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  1. The pundits all said the record would stand until it was broken, and that's exactly how it worked out.
    6 points
  2. The usage of Moran, both with the Twins and the Saints, has been extremely odd to me. He always gets sent out for two, sometimes three innings, like a long reliever. Given the pitches he has, shouldn’t he be used for an inning, maybe two on rare occasions?
    6 points
  3. I assumed that the 4 points related to concerns about Donaldson's trade value were: 1. His health, 2. His health, 3. the health he is experiencing, and 4. How much health he has.
    5 points
  4. I don't see the Twins unloading Donaldson. Most of the teams with high payrolls that could take him are pretty tapped out and or have more pressing needs than an aging 3rd baseman\DH. Having the Twins put in 6 to 10M per year to get rid of him for a decent prospect doesn't make much sense to me either. Paying another team 6 to 10 per year to watch your player OPS 820 to 850 for them seems like a bad use of money to me and If you are essentially paying a team 15 to 20 million for a prospect it better be a really good one. It also doesn't make the FO look good as they negotiated that deal and no one else will pay it? That is a bad visual IMO. I think if they could unload the full Donaldson contract and then invest that money in one of the good FA SS this year that would make sense. If they think Miranda is ready to replace him at third they could do that although I doubt Miranda OPS's 800 at the MLB level his first season. Like I said I think they keep him as he is providing what he was paid to provide which is 20 some homers an OPS over 800 and a decent walk rate making him a tough out at the plate. If a team wants him they need to pony up IMO and if the Twins do move him they need to reinvest that money in top tier pitching or someone who can play shortstop long term. This is a tough offseason to gauge with a new CBA to be negotiated so that might play into things as well.
    5 points
  5. How to spell the right term for a guy like Jax whos is consistently excellent the first time through the order, gets hit hard the second time, and gets absolutely shelled the third time? R-E-L-I-E-F PITCHER . I think Jax has some talent but I also think we've seen enough to know that he isn't a top 5 starter on a winning team. I think the issue is whether he provides more value as the 7th or 8th starter awaiting the call from AAA or whether he could be an effective reliever in a MLB Bullpen. I would love to give him a try in the bullpen this year but with all of the injuries I don't know that we have anyone to take his place if we give him a shot in relief. I'm glad Gordon played SS last night and I think we should keep doing it. I didn't see the game but we need to know if he can hold down that position. If he can't, he's a utility player fighting for the 25th or 26th spot on the 2022 Twins and we go out and get a FA SS in the off season. If he can, then we spend our SS money on pitching. One game isn't enough to know. I'd like to see him start at SS for at least 12 of the last 16 games so we can find out if he's a possible answer.
    5 points
  6. The thing is that fans always dream on prospects, whether they're good or bad. We all banked a lot on Nick Blackburn - even though deep down we knew better - at one point, too. It's part of being a fan, looking and hoping for the upside buried in even the most flawed prospect. The reality is that Baseball Prospectus ranked the Twins system 22nd to open 2017. Baseball America ranked the Twins system 21st to open 2017. I can't find MLB.com's rankings past the top ten but the Twins weren't in it. And the MLB pitching staff had the 19th best ERA in baseball in 2016 with few changes made to enter 2017. Those are the actual numbers. Were there promising players? Sure, there are "promising" players in even the 28th ranked farm system. Was it a good system, particularly in regards to pitching? Absolutely not, full stop.
    5 points
  7. Does Jax have good stuff, though? I'm increasingly unconvinced. He's got good command and control, but he doesn't have a ton of velocity or movement on his fastball and all of his off-speed stuff just seems...ok. He looks like a guy who needs to go back and re-tool something in the offseason to have any hope of surviving as a starter, and without a go-to out pitch I'm not sure he has much future as a reliever except as a long man/mop-up guy. I like the guy and he was worth giving a shot, but...right now he just looks bad. When Berrios was getting his brains kicked in, he still had a lively fastball and a plus curve to work with. Not sure jax has the weapons to compete. I'm confused as to why Moran got sent out for that long of an outing as well. Do they really think he's a 2+ inning guy? With his change-up I still think he's going to be fine, but I'm not sure that 30+ pitch outings are in his wheelhouse
    5 points
  8. Torres was just moved back to 2nd base because he isn't a shortstop. Why trade for another 2nd baseman? I don't mind looking beyond the big names in free agency, but the Twins need a glove at shortstop.
    5 points
  9. Kume34

    "Who's on first?"

    Recently, I found myself watching an old Abbott and Costello movie and I was quickly reminded about how funny they were. If you’re an old time comedy fan, you’ve most likely heard the Abbott and Costello “Who’s on first?” comedy routine. If you haven’t heard it or haven’t seen it, find it on line and laugh out loud. Abbott and Costello were comedic geniuses but who knew they could predict the future when they gave their first national radio performance of “Who’s on first?” in 1938. The current Twins roster can be assembled into a potent line up every game of the year but under a microscope, it appears Abbott and Costello could see the upcoming 2022 Twins roster back when the Twins were still the Washington Senators. “Who’s on first?” The Twins have had some great first basemen since day one in 1961. Currently, first base has become a home for Miguel Sano but it’s been by default. At times, the former third baseman has given us a glimpse of a great arm and a good glove but he is not consistent with either of those tools. He’s destined to be a DH but his plate discipline has to be weighing on the Twins front office as Sano will be 29 years old next season and has shown no signs of improving his strike out rate. Sano is on track for over 200 strike outs per season and a subpar batting average every year if he ever plays a full season of injury free baseball. Will Sano stay at first or will the Twins ultimately move on with Alex Kirilloff, Max Kepler, Brent Rooker or even Mitch Garver? So that leaves the question, “Who’s on first?” “What’s on second.” The former starting shortstop is what’s on second. Jorge Polanco has moved from shortstop to second base where his defensive skills a better suited. Polanco has become a star as he continues to improve offensively every season and my opinion is that he should stay at second for the foreseeable future. The problem is that the Twins organization has several middle infielders that might be better suited playing second base or in the outfield than they are suited playing shortstop. That being the case along with the Twins current shortstop Andrelton Simmons becoming a free agent at the end of the season leads to the question of will he or won’t he regarding Polanco returning to shortstop next season. Polanco has to be on the field as many games as possible but so does future batting champion Luis Arraez who is also a second baseman. What to do, is still a question at second base. “I don’t know.” That sums up third base for the Twins since Corey Koskie’s last season with the team in 2004. Former AL MVP Josh Donaldson has been a decent addition when he’s in the lineup. The problem is that father time and the injury bug have caught up with Donaldson to a larger extent than expected. Unfortunately, it’s as if he needs to be listed as "day to day" on the injury report every day of the season. Is Luis Arraez the answer at third? I don’t think so but I don’t know. To the minors. Do you hear crickets? Yes? That’s because the Twins number of third base minor league prospects has been thin in recent years. Jose Miranda has played some third base at St. Paul (AAA) this year, but he has played all over the infield throughout his minor league career. His offensive numbers are fantastic this season but is he another middle infielder trying to fit in at another position. I don’t know. “I don’t give a darn./I don’t care.” Now I know that Twins management/ownership gives a darn and cares about shortstop but…. 2007 Jason Bartlett to Tampa. 2008/09 Brendan Harris (fill in the roster). 2010 JJ Hardy to Baltimore. 2011 Trevor Plouffe to right field to third base. 2012 Brian Dozier to second base. 2013 Pedro Florimon to minors and Pirates. 2014/15 Eduardo Escobar (temporary) to Arizona. 2015/16 Eduardo Nunez to Boston. 2017 Jorge Polanco arrives but is now at second base. This is a list of successful players but it can be easily interpreted as the Twins thinking that they can plug anybody in at the most important defensive position on the field. Help me applaud the Twins for signing Andrelton Simmons and his gold glove this season. Maybe he’ll be back to solidify that side of the infield again next season. If not…Polanco, Luis Arraez, Nick Gordon or Royce Lewis (big debut) are possible candidates. Stop the turnover, give a darn and care by solidifying the position. “Why?” This one is a stretch but why not? Why are you out here in left field, Luis Arraez? Because you and your bat have to be in the lineup. Why are you out here, Alex Kirilloff? Because you’re ready for the majors and you need to have plenty of at bats and not be on the bench. Why are you out here, Trevor Larnach and Brent Rooker? Because it’s your major league auditions. These four Twins are all good answers for the question why. “Because.” Buxton in center field. We’ve seen what he can do. Extend the contract. Enough said! Right? Just because. “Today.” Mitch Garver is the catcher today, when he’s healthy. It took a few years to get to today from Joe Mauer but Garver is today. Improved defense and a potent bat make him the catcher of today. Pair him with a young good defensive catcher in Ryan Jeffers and the Twins have a good duo behind the plate every day, not just today. “Tomorrow.” Wow, how appropriate is this for Twins starting pitching? It’s been more than a decade of tomorrows since the Twins had a lights out ace on the staff. With Kenta Maeda hurt, there isn’t one starter to list on the depth chart for the 2022 season. It’s going to take one big off season to figure out all 5 starters for the Twins in 2022. For now, TBD is penciled in as the probable starter tomorrow. “When?” Right field isn’t accounted for by Abbott and Costello’s “Who’s on first?” routine so please allow me to adlib just a little bit. When will Max Kepler put it all together offensively? Defense, no issues but he needs to hit both righties and lefties consistently from season to season to carry a better batting average, OBP and OPS. He should not be a platoon outfielder because of the oppositions starting pitcher. There are several good outfielders in the Twins system including players on the bench and in the minor leagues who would love to take over the every day duties in right field. When will Max Kepler make it over the hump? When will one of the many talented Twins outfielders overtake Kepler on the depth chart? It’s a when, when situation for the TWHENS (Twins) in right field. Falvey: Who’s on first? Levine: Sano Falvey: Say no to what? Levine: What’s on second. And we’ll leave it at that……
    4 points
  10. Update: They definitely did change it The phrase "strike calls on breaking balls in the dirt" surely explains at least a part of some of the wacky stat lines (like Sabato's 50%+ combined walk and strikeout rate) that have come from that league.
    4 points
  11. As the season comes to an end I find myself wondering which is best for an organization, a minor league system with teams winning and a few championships or teams with so-so records, but a a star or two on each team putting up eye popping numbers? Successful teams doesn't necessarily mean that the system will provide players to the big league club, players who become solid starters or all-stars. But it does give those players who move up the experiences related to winning. So I expect the answer most would give is you want both. Considering all of the Twins full-season teams have winning records this year, they certainly are winning throughout the organization. And with players like Miranda, Martin, Royce Lewis (injured), Winder, Balazovic, Duran (injured), Canterino (injured), Enlow (injured), SWR, and others, they have more than their share of top prospects. So this year at least, the answer for the Twins is BOTH. Will that mean the Twins will also win two or three years from now and beyond? We are gonna have to wait and see!
    4 points
  12. So they had SWR pitch again today, huh? I guess that explains why he only got three innings last time out. Good to see Steer with the big hit. His numbers have taken a hit since arriving at AA, but within an acceptable limit for the sizeable jump from A+ to AA. If he takes another step forward next year, he will be poised to do damage in the bigs. I would like to see a bat or two from AAA come up and get a chance... Miranda should be up here now, and I'd like to see Jimmy Kerrigan. He's raking as of late and has plus speed. If I'm not mistaken I believe he will be a free agent, so why not give him a shot?
    4 points
  13. Nope. A premium fielder is needed. And, Torres ain't it.
    3 points
  14. But they'll pay that amount for an aging 3B? The "Pohlads are cheap" bit is getting old. They obviously don't spend anywhere near the top of the league, but they also don't spend anywhere near the bottom feeders either. Sure, I'd like them to do more, and sure I think they CAN do more, but this organization is VERY reactionary; to combat the remembrance of a terrible, terrible 2021 season, I think it's almost certain they're going to go hard at a big time free agent even if it's for the wrong reasons. Seager may very well not want to come to MN, but there are five elite SS available in free agency, they aren't all going to have the luxury of both getting paid AND being choosey about their destination. But my guess: C - Garver 1B - Sano 2B - Polanco 3B - Donaldson SS - Trevor Story RF - Kepler CF - Buxton LF - Kirilloff DH - Cruz Arraez will be moved along with some prospects for pitching.
    3 points
  15. C - Garver 1B - Kirilloff 2B - Polanco SS - TBD FA (or trade) 3B - Donaldson LF - Larnach CF - Buxton RF - Kepler DH - Sano I think there's a strong possibility that Kepler gets dealt, but I included him here anyway. I agree with John in that they don't bring back Cruz. I'm not sure that I want them too. Let Sano DH and Kiriloff man 1B. I like Arraez's bat, but I don't know where to play him in the field. I'm 100000000% against moving Polanco back to SS even if that creates a place for Arraez.
    3 points
  16. Honestly, if the Twins want a cheap, relatively short contract with a player who has utility and the arm to play SS, they should sign Eduardo Escobar and put him back at SS. His sprint speed and jump all look good enough to play SS adequately and he has the arm strength for it. He turns 33 in January next year and I expect a 2-3 year contract will get him at a price around where he's currently being paid. Escobar playing 3B has more to do with teams he's played at not needing a SS than Escobar being unable to handle the position.
    3 points
  17. Most likely not primarily due to the pitchers themselves but more the new automatic strike zone which has definitely messed with hitters and lead to sky high walk and strikeout rates. I think I heard that they even adjusted the limits of the zone midseason though I'm not sure about that.
    3 points
  18. Name 5 times that he watched a 3rd strike go by "when the at bat really counts." This is exactly why front offices all around the league use the numbers and not just their memory for things like this. Arraez has struck out 43 total times this entire season and you're on here acting like he's watching 3rd strikes go by constantly. Your brain locks in on the moments that created the most emotional reaction for you and that appears to be a called 3rd strike or 2 against Arraez and you've decided one of the 5 hardest guys in baseball to strikeout is striking out too much looking in clutch situations. It's absurd.
    3 points
  19. I have been a Burrows critic to this point but what he did in that game was impressive. I still think the pen is his only shot but with performances like that maybe I will be wrong. Just nice not see him get shelled for once. Varland has had a crazy good season. Have to believe he starts at AA next year. He had no trouble adjusting to High A ball at all. Other than K rate his number actually look better at High A than A ball. He has dominated both leagues so I think he has earned starting at AA next year. Cabbage with another HR. I wonder if the Twins are going to have to protect him from rule V and add him to the 40 man? He is nearing 30 HR's on the year and his OPS is near 900 which puts him in pretty elite company. I know that 36% K rate makes it tough for him to translate to MLB ball but with his age and power have to believe a bottom team would be willing to take a chance to find out. Was happy to see the Surge win. I think with one more win they can clinch their division but they have struggles against Arkansas so not a done deal yet. Nice to see guys improving.
    3 points
  20. A lot of us wanted to see what these young players could do in a lost season and so there are going to be nights like tonight. Almost all pitchers have trouble adjusting to the MLB level when working against the best of the best. Berrios was horrible his first season should we have given up on him right away? Our experienced hitters didn't fair too well in this game either. Sometimes games go off the rails even for good teams. I have seen Tampa crushed by Baltimore etc. etc. Jax has some good stuff whether it is enough to stay in the rotation or not is hard to say at this point but he certainly can be a pen arm if needed. The first time through the order went well the second time not so much. Not sure why they had Moran out there that long other than to rest the bullpen as much as possible since they have pitched the majority innings recently, but it was a bit painful watching him struggle. Still it should help him better understand what will and will not work at this level. Watching that game was hard not gonna lie. With so little offense and poor pitching my time would have been better spent doing other things so I get the frustration but I do think failure games like this help young pitchers learn and I would rather them learn now than next year when we are trying to earn a playoff spot.
    3 points
  21. I just shake my head at the "approach" many Twins hitters have at the plate. And by that, I mean they DON'T seem to have any approach. Kepler is a prime example. The Twins need a new hitting coach in the worst way. I'm not saying that will "solve everything" but it's obvious to me the current coach is not up to the task. I agree with Doc that the offense has the "potential" to be fine next year and the primary focus HAS to be on pitching. That said, a different hitting coach would help with the current talent that needs "improvement" that being Kepler, Sano (who has been better these last 4-6 weeks) Garver, Kiriloff and Larnach. I do think a steady vet SS like Iglesias or Galvis as a bridge to Lewis/Martin or whoever, is a good idea as well as a 4th OF'er who bats RH. Those are minor moves but should be "on the list." I like the fact that Torres was suggested. It makes for a good conversation. But I would vote "No" as well. We need a glove at SS and that's not Gleybor.
    3 points
  22. Yes. Gordon at SS. Good or bad, let's figure out what's happening next year. What do we have to lose right now? Fourth place? Big deal, look ahead and figure out how to move forward. If he can't play SS, fine, figure out the next step. Agreed on Moran- how is it helping him develop by leaving him in for multiple innings until the wheels fall off? What are we learning there? Ridiculous. OK, let's go back and check the betting lines- who had Jax/Ryan/Ober/Barnes/Albers as our starters in September? That pretty much describes the year, doesn't it? I would add Pineda but he's about due to get hurt again, I think. I want to learn as much as we can about our young players' chances and then end the 2021 season with a stake in its heart.
    3 points
  23. I don't know if we can consider Gibson's 2014 "decent", though. He pitched to an 87 ERA+. He was decent in 2015, for sure. Then he regressed massively in 2016, pitching to an 83 ERA+. My point is that if you flash back to the end of 2016, no one looked at the career of Kyle Gibson and felt comfortable that he was an acceptable MLB starter going forward. Saying otherwise is purely hindsight. We HOPED he could become a decent pitcher but he didn't even do that in 2017, either. It was all the way into 2018 when he finally started performing at a consistent level (2015 was a yo-yo that gave us hope but had plenty of bad mixed with the good).
    3 points
  24. Have to add my No to the chorus here. Why give up a starting, albeit average, corner OF for a guy who is not a quality SS? Our list of middle IF prospects who fall short as SSs goes on and on - Polanco, Gordon, Lewis(if scouting reports are accurate), nor do Miranda or Martin seem to fit well at arguably the most important defensive position. Might as well resign Simmons for another gap year while we hope one of younger SS prospects emerge as a long term answer. If I'm trading Kepler, I want to use him as a key piece in acquiring as young, controlled starter who has already shown potential to be a #1 or, at worse, a #2 next year. That is a far more pressing need if FO really intends to return to contention next year.
    3 points
  25. Astudillo and Cruz (if they signed him) would be in the way of getting the younger guys up. Cabbage, Miranda, Lewis, and Martin should all be up at some point next year. Kirilloff, Larnach and Buxton should all be healthy (hopefully) and need to play regularly. Astudillo could place hold, but Cruz would be a luxury, a nice luxury, but still a luxury.
    2 points
  26. I’d have Celestino waiting in AAA as Buxton insurance. To be honest I haven’t looked much at the FA OF market yet. Since I spent a huge amount signing Seager the 4th OF would have to be on the cheaper side. I don’t know if Garlick is the right guy. Hopefully someone a little better who is not just a platoon player against LH pitching. Then they can split time with Larnach in LF.
    2 points
  27. Polanco has to stay at 2b. Not Arraez, unless they trade Jorge. So I say let's see what Gordon can do at SS. Run him out there for the rest of the season. Let him get comfortable, at least for a few games.
    2 points
  28. I'm not sure how you arrived at #4, personality. I watch and/or listen to too many Twins games and I do not see any problems whatsoever. Because I have never met JD and do not know him it seems odd to me to include personality in your post. Health is the only item that slows down Josh Donaldson at this time. He and Jorge Polanco are the only two steady figures right now for the Twins lineup. I do wonder if JD can play an effective 1B to add to his play at 3B and use as a DH. There needs to be a place to try Jose Miranda and Alex Kirilloff next season if they are with the team.
    2 points
  29. I think they keep him as a mentor/on field coach for Miranda. I also think they work out some sort of rotation @ 3B, 1B, DH and LF/RF with Sano (who I personally would like to see traded), Donaldson, Miranda, Kirilloff and Larnach. Days off and positional flexibility may help keep everyone on the field and performing.
    2 points
  30. I think you have to let him play it out. He's such a boom or bust player with the injuries .. At the moment you'd be selling low and eating a TON of money for not much in return. The best option the Twins have his to pray that he stays healthy the next few years and hope a team at the deadline in the talks themselves into taking on the remaining portion of his contract. It's not like the Twins are getting a player that hampers them when he plays too .. Still a very solid option at 3rd.
    2 points
  31. I don't like the idea of trading for a player who can't play SS well. I like the idea of Swanson, but that's really only an option if Atlanta signs a top SS... What about Miguel Rojas? 32, one year vesting option (which will vest in the next game or two), 3 WAR this year with 102 wRC+, 8.6 UZR/150 and 5 DRS in 2021. Although after looking further, it appears he wants to finish his playing career with the Marlins. Defense might be declining too. I'm guessing Nicky Lopez would be a bit far fetched. Kevin Newman? His offense stinks this year, but defense looks solid this year? Also, since July 24th, he has looked a lot better with 95 wRC+ and 736 OPS. (Lateral movement has been positive this year vs. negative previous years.) Nick Ahmed? He's had a down offensive year, but has typically been slightly below average at offense and solid defense. It seems like he has similar advanced offensive stats except that his barrel and hard hit % is down, I think my main takeaway after looking at shortstops around the league is there are either the stars (either signed or FAs) or the dart throws with the occasional younger SS that a team is hopeful for.
    2 points
  32. What does it cost us to look? More at-bats by Simmons? I'll pay that.
    2 points
  33. If one pitcher graduating is enough to send your prospect ratings into the bottom third of the league.....I don't think that helps your argument one single bit.
    2 points
  34. Producing a couple of studs each year is definitely primo, but winning sets a good tone. If I had to choose between the two, gimme the studs.
    2 points
  35. YES! Ugh, I know. And it's pretty sad that we are crossing our fingers and hoping the Twins can figure out how to do something as basic as this. I mean, this is Baseball 101. It's like talking about a plumber and saying "he really needs to figure out how to connect PVC pipes". Yeah, that's part of the job and he should have learned that on the first day of trade school! This team was predicted by just about all experts to finish 1st this season in the Central. They haven't just underperformed, they've been the biggest disaster in MLB this year. We all know that, but sometimes I think we collectively forget just how terrible this team is.
    2 points
  36. This is not evidence. Hence why it is you who is making the misleading claim that 2017's pitching was left "fine".
    2 points
  37. TRANSACTIONS Charlie Barnes was returned to the Saints after being the 29th man on Tuesday. SAINTS SENTINEL St. Paul 3, Indianapolis 2 Box Score Playing an afternoon matinee in Indianapolis, the Saints sent Beau Burrows to the bump. He tossed 6 1/3 innings of four-hit ball allowing just a single run. Burrows walked two and punched out six in what was among his best outings this season. St. Paul scored first as Sherman Johnson singled home Damek Tomscha in the 2nd inning. After allowing an equalizer in the bottom half, St. Paul added again in the 3rd inning. Jimmy Kerrigan drove in Jose Miranda on a single to center. Putting some distance between the clubs, Caleb Hamilton singled in the 4th inning to score Tomscha and make it a 3-1 game. Things got a bit dicey in the 9th inning when Yennier Cano allowed some traffic to turn into a run. He loaded the bases with a walk on a 3-2 pitch but generated a ground ball to end the game. Miranda continued his amazing season with a 3-for-4 effort and Tomscha had a multi-hit game as well tallying two doubles. WIND SURGE WISDOM Arkansas 10, Wichita 5 (Game 1) Box Score Suspended yesterday, here’s what Steve had to say about the action that did get played: Unfortunately for the Wind Surge, they played much of this game through some drizzle before the conditions became too much for them to continue. They had not yet completed five innings, so the game was suspended in the top of the fifth and will resume tomorrow. It had been a mixed bag before the game was paused, as Simeon Woods Richardson delivered a fantastic performance for the first three innings of the game, but upon his exit the Travelers struck to take the 4-1 lead against Ben Gross. In his outing, Woods Richardson allowed just two hits while striking out five in his three innings. He definitely looked like a top prospect in this one as compared to his prior outings. Of his 47 pitches in the game, 32 went for strikes (68%), including a whopping 12 swinging strikes. He got those swings and misses on all of his pitches as well, with his changeup especially (to my eyes) looking like it was fooling everyone. Wichita got their lone run in the bottom of the second thanks to an RBI infield single from Aaron Whitefield. Picking up in the 5th inning, Trey Cabbage made his presence felt launching his 18th homer of the year, a two-run shot that drew Wichita within one at 4-3. A 6th inning grand slam for Arkansas allowed a five-run inning to provide plenty of distance. Wichita attempted to make things interesting in the 8th inning when Andrew Bechtold singled in Cabbage and Aaron Whitefield drove in Spencer Steer. That 9-5 deficit was the closest things would get, and with Arkansas adding another run in the 9th inning, this one stayed out of reach. Wichita 6, Arkansas 4 (F/7 Game 2) Box Score Jordan Balazovic was on the bump for game two of this non-traditional doubleheader. It wasn’t his sharpest outing and the Twins top pitching prospect went just 3 2/3 innings allowing four runs on four hits and four walks while striking out five batters. Down 2-0 after the first inning, Wichita answered with two runs of their own in the 2nd inning. Jermaine Palacios singled driving in Leobaldo Cabrera, and Andrew Bechtold plated Palacios on a single of his own. Again trailing after the 4th inning, the Wind Surge answered with Spencer Steer ripping a bases loaded double to bring everyone home. Grabbing their first lead of the contest, Cedar Rapids was now on top 5-4. During a 6th inning Bechtold walk, Whitefield swiped third base and scored on an error by the Travelers backstop. 6-4 is where this on would end, and Roy Morales was the lone player to record a multi-hit effort going 3-for-4 on the evening. KERNELS NUGGETS Peoria 2, Cedar Rapids 1 Box Score Louie Varland has been dominant at the two levels of Class A ball this season, and he turned in another great start tonight for the Kernels. Working six innings, Varland allowed two runs (just one earned) on four hits and no walks. He punched out 11 batters on the evening and dropped his ERA to 2.10. Derek Molina struck out four batters over the final two innings. Jair Camargo drove in Aaron Sabato with a 5th inning single knotting the game at one, but that was the only run production the Kernels could muster and they fell just short. Camargo had a two-hit night and accounted for half of Cedar Rapids total. MUSSEL MATTERS Fort Myers 5, Tampa 2 Box Score Needing just seven total strikeouts to set a new team record, the Mighty Mussels eclipsed the team total set by the Miracle back in 2019. Starter John Stankiewicz picked up six of the necessary punch outs and worked six innings allowing just a single run on five hits and a walk. After getting behind in the first, Charles Mack recorded his second triple of the season plating both Misael Urbina and Will Holland to take the lead. Mack then drew a bases-loaded walk in the third to drive in Alerick Soularie before Jake Rucker was hit and allowed Christian Encarnacion-Strand to score. Kyle Fedko was hit by a pitch and allowed Holland to score. Three runs came across in the inning, and none were generated by a ball put in play. Tampa drew closers with a solo shot in the 9th inning, but the left the bases loaded and wound up on the short side of the scoreboard. Despite being scheduled for a twin bill, rain again impacted tonight’s plans and turned this into a one game, nine-inning affair. COMPLEX CHRONICLES Scheduled Day Off TWINS DAILY MINOR LEAGUE PLAYERS OF THE DAY Pitcher of the Day - Louie Varland (Cedar Rapids) - 6.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 11 K Hitter of the Day - Jose Miranda (St. Paul) - 3-4, R PROSPECT SUMMARY #1 - Royce Lewis (rehab) - Out for season (torn ACL) #2 - Austin Martin (Wichita) - 1-2, R, BB, K #3 - Jordan Balazovic (Wichita) - 3.2 IP, 4 H 4 R, 4 ER, 4 BB, 5 K #4 - Simeon Woods Richardson (Wichita) - Did not pitch #5 - Jhoan Duran (St. Paul) - Injured List (elbow strain) #6 - Jose Miranda (St. Paul) - 3-4, R #7 - Joe Ryan (Minnesota) - Did not pitch #8 - Matt Canterino (Cedar Rapids) - Injured List (right elbow strain) #9 - Chase Petty (Complex) - No game #10 - Keoni Cavaco (Fort Myers) - Temporarily Inactive List #11 - Josh Winder (St. Paul) - Injured List (right shoulder impingement) #12 - Matt Wallner (Cedar Rapids) - 0-3, BB #13 - Gilberto Celestino (St. Paul) - Did not play #14 - Drew Strotman (St. Paul) - Did not pitch #15 - Noah Miller (Complex) - No game #16 - Brent Rooker (Minnesota) - Did not play (Paternity List) #17 - Blayne Enlow (Cedar Rapids) - Out for season (Tommy John surgery) #18 - Misael Urbina (Fort Myers) - 1-3, R, BB #19 - Cole Sands (Wichita) - Did not pitch #20 - Spencer Steer (Wichita) - 1-3, 3 RBI THURSDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS St. Paul @ Indianapolis (6:05 PM CST) - RHP Derek Law (1-0, 3.20 ERA) Arkansas @ Wichita (7:05 PM CST) - RHP Chris Vallimont (5-7, 6.33 ERA) Cedar Rapids @ Peoria (6:35 PM CST) - RHP Sean Mooney (0-1, 9.00 ERA) Tampa @ Fort Myers, Game 1 (6:00 PM CST) - TBD Please feel free to ask questions and discuss Wednesday’s games!
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  38. I know they want to see if Moran can get thru a batting order, or that's the only explanation I see having him pitch, sit, pitch, sit, then come out yet again. He's a lefty. Is he that good that he faces everyone well and cane have his routine broken by stretches between innings? At some point, the Twins need to think of a way to get starters to pitch five complete innings. That would be a major step in the right direction, and it just ain't happening with Ober, Jax, Barnes, Gant, Albers. Maybe it is time to see if Jax can be used in long or multi-back-back-to-back days of relief. Bring up Strotman is you wish to elt pitchers learn by getting battered and staying in the game. Surely this is the "learning experience" of the current field staff and front office calls for the team.
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  39. Nice to see the strike out record broken.
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  40. Story only wants 4 years at $20M each? Yes, please. That's a bargain basement price for a 28 year old who has played like an All-Star 3 of the past 4 seasons.
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  41. And this is the catch for me. Gibson *thankfully* improved and gave the Twins one very nice season in 2018 but being 12% below league average while approaching 30 years old did not instill confidence in anyone to open 2017. And not only was he 12% below league average for his career - which wasn't an insignificant number of innings at that point - but in 2016 he was 17% below league average. At that point, is Dobnak's lack of innings and relative youth to 2016 Gibson a plus or a minus? I don't know, that can be argued either way but that's not what we're talking about here... we're talking about whether anyone was confident in Gibson being a rotation fixture after 2016 and that answer was unequivocally "no". So now we're down to Ervin Santana, who was a legitimately solid MLB starter but was also paid as such and was entering his mid-30s. Essentially, he was Kenta Maeda without the upside and paid *a lot* more, to boot.
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  42. You "going by what you see" and not "some math nerd numbers" is exactly why we have the "math nerd numbers." When your assessment is that Arraez "too often watches a third strike go by" and he is in the 99th percentile for K% in all of MLB you are literally proving the point that just going by your biased eyes is an awful strategy. You're complaining that a guy who strikes out less than all but 3 guys in baseball let's too many third strikes go by (Arraez strikes out in 10.2% of his ABs, Brantley 10.1, Fletcher 9.2, and Newman 7.3 are the only guys better in all of baseball. Sorry for being so nerdy). That's your complaint right now.
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  43. If there is any one thing I would want to fire these two for it's this. Over and over and over again we invest in Zimmer's pet projects and over and over and over again he sits them on the bench. If you need three years to develop dudes, make those picks in the 3rd and 4th round. The early rounds should be for guys impacting by the end of their first season.
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  44. Agreed. A batted ball traveling at 100 miles per hour goes 146 feet per second. In front of the 60’6” rubber, Ryan had less than half a second to react and move his hand. sure, drills and such… he can do things, just like hitters, but yeah, hard to find fault.
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  45. You did not sell me on why he would fix SS. One of worst defenders and subpar hitter. Sure he may get better hitting like he did when first came up, but defense is rarely something that changes with teams, so I would not expect an uptick in that area.
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  46. This is the wrong way to look at it, unfortunately. More Fortune 500 companies doesn't mean they pay more for advertising space because advertising pricing ultimately comes down to audience numbers. Not only do the Twins have, at most, a mid-market size of audience, that audience shuns cable television in greater numbers than other markets (going from older data from memory, I cannot find recent numbers). And that's where the money is, cable television. And the Twins are working at a disadvantage there even compared to most other comparable markets, much less larger markets like Houston, NYC, or San Francisco.
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  47. I think the Twins still believe in Royce Lewis as the starter for several years but probably want to get him some time in AAA next season since he's coming back from a lost season. There is a cheap, glove-first SS option who will be available as a free agent. Freddy Galvis has been as productive as Simmons with a much smaller paycheck.
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  48. See....I only see one "extreme" being argued completely devoid of fact and that's your stance. Certainly, the Ryan regime left the FO Berrios and Santana. There were one or two other guys that occupied spots (as in, they weren't all that good) or were moved to the bullpen and became contributors, but largely the staff was not good. This is born out by facts and statistics. Your argument is not. You're right that the new guys inherited some nice bats, but they supplemented them well also. Pitching? That required a nearly total makeover to get to where the team was in 2019 and 2020. I don't understand why you and others continue to try and put lipstick on the pig that is Terry Ryan's pitching farm system circa 2017. There is no evidence to sustain that point of view. To that point: do you realize you haven't made a sustained statistic, metric, or evidential argument yet in this thread? The next time you do, will be the first time in this thread. The closest I've found is quoting prospect rankings. Meanwhile, the people that are saying "look, there were a few guys, but mostly nobody" continue to site ACTUAL DATA to support them. And have done so for pages while you and others employ almost none. I would suggest to you that the extreme is the edge you're standing on. Perhaps if you'd come back from that ledge you'd see there could be agreement. But anyone looking at the numbers is going to tell you that you're wrong if you're going to argue 2017 had a bountiful pitching harvest just waiting for the new guys. There isn't room to compromise with a view that has no factual merit whatsoever. Soften your stance a bit and then maybe that could change.
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  49. The guy who only cites batting average to defend players is now going to rag on Arraez? I....I mean....Wha?
    2 points
  50. Wow, lots of angst here--you said the current pitching staff is in worse shape than in 2017 when Falvine took over. That's not an argument I'm attempting to make, those are your own words. The 2021 Twins pitching has been, relative to the league, better in 2021 than for the entirety of the SIX YEAR 2011-2016 timeframe, and better than all but one of those individual seasons. You can argue that the future pitching staff for 2017 was better than the future pitching staff is for 2021, but I also think that's off. Santana--was 34 in 2017, and had just put up a FIP- only 10% better than 32 year old "nearly cooked" Pineda has this year. In 2017, his FIP- was 101, and he spent 3 years not pitching/awful before somehow rebounding this year. That last part is hindsight, but it demonstrates the point--34 year old good-not-great starters should not be counted on for more than the next season--not a great future asset. Gibson--was 29 in 2017, and had 3 straight years of 25-30 starts, only once below 100 on FIP-, and that was at 97. Not a great future asset, and in fact, he didn't start to look good until 2018 (read--after Falvine had been able to work with him) Berrios--turned 23 in 2017, and had just finished a season where he put up a FIP- of 144 (for what it's worth, Shoemaker's FIP- this year was 153). Obviously there was still plenty of promise there given his age and lack of experience, but he also struck out only 7.5/9 in 2016, while walking 5.4/9. An uncertain future asset at that point, and given his immediate improvement in both k and bb rate once Falvine came on board, are we really so sure they shouldn't get some credit for helping Jose take the next step? Mejia--had 2 IP in MLB in 2016. Nice track record in the minors, and reason for hope, but let's not pretend he was locked in as a quality starting option. If you're going to include Mejia as a positive for 2017, then you have to include Duran, Balazovic, Winder, SWR, and Strotman for 2021 as well. Santiago--had a 125 FIP- in 2016; J.A. Happ in 2021 is at 126. Are you saying a 29 year old who essentially replicated J.A. Happ's 2021 season was a quality piece moving forward? Colon--was added halfway through 2017, by Falvine. Duffey--was still a full-time starter, and had a 110 FIP-. As such, he was not a potential good piece for the bullpen, any more than any generic starting pitcher is a potential good piece for a bullpen. Pressly, Rogers, and Kintzler--all three were good not great (87, 82, and 83 FIP-. 2021 Caleb Thielbar has an 82 FIP-). Rogers didn't become what he is until 2018 (read--after Falvine had been able to work with him). Belisle--was signed in free agency prior to the 2017 season, by Falvine. So of the 11 pitchers you mentioned, 2 were actually acquired by Falvine, 1 was a completely unproven minor leaguer, 3 were young starters who hadn't established themselves yet, 1 was a thoroughly mediocre vet, 1 was a solid but old vet, and 3 were good-not-great bullpen options. This idea that Falvine was handed the makings of a championship staff is ludicrous--the staff improved because Falvine helped them improve. We're also not worse off now than in 2017, given the $40m-$60M available to spend this offseason, the passel of starters coming up through the system at AA or above, and the collection of potential relief options under team control for next year (Rogers, Gant, Farrell, and Coulombe all have FIP- better than the PRK trio in 2016, with Thielbar, Duffey, and Stashak better than Pressly).
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