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  1. Ok boys, listen up. You won a game yesterday. You won a game today, that's two in a row. You win tomorrow...that's called a winning streak.
    7 points
  2. Any game that Dobnak pitches that we win is a big deal. Any game that Dobnak AND Colome pitch and we win is A REAL BIG DEAL.
    4 points
  3. "Paging Mr. Serling, Mr. Rod Serling...you're wanted in the Twlight Room." The Twins have won 3 In a row and have generally been playing much better the past few weeks, even with a few bad losses. They're also get healthy again. Now, it's far too late for any 2/3 of a season "back in contention" miracle, but what a possible .500 finish while building confidence and momentum for 2022? And how about continuing to get experience for Jefffers, Rotvedt, Kirilloff, Larnach, Gordon, Alcala, Dobber, Ober and anyone else we haven't seen yet but will? Three quick thoughts: 1] Despite some HR issues, including the one he gave up Friday night, Alcala is gaining trust and growing up right in front of us as a legitimate BP option. 2] I think you are either a believer in Dobnak that he can be a reliable back of the rotation bulldog who will always take the ball every 5th day and give you a solid chance...eventually...OR, you just aren't a fan. Service time-wise, I believe he just lost rookie status. But he still only has around 120IP in his young career and has shown stretches/games of being quite good. He gets a little more consistent I like him at the back of the rotation. 3] Except for 2020 and a few appearances early this year, Robles has been a fine RP. And he's still 30yo until August 13th. What is his future worth to the Twins? Is he more valuable being traded for an A level prospect or re-signed for 2022? Personally, I'm in favor of keeping him for next season. FINAL NOTE: I have really enjoyed listening to Perkins in the booth the past couple of games and would enjoy hearing him more.
    4 points
  4. Assuming no additional injuries (BIG assumption), it will be interesting to see what the Twins do when Garlick, Refsnyder (both in the next week or so) and Cave (possibly mid July) are healthy enough to play again. I would like to see Gordon, Kirilloff and Larnach stay on the big league roster.
    4 points
  5. No way they are giving up on Sano. Its a lost year. They are not flushing that money. Plus, stranger things have happened than Sano finding his 2019 form.
    4 points
  6. Optioning Astudillo? Has all the makings of another 30 year curse.
    4 points
  7. I was glad to see Dobnak had a nice outing today! However, I still think Dobnak is a long reliever / 5th or spot starter, at best. Ever play Yahtzee? Building the pitching staff around the Dobnak extension is, to me, kind of like using the 1s, 2s, or Chance category on the first roll. Not too bad maybe, but you still haven’t done the hard stuff yet.
    3 points
  8. Hold the trade phones just a few more days. Second City's South Side club has just dropped three in a row. 102 games left and there's just the teensiest crack of daylight peeking through.
    3 points
  9. Today could be a real "nail biter".
    3 points
  10. lets just hope its a case of getting all the bad luck out of the way in one season.
    3 points
  11. Pick the right guy to trade away... Grade: A. Pick a reasonable guy to try to develop... Grade: C-, based on results this year. Then punt it away by gambling that no bottom-feeder team would desire a guy with minor league options for 2021 and 2022, a guy you yourself had thought was promising? Grade: F. Shaking my head.
    3 points
  12. Second, for whatever reason for all of the mistakes that were made this offseason, Shaun Anderson (who has minor league options and is 26 years old) is the first addition the front office has admitted failure on by placing him on waivers. Meanwhile J.A. Happ, Matt Shoemaker and Alexander Colomé continue to “eat innings” with absolutely zero chance of having any future on this team beyond 2021. It’s simply baffling. I think it's more than fair to ask what the rationale behind this decision is. The FO took a fringe 40 man player, whose ceiling is a utility OFer and swapped him for a position of need that they thought they could straighten out. It failed, but I'm ok with that swap. I don't think the Twins have been hurt in either the short or long term by playing who they have in the OF. I don't think the move is worthy of much hand wringing. Congrats to Wade on a good month.
    3 points
  13. I think if 5/$80 would get it done, it would already be done.
    3 points
  14. Agree with Rosterman on how the Twins play the youngsters as opposed to the vets. I would also like to see more of Gordon who has the positional flexibility to be a strong super utility option now that he has shown some aptitude for playing in CF.
    2 points
  15. Doc: Other than your final note ( I didn't watch game on FSN) so I have no opinion on Perkins, I agree with your comments. I really believe that Alcala has a strong future as a late inning option in our bullpen. To me, he has the demeanor/disposition you need from a closer. What he doesn't have at this point to be trusted in that role is an effective 3rd pitch, namely a changeup. Other than some command issues, I like what I've seen from Robles as he's shown he's much more like the effective pitcher he was in 2019 rather than the gas can he was with Halos last year. As for Dobnak, I'm somewhere in the middle on him. I think he's most effective as a starter. Seems to me his poor performance this season may be attributed to the fact that he's been yanked around without having any defined role. Saying that, I can understand those that argue Dobnak must make that mental adjustment as well as showing he can effectively command his pitches. When he does what he did today, he can be a viable option for next season---joining Berrios and Maeda. Count me NOT in the crowd that is ready to trade Berrios. That doesn't mean you don't listen to offers at the trade deadline, but he's shown BY FAR he's the most reliable SP we've had over the past 3 seasons. Where many may disagree with me is filling out the remainder of the starting rotation next season. Im DONE with dumpster dives for the likes of Shoemaker, Happ and countless others over the past many years. Time to take the kid gloves off and give Duran, Winder and Balazovic the chance to compete in ST for 2 rotation slots for 2022. I can't believe Winder has anything left to prove at AA Wichita. Another excellent outing last night. Balazovic will take some more time to gain strength as he's only made 3 starts. His outing this week, which I witnessed in person, was quite impressive. Don't have as much to offer about Duran, but from comments I've seen----he just needs to get consistency with his command. Will be interesting to see what trades FO will make over the next 6 weeks. Got to believe that Cruz and Pineda (if healthy) are at top of list, which could bring some value back. If Donaldson can get back into lineup and show production he could also be moved if mgmt is willing to kick in some $$$. Appears that SF and Milwaukee could be possible sights for JD.
    2 points
  16. How nice - I will take this as a fathers day present or a fans day present - whichever you like.
    2 points
  17. The Rangers entertain the Twins in Texas in the middle game of a three game set. Buxton is back! La Tortuga is gone (for now), but not forgotten. Dobnak gets one last chance to show he can be in the rotation. Play ball. Pitchers: PLAYER W-L ERA WHIP IP H K BB HR R. Dobnak 1-6 8.38 1.73 38.2 56 24 11 10 K. Allard 2-2 2.91 1.12 34.0 29 37 9 4 Twins: J. Polanco 2B 0-0 0 0 0 .254 TODAY'S AT BATSFull Player Profile No at bats in this game B. Buxton CF 0-0 0 0 0 .370 N. Cruz DH 0-0 0 0 0 .300 T. Larnach LF 0-0 0 0 0 .259 R. Jeffers C 0-0 0 0 0 .221 M. Sano 1B 0-0 0 0 0 .179 M. Kepler RF 0-0 0 0 0 .204 A. Simmons SS 0-0 0 0 0 .241 L. Arraez 3B 0-0 0 0 0 .273 Rangers: HITTERS H-AB R RBI BB AVG I. Kiner-Falefa SS 0-0 0 0 0 .288 N. Lowe 1B 0-0 0 0 0 .242 A. Garcia CF 0-0 0 0 0 .273 J. Gallo RF 0-0 0 0 0 .218 N. Solak 2B 0-0 0 0 0 .233 W. Calhoun DH 0-0 0 0 0 .249 E. White LF 0-0 0 0 0 .169 J. Heim C 0-0 0 0 0 .195 C. Culberson 3B 0-0 0 0 0 .218
    2 points
  18. 2 points
  19. Kirilloff should be playing 1st. I don't mind Kepler playing, it's Sano that is not needed now.
    2 points
  20. good afternoon, everyone. Let's go Twins!
    2 points
  21. Shoemaker will be gone soon enough, give it some time.
    2 points
  22. This is a reasonable offer in 2008.
    2 points
  23. I’ve been waiting all season to use this quote except the team refuses to, you know, win any games.
    2 points
  24. Thanks for the report Allen. Watched most of the Wichita game last night. Have been saying for the past couple outings that Balazovic just looks like a top of the line major league starter. After watching Winder last night, got the same feeling. Really liked how he worked himself out of a couple sticky situations. Springfield had several stolen bases and a bunt single against the shift to put runners in scoring position. Other than the one kid stealing home, he seemed to be in control of the situation and worked out of them. Also was impressed with the defensive play of Palacios. Seemed smooth charging the ball with strong accurate throws to first. Also great to see from the box score that Javier had another night with a hit, run scored and 2 rbi. Great seeing him having some success!
    2 points
  25. I like your thinking, but, with Dobnak starting and not much in reserve out of the bullpen------I wouldnt get my hopes up.
    2 points
  26. I really liked this short essay. Yes we can say it is one of the first signs of throwing up our arms and admitting mistakes. But we have also had Tzu-Wei Lin DFA'd April 29 and everyone said - who cares, April 29 we also DFA'd Mr Riddle and got a league wide yawn again. May 7 we had a DFA for Brandon Waddell now with the one team worst than us - Baltimore. Derek Law was DFA'd May 18 and now he is a star in St Paul - leave him there. He was outrighted there May 20. Dakota Chalmers DFA May 29, a minor leaguer we could not develop. June 5 Minaya DFA and once again, no one cares. We have a lot of chaff. We need quality.
    2 points
  27. Eris

    Catching Conundrum

    There was time many years ago when the Twins thought they had expendable catching depth as well. We should revisit the Wilson Ramos trade before we discuss trading another catcher. Keeping Mitch Garver as a 1B / catcher / DH is the best option. (This was mentioned by @stringer bellHe is also under team control for 3 more seasons.
    2 points
  28. He doesn't. He and his agent have educated guesses. But it's still a year and a half out before they can "know". You've seen those hurricane cone maps? It's kind of like that, except probably with even more variance, and without a certainty of "weakening" like a storm will do as its geographic track plays out. We're at Wednesday AM right now. We're trying to pick a price that shuts the door on him finding out where the Monday AM location will be. Some players might accept the conservative offer, to reduce all the risk. Other players are said to "bet on themselves", and you will have to offer pretty close to the maximum in that cone of probabilities, to shut that door for them. 5 years for $80M is $16M a year. That is Kimbrel/Chapman territory - top relievers, but starters get more. Money like Bauer and Cole got may not be achievable. But I'm thinking $20M for 7 years is what's needed to get him to say, "OK, never mind about the Yankees and free agency." 1.5 years away, $140M will get his attention, $80M will not.
    2 points
  29. Isn't the comp to look at Zack Wheeler? Yes, Wheeler was a bit older, but from a career perspective there's a lot of similarities: very good pitchers, never great. Belief that there's still another level to unlock for them, similar ERA+. Wheeler got 5 for $115M. I'm sure Berrios is thinking "I;m younger than this guy, I'm better than this guy, I'm never hurt...I should get 5 for $125, minimum." Is he wrong? It's an interesting question. All it takes is one. I'd lock up Berrios on 5 for $85M in a heartbeat, and I think the Twins would too. I think he's said no. The number will have to be over $100M for him to even consider it, because I'm sure he can get that on the open market and he's shown he's more than willing to bet on himself. and it's paid off for him. We are not talking AAV of $15-17M for Berrios on an extension. We're talking $20-25M if we actually want to sign him.
    2 points
  30. This is exactly why the "trade Berrios now" talk makes no sense. Trade for whom? And how do you fill the hole he leaves? Unless the ball club has decided to rebuild from the ground up, or if Berrios and his agent will settle for nothing less than the greatest amount they can obtain on the market, this is the correct approach. Smart management doesn't deal away personnel without knowing whom they will plug in as a replacement. Even if he is only ever a number 2 or 3 arm, having Berrios spend his most productive (or even all) years with the Twins is likely to benefit the club. Everyone they have on the farm is at least a season away from being as good as he is now, and dealing for someone as good or better is always fraught with peril. Dance with them that brung ya - and pay 'em, too.
    2 points
  31. Look, Maeda is NOT himself right now. He may or may not be the pitcher we saw in 2020. But career numbers and his ST performance and injury would tell you he's going to rebound. Berrios has been a rock, despite some ups and downs. For the 100th time, he's still 27yo plus and is a 2 time All Star. Again, for the 100th time, he and the Twins have changed his work out routine to allow for a full season of endurance and performance. And we haven't seen the results yet after the weird season that 2020 was. He may or may not ever achieve the ACE status that so many wish for. Me included. But despite some very good prospects rising, you can't ignore what you already have. If the Twins don't give him a 4 or 5yr deal for something close to $18-20 per they are being stupid. Someone else will.
    2 points
  32. If he will do do it for 5/80 I am on board especially given what they got out of Happ and Shoemaker for 10m this year. He is young durable and with slight improvement a potential All-Star type player or just under for the next four years. He takes good care of his body and takes the ball every 5th day. Why not do what you can to keep him especially with good pitching in short supply. With Maeda messed up he might be the one decent pitcher we can rely on next year and hopefully once the other guys come up we can fill out that rotation with more home grown guys. Unless the ask is absolutely unreasonable they should extend him IMO.
    2 points
  33. Agree 100%! The 1964 Twins were a big disappointment. Fortunately Calvin didn’t panic and unload his top players- we kept Killebrew, Allison, Olivia, Kaat. In 65 they came back with 102 wins and a World Series appearance. We need to have some faith that our still young stars can produce again and pay them what they are worth. NEVER let good pitching get away. Pay Berrios what he can command on the open market. We can’t assume prospects will produce at the ML level- we’ve had plenty of our future all-star prospects bomb and disappear. A bird in the hand……,,,,
    2 points
  34. DocBauer

    Catching Conundrum

    I like your post but am going to slightly disagree. I've read, heard and seen in regard to AK at 1B. I keep hearing he could potentially be a Gold Glover at 1B and carry on a great tradition of outstanding Twins 1B. And there's nothing wrong with that! I just think he's undersold as an OF. I've seen nothing negative to tell me be can't be a solid corner OF. And right now, I just don't want to pigeon hole him at 1B exclusively. What's wrong with letting him continue to play both and we'll see what the future brings? I believe in roster flexibility.
    2 points
  35. Mike Sixel

    Catching Conundrum

    Not interested in dealing Garver, not even a little. You'd have to overwhelm me to do that. But yes, Jeffers could / should be number 1, with Garver at first / DH / C....I don't care if Astudillo is on the team one way or the other. The only complication is if they feel Kiriloff is the 1B in the future, and not an OF......
    2 points
  36. Nice headline! I didn't see that coming.....
    1 point
  37. One thing to consider is that Kepler is a better defensive outfielder at this time.
    1 point
  38. mound logos are the tackiest thing and need to go away immediately
    1 point
  39. Comparing the White Sox history to the Twins situation makes no sense: The White Sox traded Chris Sale before the 2017 season, when he was probably the most dominant SP in the American League. The White Sox received three players. Two of them were monster prospects. Moncada was ranked #1 and Kopech was ranked #16 by FanGraphs heading into 2017. The Sox also traded Adam Eaton to Washington that same offseason. He had just had a career year capping off three very good consecutive seasons. The Nats overpaid. Giolito was ranked #19 and Reynaldo Lopez was ranked #28 by FanGraphs . That's four players ranked as top 30 prospects from two offseason trades. That will "jump start" - the original comment that caused me to respond - a team. Do you think Berrios will bring back either of those hauls? A TD writer just wrote that he didn't think Berrios would be worth a top 100 player in return (I'm more optimistic). Yes, Berrios could get hurt. But until now, he's been very durable. The prospects the Twins might get for him could wash out or get hurt too. That's baseball. If Berrios wants to wait for free agency, they should probably trade him. But don't expect the return to bring the results that came to Chicago from their trades.
    1 point
  40. We have a very good core of players, but need to make drastic changes to avoid being one of the 5 worst teams in baseball? I posit that if you have a very good core of players, you will not be a 100 loss team, and if you are a 100 loss team, you don't have a very good core of players.
    1 point
  41. I am delighted with this essay. You really hit this topic at the right time, but for Berrios agent it is the right time too. Berrios has been steady for years, he has been good enough that we have wasted a lot of time debating if he is or will be an ace. He is just a plain good pitcher. We have had a lot of good but not necessarily Ace staff leaders - Radtke, Viola, Perry, Kaat, Grant, Goltz and they have led the staff and team well. I went to Fangraphs to see where Berrios ranks with all the other pitchers in MLB and he is 30th in FIP, and K/9 but does not make the top 30 except in wins (which most except me do not count) where he is 7th. The reason that I do count wins is that it means he held the opposition down so that the last place team could score enough to win and he pitched long enough that the mediocre BP did not have a chance to blow the win. And somehow he kept Captain Hook Baldelli from yanking him from the mound. What I do not know is if this team and his agent can have the conversation that is needed to get this done. Take Berrios out of our rotation and we would still be in last place - no player (not even Mike Trout) can make a team great by themselves, But pitching is still the most valuable asset to any team and this teams choices from FA market have stunk and I agree with Ted - prospects and a free agent are not going to let us climb back up. Except for pitching I think we have the makings of another good run, but pitching is still the key and the dream of minor leaguers has to be tempered. I remember thinking Gonsalves was going to be a long term fixture in our rotation after reading all the prospect reports on TD. I though Griffen Jax would come up and show that he was ready (better than Bailey I thought based on what I read). I thought we had found a real diamond in the rough with Dobnak, that Thorpe might have turned it around, but they and Smeltzer show that the transition is not as easy as we all hope. The prospects we would get in return for Berrios would have the same difficulties. Prospects - Colina, Burdi, Graterol (now a Dodger) that throw so hard also find the IL to be their team. Now I dream of Canterino, Balazovic, Duran, Winder, Bailey and Berrios and hope that all the things I have read are accurate. But most important is that we keep what we have and the team may have waited too long to pursue this extension but I hope not.
    1 point
  42. I agree ! great comments and discussion. I think 6/$150 is a little high. But it depends on how close they think Balazovic, Duran and Canterino are and what they could get in a return trade. I think they need to keep him and build around him.
    1 point
  43. Did the trades the White Sox made for their starting players a few years ago set the franchise further back? Did trading Knoblauch set the Twins back?
    1 point
  44. DocBauer

    Catching Conundrum

    You stoll my thunder Stringer! LOL I have literally been thinking about the EXACT same topic a lot recently but hadn't sat down to post. I think...word for word...you just about nailed every thing I've been thinking about. I will say I disagree on the catching time share. I think we have too SSS this season to say it can't or wouldn't work. Remember, Jeffers is still a rookie and has stated recently he wasn't feeling great at the plate and found his stroke, with a couple small adjustments made, when he was over in St Paul. And let's not forget Garver was coming off a poor and injury plagued 2020 to begin the year and just seemed out of whack. Further, Garver did just fine when file-sharing with Castro previously. So I think there is merit to the time-share idea, I just don't think we need to use it the way originally planned. That all being said, I think Garver should be the backup catcher and see most of his time at 1B and DH come 2022. And understand, I think Garver is just fine behind the dish. I have little problem with him as a catcher. I'm not looking to "demote" him, simply looking at logical roster construction for the future and the best use of talent. The fact that Garver has had a couple concussions and then had this recent, awful injury just fuels my idea of transitioning him. But, of course, this is a non-starter arguement if we didn't have the young, talented and promising Jeffers on hand. *Note: I am not including Sano in this discussion for a variety of reasons not the least of which being that he's not really part of Stringer's original OP intent. Whether he's traded or kept for the duration of this season, I think it's a very safe opinion that Cruz will not be back in 2022 for a variety of sound and reasonable reasons. And with Larnach and Kirilloff and Garver, as we are discussing, I'm really not sure the 2022 Twins should be necessarily entertaining the idea of adding a replacement. Get Garver in the lineup daily as a DH/1B and backup catcher. Let the DH spot be fluid with the talent on hand, even if Garver might get a majority of the time there. Who ever said the DH had to be ONE GUY? I think back to the days....NOT playing "old man back in my day" game...where TK had Bush and Larkin as primary DH's but each played in the field and regulars also got half days off by being a DH here and there. Again, if you have good talent on hand and a deep and versatile roster, why do you have to have just one guy fill that spot? Worried about having to lose your DH in a game if you make moves? Nope. Because you might still have Astudillo as the last man on the bench. Or, you may just keep Rortvedt as your true #2 while still having Garver available. Depending on roster construction, while it may sound crazy, there is a chance you could have 4 guys on the roster who could catch. And I know that's not a popular idea, but just think about SOMEONE being the SS, Astudillo is on the bench, Garver has more or less taken Cruz's spot and you keep Rortvedt as a true #2. (Don't hate, I'm just spitballing here). Rortvedt could also be at St Paul as he's still so young and may be better served playing daily there to begin 2022. Barring trades we can't even begin to speculate on at this point, I believe in keeping proven talent that is cost controlled. I just wouldn't trade Garver unless blown away. Transition him to DH/1B and backup catcher. Let Jeffers be the primary. Right now, we have tremendous depth at catcher, 1B and OF. While we have questions about a true SS for 2022, we have some depth and versatility there as well, especially if Gordon continues to be healthy and continues to develop. (Someone PLEASE get him on a weight program and feed him some extra protein that works within the framework of his new diet)! The pitching is a different arguement for another day. And hitting coaches and approach is also a different arguement for another day. But we know and have seen what a healthy Garver can do. Transition him, keep him, and let him rip.
    1 point
  45. From everything I have seen and read, I am much higher on Balazovic, than I am on Duran. Duran has the velo but cannot control it. Balazovic seems much more of a pitcher that will get outs, where Duran is a thrower and yet to learn how to pitch.
    1 point
  46. Shoemaker is the worst statistically. But he wasn’t signed to be a mid rotation starter like Happ, or a high leverage late inning arm like Colomé. My vote is Colomé. He was supposed to be the replacement for Trevor May. We paid him $5 million and he’s been a mop up guy since the middle of May. Total disaster.
    1 point
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