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  1. This could also be an attempt to drive up the trade value of these guys. Though, if true, I'd take it as a good sign that they intend to be competitive next season.
    7 points
  2. Had the Twins offense scored 6 runs they would have lost. There can be plenty of blame to go around.
    6 points
  3. Preface It's often said that you can't spell "Twins" without "win" but that's not strictly true, if you spell "Twins" incorrectly. And doing something incorrectly would be a fitting tribute to the 2021 Twins. Some also say the 2021 Twins are hapless. That's not true either -- we have one of the only two Happs in major league history. In that sense, we could be considered "Happful". His full name is James Anthony Happ but he famously goes by J.A., prounounced "Jay". If I was his coach, or I played one on TV, I'd ask him to try going by "Ja" like rapper and "The Fast and the Furious" actor Ja Rule, or like the Rastafarian god "Jah" -- like a new pitch grip, it just might extend his career by a few more years. (The other Happ in MLB is the Cubs' Ian Edward, or I.E. Happ. But only one Happ actually goes by his initials, i.e. J.A. Happ.) Happ (ours), with his grey beard, would even be the perfect candidate to star in a topical modern reboot of an old baseball movie, 1949's "It Happens Every Spring" (which could be stylized "It HAPPens Every Spring"): In the original film, a scientist discovers a substance which, when applied to baseballs, makes them impossible to hit with a wood bat. The scientist uses his discovery to become a successful major league pitcher, until his secret is outed by Philadelphia Athletics third baseman Josiah Donaldson. With the substance no longer available, Josiah hits a home run off of the scientist/pitcher, and radio broadcasts pick up his controversial "can't repel wood anymore" exclamation on the field. In the movie's climax, Josiah and the scientist/pitcher grapple with each other on a train platform after the game (although I won't spoil the ending for you, primarily because I don't actually remember it and none of this may actually happen in the movie). Minnesota (39-52, 4th place, 16 GB) Starting pitcher: J.A. "i.e., Not I.E." Happ, LHP, 5-4, 5.90 ERA Detroit (42-51, 3rd place, 14 GB) Starting pitcher: Wily "Willy Not Wile E." Peralta, RHP, 2-1, 2.08 ERA I may not be around to post lineups. (I tried to look up projected lineups for the Twins-Tigers game, and now Google thinks I have a gambling problem.) If someone else can post the lineups when they become available, it would be much appreciated.
    5 points
  4. What scares me is that they might decide to bring Shoemaker back. Trade him quick now that he has two good AAA games.
    5 points
  5. I realize this is a Twins site, but lost in the gloom is a good baseball play, just not by the Twins. Schoop running all the way, not dogging it, on a game endiing ball with an expected .000 hit possibility. Good baseball.
    5 points
  6. The Twins have many decisions to make as to how they will fill the 40 man roster in 2022. Assuming they plan on fielding a competitive team in 2022, they will need to balance the number of core pieces, prospects to protect, and new free agent additions. I've parsed out the Twins' current 40 man roster into categories below: First we have the "locks" - 15 players who will likely be back barring a trade, and another 5 prospects who are unlikely to lose their spot. You could consider Dobnak and Colina are on the fringe, but Randy's contract and Edwar's potential to help our bad bullpen should keep them on the team. I've then sorted the rest into a few other categories - Potentially Gone has players who may leave due to contract reasons. I see Sano and Kepler as possible trade options over the winter, and Thielbar might get moved at the trade deadline. Likely Gone is fairly obvious - Cruz could be retained, but they might choose to wait until January/February because MLB free agency is slow as heck. Fringe Veteran categorizes players who have played well enough to warrant consideration to be retained on the 40 man, but could also be DFA'd without being a big deal. Middling Prospect entails 1st-3rd year players who are in danger of losing their spots. Fringe Prospect has a few guys who will likely be DFA'd and make it through waivers. Of course, then we've got the Rule 5 Prospects. The first 5 listed should be shoo-ins, but the Less Notable list should create some debate as to who is worth protecting. I also call it the Baddoo List since it includes debatable additions that are talented enough to possibly make an impact in the majors. Akil Baddoo is going to haunt our Rule 5 articles for years to come. I'd like to see how you guys would fill your 40 man rosters. You can use my chart above, but don't forget there are other players in the minors who could be added at some point too. Here is a template with some initial suggestions: #1-20: My aforementioned locks #21-27: OF Max Kepler, UTL Nick Gordon, RP Cody Stashak, C Ben Rortvedt, OF Rob Refsnyder, SP Lewis Thorpe, SP Charlie Barnes #28-35: SS Royce Lewis, 3B Jose Miranda, SP Josh Winder, SP Blayne Enlow, SP Cole Sands, SS Jermaine Palacios, RP Jovani Moran, RP Yennier Cano (not Rule 5 eligible, but I want to see him pitch in 2021) #36-40 : Spots kept open for free agents / players or prospects acquired in deadline trades Now it's your turn, give it a shot!
    4 points
  7. If I was to hazard a guess it would have something to do with Donaldson being in his stance ready for the pitch and Arraez is staring off into the outfield stands, facing away from the plate unable to see what was happening. Then, Arraez started moving around in Donaldson's line of sight to pick up the pitch. Arraez wasn't in position, he wasn't ready and he was distracting Donaldson. Feels pretty disrespectful to me. I don't think it's any big deal. More of just a "Come on, man! Get your head in the game!" The dugout conversation looked like a no biggie to me.
    4 points
  8. I wish I could say getting swept by the Tigers has been the low point of this season, but there has been too much competition for that dubious honor.
    4 points
  9. I'd rather he not. I'd prefer him to decline the assignment and become a free agent. I don't know from whom, but Shoemaker is just stealing innings from someone that might actually help the big league club in the future. Happ joining him only makes it worse.
    4 points
  10. Whatever happens, they just need to be decisive and they need to know EXACTLY the expected outcomes for these players based on their actions or inactions. If they keep Berrios, they need to know that they can do the Sevarino/McCullers extension with him this winter. If the opposite is true, they need to know that. For certain. If Buxton rejects their deal, they need to know specifically what he wants. No need for ultimatums; a handshake and a “sorry this didn’t work out” is just fine. Frankly, the pussyfooting that goes with MLB contract negotiations from both parties is nauseating. Get to the point and stop being cute.
    4 points
  11. 4 points
  12. If the Twins are going to make a run for it next year, They should offer Nelson a 1 year contract extension too. While I know father time will catch up to him, he isn't slowing down much if at all. I wonder if he would sign a 1 year 15 million extension now and avoid the mess in the offseason.
    3 points
  13. It looked like Happ might be moved for salary relief only but after this, hard to seen even that happening.
    3 points
  14. An Austrian company that makes portable stair climbers.
    3 points
  15. Refer to the Carol Burnett show post.
    3 points
  16. I hope the Twins front office can finally give up on the hope of Happ recovering any trade value. It's been obvious for a while that he has been terrible and continues to be terrible. I guess waiting another couple of weeks to release him won't kill the team, but there doesn't seem to be any point.
    3 points
  17. Honestly, ready for Vikings football. At least they only disappoint me once a week. This amalgamation of players just makes me angry
    3 points
  18. 3 points
  19. Over a 7-year career ending in 1979, Twins DH Craig Kusick came to the plate 1461 times, compiling an unremarkable slash line of .235/.342/.392. Kusick may have had a briefer stay in the bigs, however, if it was not for his uncanny ability to hit Frank Tanana of the California Angels who was the most intimidating strikeout pitcher in the American League not named Nolan Ryan or Vida Blue. Kusick ended up facing Tanana more than any other pitcher over his career – 59 times - which was about 4% of all his plate appearances. In those at-bats, Kusick went 16 for 42 (.381) drawing a Bonds-like 16 walks for a .542 on-base percentage. He also took Tanana deep 4 times in those 42 at-bats and drove in 11 runs. Three of those home runs came in consecutive games against Tanana in 1976, after which Tanana walked Kusick 7 times in the next 5 times they met – twice intentionally. While Kusick was certainly not a Twins great, his inextricable linking to Tanana suggests an interesting related topic. Thanks to the Batter-vs-Pitcher data on Baseball Reference we can now ask and answer who were the opposing players Twins greats faced the most and who owned whom? * * * * * * * * * For the first "Who Owned Whom?" we look at a recent Twins great, Joe Mauer. Over his 15-year career, Mauer played in 1858 games and had 7960 plate appearances. He batted .306, had an on-base average of .388, slugged .439 with 143 home runs, scored 1018 runs and drove in 939. His most frequent opposing pitcher over his career was none other than Detroit’s Justin Verlander who faced off against Joe in 97 plate appearances. Verlander, who has a career .228 batting average-against and OPS-against of .652, was definitely "owned" by Mauer as Joe finished with a slash line of .317/.423/.537 on 26 for 82 hitting with 15 walks. The 26 hits are the most by Mauer against any pitcher and the first one came in his first at-bat against Verlander in the second game of a Saturday double header versus Detroit on July 23rd, 2005 as Joe hit an 0-2 pitch deep to left field in Detroit for an RBI double. The other pitchers Joe faced frequently were Rick Porcello –who fared better than his Tigers teammate - (75 plate appearances, .243/.293/.329) and the unfortunate John Danks of the White Sox. (71 plate appearances, .381/.451/.476) Coincidentally (or not), Danks is the only pitcher to have beaned Mauer more than once. CC Sabathia is the pitcher that struck Joe out the most -17 Ks in 52 plate appearances - and, along with another lefty, Mark Buehrle, most “owned” Joe. Joe only managed .196/.269/.239 against Sabathia and .197/209/.303 against Buehrle. Sabathia was also the first pitcher Mauer faced in the big leagues in his debut versus Cleveland in the Season Opener at the Metrodome on April 5th, 2004. Mauer, batting 8th, walked on 4 pitches against Sabathia in the 3rd and struck out swinging on a full count in the 5th. Sabathia pitched through the 7th and left with a 4-0 lead. The Twins rallied to tie the game, 4-4, in the 8th inning and Mauer's first big league hit would come on a single to center off Rafael Betancourt leading off the 9th. The game went to extra innings and Mauer got his second hit on a one-out, one-on single to right in the 11th off Chad Durbin, moving Nick Punto (running for Matt LeCroy who had walked) to third. After a Christian Guzman strikeout, Shannon Stewart lifted a Durbin fly ball deep to LF for a game-winning 3-run homer, bringing in Mauer and Punto and blowing 49,584 Metrodome fans from the exits hoarse and happy. What a memorable game to start a career! Watch for another installment of "Who Owned Whom" coming soon.
    2 points
  20. While I'd probably look to move Berríos and Rogers, this is actually a pretty positive sign for the fanbase. I doubt they'd hold onto these players if ownership was breathing down their necks to cut payroll. Does this make it more likely the Twins maintain a semi-competitive payroll in 2022? https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/twins-reportedly-disinclined-to-trade-players-controllable-beyond-2021.html
    2 points
  21. Thorpe is iffy since he's out of options, but I still think there is something there if they commit to moving him to the pen. Stashak had two quality seasons before looking bad this year, and still had good peripherals. I think if they DFA him, he definitely resurfaces with another team and we look dumb (see Littell, others). I assume we will know a lot more about Rooker after seeing many ABs in August and September and we can make a more informed decision then. Good point, I see them as re-sign candidates, but it does make more sense to do that once the Rule 5 draft has passed. I could see them keeping one of Refsnyder or Garlick as the RH OF, though they could also look to free agency to find that guy.. Agreed on all those. Also, Derek Law should be on the Likely Gone list.
    2 points
  22. Maybe, but I still don't want to be carrying a 34 year old, washed up player at AAA that is only there because he made it abundantly clear that he couldn't help the big league club now, let alone an additional 38 year old. And neither will help the club in the future.
    2 points
  23. I was hoping for either wins or clarity as we approach the trade deadline. Guess I'm getting the latter. No false hopes being raised!
    2 points
  24. Because the Twins want to make Sano look like Ted Williams? Even their marketing people have probably figured out that Sano's not gonna do it, and there's still that warehouse full of Sano bobbleheads to give away...
    2 points
  25. I admire the Twins' decision to wear uniforms today. It lends some much-needed credibility to the theory that they're at work and doing their jobs, rather than just some dudes who know each other from school and get a game together on weekends sometimes.
    2 points
  26. Truthfully, that hope was dashed long ago
    2 points
  27. I can see Billy grabbing the ball from a pitcher and kicking him in the butt as he walked off the mound.
    2 points
  28. There's rough and then there's rough. It's one thing to say that once contention for the post-season is out the window, it doesn't matter how many losses there are. But finishing strong versus finishing in abject failure could be the difference in millions of dollars of season-ticket sales during the coming off-season. The FO has to take many things into account besides just roster management to avoid a death-spiral on a par with Pittsburgh and Baltimore. Finishing with 90 losses is rough but finishing with 100+ is rougher.
    2 points
  29. If the Twins want to at least pretend they're putting an MLB team on the field, they've got to demote either Jeffers or Rortvedt. You can't have two guys each hitting .175 out there when you've got Astudillo sitting in St. Paul. Jeffers isn't in a slump. He was spoonfed a platoon role to start the season and then had the starting role giftwraped after Garver went down. He's done absolutely nothing to show that he can play at this level.
    2 points
  30. Are there? I honestly don't know what they would be. I agree with the rest of what you said. It does just make the amount of the boring less rather than address the issue of time of game. Hockey was able to shorten their games that were starting to drift into the 245-3 hour mark without shortening the time of the game with things like no line changes on icings and rules for lining up quickly on faceoffs. It's quite rare for an MHL game to go past 2:30 now.
    2 points
  31. The Braves find themselves in a precarious position after losing one of the game’s young superstars, Ronald Acuna, to a season-ending injury right before the All-Star break. They may end up tempted to move some of their pending free agents as the month comes to a close. But with only a handful of games separating them from the East-leading Mets, they are currently one of the few teams in baseball already aggressively buying. What’s Their Situation? Atlanta is the three-time defending division champs and came one game short of the World Series last year. They currently find themselves behind the Mets and neck-and-neck with the Phillies. Their odds to win the division, though, trail only New York, according to Vegas Insider. What Do They Need? Down all three outfield starters from Opening Day, the Braves would need to start there. Acuna is out for the season (at least), Marcell Ozuna’s status in society needs to be resolved before a Major League team even considers playing him again and Christian Pache, recovered from injury, is back in the minor leagues after struggling. The Braves started out their second half by acquiring Joc Pederson from the Cubs. Pederson fills a spot for this season, but has a hefty mutual option for next year that will likely lead to the Braves choosing to let Pederson head to free agency Looking ahead, you can’t confidently place a single player in their 2022 Opening Day outfield. The pitching staff is in pretty good shape. While it’s possible they add some reinforcements, the priority for the Braves - if they choose to add - is the outfield. Which Twins Are the Best Fit? Max Kepler, under contract for around $20 million and three more seasons after this one, is the most obvious fit. He’s both versatile and affordable and could be viewed as expendable with the emergence of Alex Kirilloff and Trevor Larnach. In 2019, Austin Riley, currently manning third base for the Braves, primarily played left field. The reason: Josh Donaldson. Donaldson had a great year (124 OPS+) and used it to sucker a team into committing at least $90 million to him. The Braves didn’t want to commit the years and cash to Donaldson in free agency, so it would require the Twins to kick in a large amount of money. Hansel Robles could be a cheap bullpen option for any team looking to make a bullpen upgrade. Especially if that team isn’t sure where it’s going to stand in August. Jose Berrios and Taylor Rogers could help out any team who plans to compete in 2022, though if the Twins were motivated to move them, that market would probably grow in the off-season. Who Could The Twins Get Back? Kyle Muller, RHP, 23yo - Muller is MLB-ready and has spent time both with the Braves and at AAA. He may not project as more than a mid- to late-rotation contributor if he can’t bring his walk rate down. But at 23, Muller still has upside. Freddy Tarnok, RHP, 22yo - Tarnok is a prospect who comes with both a high-ceiling and a low-floor. The fastball that nearly reaches triple-digits is something to like. His slider and changeup are still works in progress. If both improve, you have a starter with a lot of potential. If neither become a usable pitch, you likely end up with someone who never cracks the big-league roster. Ambioris Tavarez, SS, 17yo - The Twins have added a number of shortstops to their system over the last ten years, yet there is no obvious answer to the question, “Who is the Twins shortstop of the future?” Tavarez has yet to make his professional debut. But if the Twins are building for the future, adding another shortstop would make sense. View full article
    2 points
  32. I think that is the smart play and I think most of the board wants both players extended, the concern was can the Twins get it done and if not shouldn't they be trying to maximize the trade value those players posses. Yes if they trade those players right now they should be asking for the moon. If someone wants to desperately make a move and overpay then sure go for it. Otherwise keeping them gives them the best option to do well next year unless of course Buxton is hurt all of next year too. However, If they lose both players for draft comp or a deadline move next year I think they will have missed on a valuable opportunity to supplement their 2nd wave that is just coming up.
    2 points
  33. I agree. Maybe they should put a real zombie on second and give him 7 innings to shuffle home. If he touches the plate before the batting team scores a run the fielding team gets the win. However, if the batting team takes the zombie's head off with a line drive while he's shuffling between second and third, they not only get the win, they get a free set of steak knives without having to buy another set for $19.99 and they get to choose between moving up one notch on next season's baseball draft or using one of their own players as homeplate umpire for their next home game. Makes as much sense as the "current incarnation" and I bet the fans could really get into it.
    2 points
  34. They don't really contradict each other much, if at all. From Rosenthal: "Buxton, 27, likely will be dealt if he rejects the proposal, if not by the July 30 trade deadline — he currently is on the injured list with a fractured left hand — then this offseason." "But if Buxton rejects the Twins’ extension, the team likely would get a better return for him in the offseason, particularly if he plays in the final two months the way he did in the first five weeks." From MLBTR on Olney: "That’s not to say Minnesota’s cutting off talks on longer-term assets entirely, but it casts increasing doubt about the likelihood of stars like Byron Buxton and José Berríos — both of whom are controllable next season via arbitration — changing uniforms within the next couple weeks." Olney doesn't think they'll be dealt at the deadline, Rosenthal suggests if an extension cannot be agreed upon, either/both could be dealt in the offseason.
    2 points
  35. So Rosenthal and Olney both have reports that almost completely contradict one another? But, everything on the internet, especially from a news/media member has to be true right? Right? Is that the sky falling? But seriously, I have no doubt the Twins are approaching Buxton, and then almost assuredly Berrios, with long term extensions. And I have no doubt they have zero intention of trading anyone until next season barring a massive return haul as reported in the Olney piece. And the public "take it or leave it" comments toward Buxton were just speculative, trolling trash. Nobody negotiates that way, especially publicly. I'd day this piece is on point with some basic truths from the first, there is an offer made to Buxton.
    2 points
  36. The trades at the trade deadline will determine much about the longterm role played by Luis Arraez. For example, think about what happens if Josh Donaldson is traded (with Arraez and Jose Miranda as longterm options at 3B). . Nevertheless, despite any future developments Polanco should stay here and remain longterm at 2B. Shortstop is a position the Twins will need to address with another player, Royce Lewis or another free agent. Frankly, I’d like to see Wander Javier succeed just so the organist can play the stupid “Happy Wanderer” song when he hits a home run or makes another great play - the crowd then can belt out “Valderi, Valdera, valder- ra-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha …”.
    2 points
  37. Laudner was very disconcerted with Rocco's take on 7 inning games, and I appreciated his comment. Bothered me a lot. I've held my fire on Rocco for the most part. His comment on his love of the 7 innings is bothersome.
    2 points
  38. Fun and interesting read! Thanks!
    2 points
  39. ahh ... things to be hopeful about? maybe? a little? (don't want to get too hopeful because it's too far a distance a to fall)
    2 points
  40. I'm all for getting Gordon reps, even in CF, but with Celestino on the bench and the 2 spot not up for another couple of innings, it's certainly a questionable decision in that spot.
    2 points
  41. It is understandable that Gordon doesn’t make the play due to his lack of experience in CF. Less understandable is that the Twins feel he was the best option to be out there in the first place.
    2 points
  42. If this is the case, i certainly hope we grab the Mauer sized pen to make something happen. I do feel that how we deal with Maeda's contract has some baring on if we can negotiate incentives laden contract in good faith. And yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if there is still a sour taste in Bixton's mouth over how 2018 played out. I also think that Rocco as manager could go a ways to helping make this work. Otherwise, i am grateful for the report, but won't conclude it means anything is going to happen. The caution that keeps us from the Mauer sized offer likely will also keep other teams from meeting our ask in a trade. And yeah, who knows how the collective bargaining will play out?
    2 points
  43. See, saying "quick hook" implies that Baldelli is acting on impulse. Sparky Anderson had a notorious "quick hook." Baldelli is the exact opposite in my view - I imagine he pegged 70 pitches as his arbitrary "pitch limit" (saying nothing of the fact that Barnes pitched 90+ in his last AAA start), and he decided to pull the plug when there was a righty/lefty matchup that the "numbers" said it's best to avoid such a matchup. It was entirely planned, and that's what makes it so pathetic. You're dealing with professional athletes in the physical prime of their lives, getting babied to an obscene degree. Ugh. The drama of the starting pitcher battling their way through 9 innings was one of the top-5 elements of dramatic action in baseball up until about 6 years ago. Analytics have purposefully killed that bit of drama in favor of parades of bullpen arms - the playoffs is nearly unwatchable now because of this. Yes, very "data-driven," "new-school," "smart," and "progressive" - entirely at the cost of entertainment and drama. It's sickening. I've set the introduction of robot umps as my point of no return for following baseball, but frankly I don't know if I'll make it another year or two. Game is a shell of its former self, completely caved to entertainment-sapping technocrats. Really, really sad.
    2 points
  44. "A ghost from Kenta Maeda’s last start came back to haunt him, as he failed to retire the leadoff hitter, issuing a walk." A walk that was a missed called strike three. A perfect pitch. One that the batter can't make himself swing at, and was right on the bottom corner of the zone. That would have been 3 outs before the hit, HBP, and the triple. That would have changed quite a bit.
    2 points
  45. It is going to be rough the rest of the way no matter who we put in the lineup
    2 points
  46. Couldn't help noticing that all our hits in game 2 were from guys who might be gone by the end of the month, with the exception of Polanco, while all the o-fers were guys discussed to be the future/young core, with the exception of Kepler. Going with the kids could be rough the rest of the way.
    2 points
  47. It would have been nice to see Barnes pitch longer, but the Twins have a microprocessor with bent pins for a manager. Pulling a rookie pitcher at that point shows a total lack of confidence, which is a terrible message to send, regardless of what your f$#king spreadsheet says.
    2 points
  48. While I would agree our self scouting failures have been big missed opportunities (Anderson, Wade, etc.) I can hardly fault the team for not protecting Baddoo in the Rule 5 draft. Struggled at High A ball in 2019 and had TJ. No play time last year. Just shrug your shoulders at that one. I also hate how much people overrate things like Escobar or Pressly in those trades. Escobar was traded from a non playoff team (with 0 additional years of control!) for what is now one of our global top 100 pitching prospects. Pressly refused to make the changes the Twins asked him to do but did so once Houston traded for him. 1.5 years of him for 6-7 years of Alcala and Celestino. I've would do both of those trades again in a second and so should every other Twins fan. Any production they have AFTER they sign extensions SHOULD NOT be counted as part of their production after they are traded.
    2 points
  49. It's not that dire. There are other things to live for! Your family loves you!
    2 points
  50. Based on our offensive numbers against the rest of the league, we should keep the band together. Twins rank in the top 10 in BA, OPS, and HR, top 15 in nearly every other offensive category - 21st in SO though, which surprised me. The team has hit very well considering all the young guys we've had to play due to injuries and other circumstances. This season is once again a result not investing into quality pitching. We try too hard to fill our rotation and BP with bounce-back candidates or possible diamonds in the rough. My thought is to work hard to extend Berrios and Buxton. We won't get enough in return (IMO) to make it worthwhile. Invest heavily into quality FA arms in the off-season. Overpay if we have to, it's just money (easy for me to say). We are a much better team than our record reflects at the moment. I see no reason to sell now. If we're in the same position one year from now, become sellers then.
    2 points
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