The Twins now seem to at least have a plan with every player they have, and even if it's not enough to put them in the playoffs, it gives me hope in this team long term.
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    whatyouknowtwinsfan got a reaction from Thiéres Rabelo in Article: Could Martin Perez Be 2019's Anibal Sanchez?   
    I hope so! I think the thing that gives me hope is that this signing was made with a plan in mind. It seems like in the past, these moves have been made to add an arm with no strategy whatsoever. The Twins now seem to at least have a plan with every player they have, and even if it's not enough to put them in the playoffs, it gives me hope in this team long term.
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